Madeleine McCann

limnam · 23-03-2019 05:50PM

Phoebas wrote: »

I didn't say it was untrue. I said it was dishonest.

Please read posts more carefully.

How is stating facts dishonest?

gozunda · 23-03-2019 05:52PM

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limnam wrote: »

Your friends that you count on at the most critical time of your life. All make a balls of recording events as they unfolded.
Who are then told by Gerry to stop helping the police.
With friends like this, who needs enemies.
They either played a part in fcking up the whole time line.
Or they did it on purpose.

Tbh if the whole sorry story wasn't so desperately sad - I would liken the antics of those individuals as a group- to the Keystone Cops.

I think it was the Dispatches programme or similar where Jane Tanner and Gerry McCann practically got into a fight over who had seen what and as to what side of the road they were on when during the filming of the reconstruction of Jane's alleged 'Tannerman' sighting.

You couldn't make it up. Still very sad for the child that hasn't been found to this day

SusieBlue · 23-03-2019 05:58PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

There's also a lot fingers in ears going la la la la la la to anything brought up that doesn't suit their line.

Having a hard line on any side with little or no evidence is as nonsensical as people who talk about alien abductions and the like.

There's plenty of moronic behavior on both sides of the coin.

You thanked a post last night stating the McCanns were undoubtedly 100% guilty.
Quite a hard line stance to take if you ask me.

Phoebas · 23-03-2019 06:00PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

How is stating facts dishonest?

Stop feigning ignorance.

You were linking the McCanns to a paedophile when you know they had no knowledge of this whatsoever.

Lady Poepoe · 23-03-2019 06:04PM

I don't understand why the dogs signalling is completely thrown out by some here.
The two dogs barks at the same points where the sofa was. Also the car key was moved so they could make sure it was positive bark from dogs.
Madeleine body could have been hidden under the sofa then moved again into the parents room then into the small garden to someother place. They could easy have put her into a bag.
All outcomes of this case are so grim. I would hate if someone did come into that flat. It would be unbearable to think of her pain.

However if she was abducted wouldn't someone have to open that gate and go through patio doors. No DNA or marks left. No Real sightings, only kates print was only one on glass from them all staying there. Such a frustrating case.

I think that apartment was cleaned down before police came.

People on here are shutting down possible theories all for the honor of the parents?? Parents can and do terrible things to their children. All while acting the victim themselves.
I don't think Gerry killed her. Just Kate and David Payne are the ones with the very different statements. maybe Gerry was told an accident happened.

For example she said she was in a towel when David called but he said she was fully dressed. Wouldn't you remember you frineds wife in a towel?! The whole group have lied about the timings.
Why did they let their friend write on the back of Madeleines activity page. If my child went missing I wouldn't let anyone touch and damage her things. Maybe I'm too sentimental
I'm 60/40 on this case. I'm thinking Kate did something. Then I read Madeleine was once went out of flat by herself to play.
However no body so can't rule out anything

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:08PM

Phoebas wrote: »

Stop feigning ignorance.

You were linking the McCanns to a paedophile when you know they had no knowledge of this whatsoever.

I don't know that.

You don't know that.

What we know is she was drinking brandy with a pedophile whilelaughing and joking the dogs wouldn't be able to to be used in court

Anything else is speculation and assumptions.

Which I'm sure you don't like so lets not make any

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:10PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

You thanked a post last night stating the McCanns were undoubtedly 100% guilty.
Quite a hard line stance to take if you ask me.

I had no idea you had such an interest in what I like and don't like.

Considering I don't think they're 100% guilty I imagine there was something else about the post I liked.

Which I've stated numerous times.

Plumbthedepths · 23-03-2019 06:10PM

Lady Poepoe wrote:

I don't understand why the dogs signalling is completely thrown out by some here. The two dogs barks at the same points where the sofa was. Also the car key was moved so they could make sure it was positive bark from dogs. Madeleine body could have been hidden under the sofa then moved again into the parents room then into the small garden to someother place. They could easy have put her into a bag. All outcomes of this case are so grim. I would hate if someone did come into that flat. It would be unbearable to think of her pain.

Anything that questions the abduction theory is dismissed out of hand so much so by some that they twist themselves into knots in the process making claims that are glaringly false.

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:12PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Anything that questions the abduction theory is dismissed out of hand so much so by some that they twist themselves into knots in the process making claims that are glaringly false.

People have stated there line will not be changed regardless.

You'd wonder why they continue to keep track of it if there mind is made up.

SusieBlue · 23-03-2019 06:14PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

I had no idea you had such an interest in what I like and don't like.

Considering I don't think they're 100% guilty I imagine there was something else about the post I liked.

Which I've stated numerous times.

You don’t think they’re 100% guilty yet thank posts that state the same, and only point out the ‘lack of evidence’ when anyone leans towards the abduction theory.

You are nowhere to be seen when anyone says it was the parents who did it, in fact you also thank those posts.
You are being dishonest about your motives here, making anyone who believes the abduction theory out to be narrow minded hardliners while yourself maintaining a hardline stance on the matter.
It’s very hypocritical.

Plumbthedepths · 23-03-2019 06:14PM

limnam wrote:

People have stated there line will not be changed regardless.

That in itself is a bizarre comment to make. Closed mind, why join a discussion forum with that mindset? Well I can guess but I won't.

gozunda · 23-03-2019 06:14PM

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Phoebas wrote: »

Stop feigning ignorance.You were linking the McCanns to a paedophile when you know they had no knowledge of this whatsoever.

I disagree completely. That is not even close to what was posted. But you already know that.

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:17PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

You don’t think they’re 100% guilty yet thank posts that state the same, and only point out the ‘lack of evidence’ when anyone leans towards the abduction theory.

You are nowhere to be seen when anyone says it was the parents who did it, in fact you also thank those posts.
You are being dishonest about your motives here, making anyone who believes the abduction theory out to be narrow minded hardliners while yourself maintaining a hardline stance on the matter.
It’s very hypocritical.

I've explained this very clearly yesterday why.

Feel free to read back over them I'm not interested in getting in a personal tit for tat with you.

Plumbthedepths · 23-03-2019 06:18PM

SusieBlue wrote:

You donâ€™t think theyâ€™re 100% guilty yet thank posts that state the same, and only point out the â€˜lack of evidenceâ€™ when anyone leans towards the abduction theory.

You have thanked the posts of two posters who called another poster a troll. Funnily the 'troll' leans towards the abduction theory but prehaps not as stridently as some would like. This however is off topic and how threads get closed.

gozunda · 23-03-2019 06:22PM

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SusieBlue wrote: »

You thanked a post last night stating the McCanns were undoubtedly 100% guilty.
Quite a hard line stance to take if you ask me.

Someone thanked somebody?? :eek: Is the thought police a thing? I often thank posts which I may not necessarily agree with because they show well worked out logic or say something in a way I wouldn't have thought of etc. I believe I may have even thanked one of your posts susie *(can't rem why though) and I'd disagree with about 98% of them tbh.

Christ on a bike ....

dark crystal · 23-03-2019 06:23PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

gozunda wrote: »

I disagree completely. That is not even close to what was posted. But you already know that.

You stated before that they were drinking brandy with a known paedophile did you not?

Why do you keep posting the same statement over and over again if not in a desperate attempt to portray the McCanns as happily consorting with a paedophile when the fact of the matter is they had no idea what he was at the time?

The feigning innocence act is even less convincing than the one you accuse the McCanns of!

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:24PM

gozunda wrote: »

Thanked??? :eek: Is the thought police a thing? I often thank posts which I may not necessarily agree with because they show well worked out logic or say something in a way I wouldn't have thought of etc.

Christ on a bike ....

Deflecting tactics.

Nothing else.

Want to talk about Kate making jokes about the dogs with the pedophile?

No! lets talk about what posts you thanked.

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:24PM

dark crystal wrote: »

You stated before that they were drinking brandy with a known paedophile did you not?

Why do you keep posting the same statement over and over again if not in a desperate attempt to portray the McCanns as happily consorting with a paedophile when the fact of the matter is they had no idea what he was at the time?

The feigning innocence act is even less convincing than the one you accuse the McCanns of!

Your quoting the wrong person.

Plumbthedepths · 23-03-2019 06:25PM

dark crystal wrote:

Why do you keep posting the same statement over and over again if not in a desperate attempt to portray the McCanns as happily consorting with a paedophile when the fact of the matter is they had no idea what he was at the time?

Genuine question, how are you so certain?

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:25PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Genuine question, how are you so certain?

They've read the files and TIMELINE!

dark crystal · 23-03-2019 06:27PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

Your quoting the wrong person.

Apologies, I should have quoted linman's comment. You merely defended him.

dark crystal · 23-03-2019 06:28PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Genuine question, how are you so certain?

Why would Freud disclose to them he was a paedophile?

MonkieSocks · 23-03-2019 06:28PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

tibruit wrote: »

If Madeleine was actually dead and a plan was already in place to dispose of the body at this time, then all he had to do was place her in his tennis bag and put the bag in one of the large communal green bins. There was one nearby.

The Bag in the top left photo

Checked by Martin Grimes Dogs...no signal given.

No Blood or bodily fluids found by forensic people

There is a list of the luggage they brought with them and photos on this site.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/sitemap.htm

2 Luggage Bags checked in Airport England.

3 carry on bags seen in video of them where Madeline tripped getting on the plane.

.

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:29PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Why would Freud disclose to them he was a paedophile?

Why would Gerry lie about using a key?

Who knows.

What we know is we don't know if they knew.

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:31PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Apologies, I should have quoted linman's comment. You merely defended him.

Your still quoting the wrong person

gozunda · 23-03-2019 06:32PM

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dark crystal wrote: »

You stated before that they were drinking brandy with a known paedophile did you not?
Why do you keep posting the same statement over and over again if not in a desperate attempt to portray the McCanns as happily consorting with a paedophile when the fact of the matter is they had no idea what he was at the time?
The feigning innocence act is even less convincing than the one you accuse the McCanns of!

And it remains that is a fact. He is a known paedophile or is that uncomfortable reading? As others pointed we have no idea what anyone knew but it remains a salient fact that it is now known. Or should we not speak the truth because it may make some uncomfortable :mad:

Btw exactly what is being repeating over and over? More exaggerating and hyperbole thrown at anyone who doesn't kowtow to the official sanctioned version of events. The attempted bullying here is risible tbh. However the exaggerated offence fools no one tbh.

Plumbthedepths · 23-03-2019 06:33PM

dark crystal wrote:

Why would Freud disclose to them he was a paedophile?

You have stated Kate didn't know he was a paedophile again why are you so certain? It's a straight question.

dark crystal · 23-03-2019 06:34PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

Why would Gerry lie about using a key?

Who knows.

What we know is we don't know if they knew.

For someone who values the truth so much, your posts tend to err on the side of conjecture, mistruths, rumour and supposition.

It's easy to sling mud though I guess, the hard part is making it stick to anything solid.

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:34PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You have stated Kate didn't know he was a paedophile again why are you so certain? It's a straight question.

They don't know

They're making assumptions.

They've also given out about others making them. So it seems odd.

limnam · 23-03-2019 06:36PM

dark crystal wrote: »

For someone who values the truth so much, your posts tend to err on the side of conjecture, mistruths, rumour and supposition.

It's easy to sling mud though I guess, the hard part is making it stick to anything solid.

It's a FACT he was a pedophile

FACT.

No mistruth, no rumour.

FACT.

It's a FACT she was drinking brandy with him making jokes about a dog brought into assit her that it wouldn't be able to be used in court

FACT.

please point out any rumour/mistruth in the above

Madeleine McCann

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