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School Bus set on Fire in Milan

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Lucky that no one was killed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    it is on the front page of bbc.com

    Yes in what is considered a '3rd visual level hierarcy position'. Not a headline, nor sub-headline news position.

    As others mentioned they even hinted at implied justification for this fellows actions. But strangely, at the same time, forgot to mention he (the school bus driver), held both i) prior drunk driving, and ii) sexual assult (of a minor) convictions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Glad the children escaped. Seen an article saying the hijacker kept saying 'none of you are gonna survive today'

    Lets stand up to these people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I'm sure he's really convinced the Italian government to rethink their migration policy. Great fucking thinking Einstein.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    At first I thought it was quite strange that this incident was reported in such a muted fashion, as it was potentially so terrible. But upon reflection I wonder if it was a concerted decision not to give this event too much media exposure to avoid the possibility of copycat actions, or putting ideas in people's heads. This would be a very soft target for terrorists, with bus loads of children daily driving here and there, and so on. Maybe that is the reason it is so down-played. Which would be a good reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    He's obviously just mentally ill.
    Only white males can be racist.
    He's the victim here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    BBFAN wrote: »
    The article says the driver was known to be angry about Italy's migrant policy??

    Why the hell was he driving a school bus so???

    It's all very well people saying they knew these things after the fact, why didn't they do anything beforehand?


    He also has a record of past drunk driving and sexual assault. I wonder how a man with his history can have the licence to drive a bus, let alone a schoolbus!
    A local newspaper reads that he was angry at the Italian government who dosn't accept migrants, while migrants die at sea every day.
    So it's clearly our fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Lucky escape for the kids, to put it mildly.

    Hope the creature attempting to massacre them gets life in prison at the very least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    Hope the creature attempting to massacre them gets life in prison at the very least


    I doubt it.
    Over here sentences are often mild, and this... poor creature... will receive a good treatment, because he was left behind by our evil western society. He's a victim of our indifference and greed.

    I think 7 to 10 years in prison is top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Roh god, unpopular opinion alert!
    The drownings in the Med, which are abhorrent, were caused by a very well established people trafficking network, people making huge sums of money in North Africa to push these unfortunates out to sea on dinghies. Slave markets. Preying on poor people's aspirations for economic success.
    The traffickers were aided and abetted by bleeding heart NGOs who moored in their Saviour Ships off the Libyan coastline and picked up these people in their dinghies when they were barely out to sea and instead of returning them to Africa, brought them across the 300 miles ot the Italian coastline.
    It was absolutely ridiculous. Italy was utterly overwhelmed. Hundreds of thousands landed on their shores and had to be processed, up to 70% of all refugees to Europe. They often then disappeared, going northwards. Feck, the Italians often put them on trains to get them out of their countries - and who would blame them, no country could sustain such an influx.
    So, a democratically-elected government decided to close the ports. Now they are the monsters supposedly - well on the BBC and Irish Times, they are portrayed as some sort of xenophobic monsters. And yet it is the closure of the ports that has saved people. It cut off the end of the migrant pipeline and the traffickers cannot profit now as much from human misery. One tenth of the number drowned in the seas since the ports closed, since the Saviour Ships had to give up their missions.


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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Jesus. :( Thank god none of the kids were hurt. My immediate instinct would be to string that bastard up from the nearest lamppost. :mad:

    304.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda



    Ah the old dodge that only 'white' (that's presuming Wibbs is so btw!) people are racist line if they do anything or make a comment about anything about any one of a different colour. We get you ;)

    There's a bunch of other things why white people are supposedly "so annoying" (this is also not racist btw!)
    taking offence too easily, being too literal about everything, overarticulating when angry, being humourless and pedantic, talking all the way through dinner, priding themselves on knowing obscure facts, being vegan, needlessly using Latin phrases, being condescending and improperly using slang terms.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/can-you-be-racist-against-white-people-1.3591110

    Ipso facto that covers practically everyone on Boards including Wibbs

    Better shut the place down so ... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Zorya wrote: »
    Roh god, unpopular opinion alert!
    The drownings in the Med, which are abhorrent, were caused by a very well established people trafficking network, people making huge sums of money in North Africa to push these unfortunates out to sea on dinghies. Slave markets. Preying on poor people's aspirations for economic success.
    The traffickers were aided and abetted by bleeding heart NGOs who moored in their Saviour Ships off the Libyan coastline and picked up these people in their dinghies when they were barely out to sea and instead of returning them to Africa, brought them across the 300 miles ot the Italian coastline.
    It was absolutely ridiculous. Italy was utterly overwhelmed. Hundreds of thousands landed on their shores and had to be processed, up to 70% of all refugees to Europe. They often then disappeared, going northwards. Feck, the Italians often put them on trains to get them out of their countries - and who would blame them, no country could sustain such an influx.
    So, a democratically-elected government decided to close the ports. Now they are the monsters supposedly - well on the BBC and Irish Times, they are portrayed as some sort of xenophobic monsters. And yet it is the closure of the ports that has saved people. It cut off the end of the migrant pipeline and the traffickers cannot profit now as much from human misery. One tenth of the number drowned in the seas since the ports closed, since the Saviour Ships had to give up their missions.

    Spot on


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    gozunda wrote: »
    Theres a bunch of other things why white people are supposedly "so annoying" (this is not racist btw!)
    While Black Americans had no choice in the matter, if White people and their culture is so silly, why are half the world fighting to get into White nations and cultures and feck all Whites are fighting to get into non White nations and cultures? Answers on a postcard to the usual address.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Spot on
    Yup, it's how Australia dealt with their flow of illegal immigrants coming by sea. Hundreds were being drowned every year, until the Australian government stopped them making landfall on the country and put them in holding camps on islands to process them. Drownings all but stopped overnight.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Zorya wrote: »
    Roh god, unpopular opinion alert!
    The drownings in the Med, which are abhorrent, were caused by a very well established people trafficking network, people making huge sums of money in North Africa to push these unfortunates out to sea on dinghies. Slave markets. Preying on poor people's aspirations for economic success.
    The traffickers were aided and abetted by bleeding heart NGOs who moored in their Saviour Ships off the Libyan coastline and picked up these people in their dinghies when they were barely out to sea and instead of returning them to Africa, brought them across the 300 miles ot the Italian coastline.
    It was absolutely ridiculous. Italy was utterly overwhelmed. Hundreds of thousands landed on their shores and had to be processed, up to 70% of all refugees to Europe. They often then disappeared, going northwards. Feck, the Italians often put them on trains to get them out of their countries - and who would blame them, no country could sustain such an influx.
    So, a democratically-elected government decided to close the ports. Now they are the monsters supposedly - well on the BBC and Irish Times, they are portrayed as some sort of xenophobic monsters. And yet it is the closure of the ports that has saved people. It cut off the end of the migrant pipeline and the traffickers cannot profit now as much from human misery. One tenth of the number drowned in the seas since the ports closed, since the Saviour Ships had to give up their missions.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    I wonder will Pat Kenny or Sean O Rourke have it on their show this morning ?
    Probably not - there will be more Trump hissy fitting and blaming all white people for the NZ attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Standout headline on the Irish Examiner's viewpoint this morning:
    We must tackle global threat of white terror

    Yep, all us whities are responsible for all the world's ills.

    The author could have easily used this headline:
    We must tackle global threat of white extremist terror

    But nagh, white guilt must prevail on media outlets, as it reinforces the liberal/left push for uncontrolled economic migration to Western countries.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Standout headline on the Irish Examiner's viewpoint this morning:
    We must tackle global threat of white terror

    Yep, all us whities are responsible for all the world's ills.

    The author could have easily used this headline:
    We must tackle global threat of white extremist terror

    But nagh, white guilt must prevail on media outlets, as it reinforces the liberal/left push for uncontrolled economic migration to Western countries.
    Its part of the luciferian globalist cabal conspiracy is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Another cultural diversity incident.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The road to hell is paved with good intentions

    They were doing well off of it, good Intentions aside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Danzy wrote: »
    Another cultural diversity incident.

    +1 Multiculturism ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Danzy wrote: »
    They were doing well off of it, good Intentions aside.

    well certainly. it is in the interest of all those draw a wage from the charity sector that people continue to suffer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    He's obviously just mentally ill.
    Only white males can be racist.
    He's the victim here.

    If that is from the BBC article you should use quotes.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Currently the BBC news site have it as a '3rd rate, sideline news story', despite it being their 2nd most read news story.
    Oh, and they forgot to mention he (the school bus driver), has prior precedents for both drunk driving and sexual abuse, of a minor.

    Find it amazing that they allowed a vile bastard to drive a bus full of kids...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    This won't gain traction as a news story this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Yeah the mainstream media only tell us the news that they want us to know to try portray a certain narrative to us. It's usually best to get your news from independent media outlets and trying to read a story from multiple sources if that's possible.

    Yep the OP posted a bbc story about it and I read this on the guardian where it was on the front page.

    Quit whinging about the main stream media.


    If the guy had a previous for abuse of a minor how did he get a job as a bus driver? Does Italy not do checks on this stuff?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    Grayson wrote: »
    Yep the OP posted a bbc story about it and I read this on the guardian where it was on the front page.

    Quit whinging about the main stream media.


    If the guy had a previous for abuse of a minor how did he get a job as a bus driver? Does Italy not do checks on this stuff?

    They probably did but it would have been racist to not allow him the job based on them. Your probably thinking what a retard post ive made yet look at what happened in England with the Muslims paedos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Grayson wrote: »
    Quit whinging about the main stream media.
    dont.

    the main stream media is an extremely infulential entity and needs to be questioned and scrutinised continuously.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Arrest and/or deport him, and ensure he has a long prison sentence plus a lot of mental health checks. Absolutely disgusting carry on, on any bus... but one full of kids!? Appalling isn't even the word.


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