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School Bus set on Fire in Milan

  • 20-03-2019 5:18pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭


    With children in it.

    What the actual feck?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47642298
    The driver had been taking two classes of teenagers and their adult escort from a school in Vailati di Crema to a gym but took a different route on a provincial highway apparently heading for Milan's Linate airport, local reports said.

    The ordeal then unfolded over the next 40 minutes.

    Witnesses said that when he began addressing the passengers with a knife, a boy phoned a parent, who alerted the police.

    It took some time before police tried to intercept the bus. The vehicle rammed into police cars before slowing down.

    Italian reports said the driver had sprinkled petrol around the bus but police were able to smash the rear windows and let the passengers off before it burst into flames.

    Milan prosecutors said they were investigating all possible motives including terrorism.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,059 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like serious tragedy was averted!

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Looks like serious tragedy was averted!

    Yeah, I am watching some videos of it, the guy went nuts, ramming police cars, and then scattering petrol all inside bus. One child had texted parents that he was going mad and that's how the police got there in time.
    Madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,059 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Zorya wrote: »
    Yeah, I am watching some videos of it, the guy went nuts, ramming police cars, and then scattering petrol all inside bus. One child had texted parents that he was going mad and that's how the police got there in time.
    Madness.

    Potential Speed 3 successor?


    Just glad no one was seriously hurt or killed.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    A man hijacked a school bus with 51 students aboard before setting the vehicle ablaze in an apparent protest over Italy's migration policy, police said.

    Police spokesman Marco Palmieri said the driver — a Senegalese, 47, with Italian citizenship — told officers after he was arrested: “Stop the deaths at sea, I'll carry out a massacre."

    One of the children told reporters at the scene the driver had threatened to pour petrol on them and set them alight. One of them managed to call the police who rushed to the scene and were able to rescue the children.

    A girl interviewed by Ansa said the man kept repeating that "people in Africa are dying and that it was the fault of Di Maio and Salvini".

    https://www.euronews.com/2019/03/20/man-hijacks-italy-school-bus-and-sets-it-ablaze-in-migration-protest

    What the feck is going here if you're unhappy about something this is not the right way to go about it. This situation could have been a lot worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Amazing mental gymnastics "logic" by a twisted evil ****er.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    #gratitude


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Sinus pain


    How lucky were they that boy text his mother!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Sinus pain


    Double post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    How this is not being commented and shared l immagine if it was the other way around they would talk about it for a week.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Currently the BBC news site have it as a '3rd rate, sideline news story', despite it being their 2nd most read news story.
    Oh, and they forgot to mention he (the school bus driver), has prior precedents for both drunk driving and sexual abuse, of a minor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    You could be damn sure that if Salvini was in government back in 2004 this man would not be in Italy let alone a citizen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Currently the BBC news site have it as a '3rd rate, sideline news story', despite it being their 2nd most read news story.
    Oh, and they forgot to mention he (the school bus driver), has prior precedents for both drunk driving and sexual abuse, of a minor.

    Yeah the mainstream media only tell us the news that they want us to know to try portray a certain narrative to us. It's usually best to get your news from independent media outlets and trying to read a story from multiple sources if that's possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Das Reich wrote: »
    How this is not being commented and shared l immagine if ut was the other way around they would talk about it for a week.

    Because it doesn't fit the narrative that the majority of the mainstream media is pushing so it's ignored by most of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    You could be damn sure that if Salvini was in government back in 2004 this man would not be in Italy let alone a citizen.

    Sorry to say that this problem is only going to get worse in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,059 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Sinus pain wrote: »
    How lucky were they that boy text his mother!

    Yeah, could have turned out much worse.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,105 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    What the hell is happening with the world? :( Its like a rollercoaster ride to oblivion and I just wanna get off now.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Jesus. :( Thank god none of the kids were hurt. My immediate instinct would be to string that bastard up from the nearest lamppost. :mad:

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Jesus. :( Thank god none of the kids were hurt. My immediate instinct would be to string that bastard up from the nearest lamppost. :mad:

    But But But Human Rights and Amnesty International.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭yosser hughes




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    The article says the driver was known to be angry about Italy's migrant policy??

    Why the hell was he driving a school bus so???

    It's all very well people saying they knew these things after the fact, why didn't they do anything beforehand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Currently the BBC news site have it as a '3rd rate, sideline news story', despite it being their 2nd most read news story.
    Oh, and they forgot to mention he (the school bus driver), has prior precedents for both drunk driving and sexual abuse, of a minor.

    It's the 3rd story listed on their news homepage after Brexit and hundreds dead in Mozambique, considering nobody was seriously injured in this attack I think that is an appropriate level of prominence, even bordering on giving it too much.

    The prominence given to Brexit and their bickering idiot politicians every bloody day for the last 2 years on the other hand...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    It's the 3rd story listed on their news homepage after Brexit and hundreds dead in Mozambique, considering nobody was seriously injured in this attack I think that is an appropriate level of prominence, even bordering on giving it too much.

    The prominence given to Brexit and their bickering idiot politicians every bloody day for the last 2 years on the other hand...

    8hrs later and https://www.bbc.co.uk/news shows it listed on the sidelines (third level of visual hierarchy), just below 'lotto win will change me' story.

    While at the same time being the 3rd most read newstory, it's the same place it was, when the 2nd most read earlier today at 2/3pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Had to go to work so couldn't follow up story but I see now at BBC link in OP that they added a last paragraph all about nasty right wing govt and their policies. Almost as if trying to justify why someone would do this. The guy tied up kids, took their phones, had petrol, said he had planned it and so on. I read it was one kid who opened a back door that let them out. How can the BBC tack on any hint of justification for what could have been a dreadful event. Very odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    Senegalese driver, angry about Italys migrant policy ....diversity is our strength.

    But..but sure Italy have always had problems with Italian bus drivers trying to burn 51 children to death whats the difference right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Wibbs wrote: »
    My immediate instinct would be to string that bastard up from the nearest lamppost. :mad:

    You sound like a Lega Nord kinda guy ! A bit too foreign probably, but your heart is in the right place.
    Sign up here : https://www.leganord.org/aderisci/iscriviti-tesseramento


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,639 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    8hrs later and https://www.bbc.co.uk/news shows it listed on the sidelines (third level of visual hierarchy), just below 'lotto win will change me' story.

    While at the same time being the 3rd most read newstory, it's the same place it was, when the 2nd most read earlier today at 2/3pm.

    it is on the front page of bbc.com


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 68,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    Shocking.....what the hell is wrong with people!!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    BBFAN wrote: »
    The article says the driver was known to be angry about Italy's migrant policy??

    Why the hell was he driving a school bus so???

    It's all very well people saying they knew these things after the fact, why didn't they do anything beforehand?

    Some of the articles mentioned he hijacked the bus which suggests he wasn't the person who was actually supposed to be driving it at least that's what it would lead you to believe.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You sound like a Lega Nord kinda guy ! A bit too foreign probably, but your heart is in the right place.
    Sign up here : https://www.leganord.org/aderisci/iscriviti-tesseramento
    Note I said "immediate instinct".

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,314 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Lucky that no one was killed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    it is on the front page of bbc.com

    Yes in what is considered a '3rd visual level hierarcy position'. Not a headline, nor sub-headline news position.

    As others mentioned they even hinted at implied justification for this fellows actions. But strangely, at the same time, forgot to mention he (the school bus driver), held both i) prior drunk driving, and ii) sexual assult (of a minor) convictions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Glad the children escaped. Seen an article saying the hijacker kept saying 'none of you are gonna survive today'

    Lets stand up to these people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I'm sure he's really convinced the Italian government to rethink their migration policy. Great fucking thinking Einstein.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    At first I thought it was quite strange that this incident was reported in such a muted fashion, as it was potentially so terrible. But upon reflection I wonder if it was a concerted decision not to give this event too much media exposure to avoid the possibility of copycat actions, or putting ideas in people's heads. This would be a very soft target for terrorists, with bus loads of children daily driving here and there, and so on. Maybe that is the reason it is so down-played. Which would be a good reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    He's obviously just mentally ill.
    Only white males can be racist.
    He's the victim here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    BBFAN wrote: »
    The article says the driver was known to be angry about Italy's migrant policy??

    Why the hell was he driving a school bus so???

    It's all very well people saying they knew these things after the fact, why didn't they do anything beforehand?


    He also has a record of past drunk driving and sexual assault. I wonder how a man with his history can have the licence to drive a bus, let alone a schoolbus!
    A local newspaper reads that he was angry at the Italian government who dosn't accept migrants, while migrants die at sea every day.
    So it's clearly our fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Lucky escape for the kids, to put it mildly.

    Hope the creature attempting to massacre them gets life in prison at the very least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    Hope the creature attempting to massacre them gets life in prison at the very least


    I doubt it.
    Over here sentences are often mild, and this... poor creature... will receive a good treatment, because he was left behind by our evil western society. He's a victim of our indifference and greed.

    I think 7 to 10 years in prison is top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Roh god, unpopular opinion alert!
    The drownings in the Med, which are abhorrent, were caused by a very well established people trafficking network, people making huge sums of money in North Africa to push these unfortunates out to sea on dinghies. Slave markets. Preying on poor people's aspirations for economic success.
    The traffickers were aided and abetted by bleeding heart NGOs who moored in their Saviour Ships off the Libyan coastline and picked up these people in their dinghies when they were barely out to sea and instead of returning them to Africa, brought them across the 300 miles ot the Italian coastline.
    It was absolutely ridiculous. Italy was utterly overwhelmed. Hundreds of thousands landed on their shores and had to be processed, up to 70% of all refugees to Europe. They often then disappeared, going northwards. Feck, the Italians often put them on trains to get them out of their countries - and who would blame them, no country could sustain such an influx.
    So, a democratically-elected government decided to close the ports. Now they are the monsters supposedly - well on the BBC and Irish Times, they are portrayed as some sort of xenophobic monsters. And yet it is the closure of the ports that has saved people. It cut off the end of the migrant pipeline and the traffickers cannot profit now as much from human misery. One tenth of the number drowned in the seas since the ports closed, since the Saviour Ships had to give up their missions.


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Jesus. :( Thank god none of the kids were hurt. My immediate instinct would be to string that bastard up from the nearest lamppost. :mad:

    304.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda



    Ah the old dodge that only 'white' (that's presuming Wibbs is so btw!) people are racist line if they do anything or make a comment about anything about any one of a different colour. We get you ;)

    There's a bunch of other things why white people are supposedly "so annoying" (this is also not racist btw!)
    taking offence too easily, being too literal about everything, overarticulating when angry, being humourless and pedantic, talking all the way through dinner, priding themselves on knowing obscure facts, being vegan, needlessly using Latin phrases, being condescending and improperly using slang terms.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/can-you-be-racist-against-white-people-1.3591110

    Ipso facto that covers practically everyone on Boards including Wibbs

    Better shut the place down so ... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Zorya wrote: »
    Roh god, unpopular opinion alert!
    The drownings in the Med, which are abhorrent, were caused by a very well established people trafficking network, people making huge sums of money in North Africa to push these unfortunates out to sea on dinghies. Slave markets. Preying on poor people's aspirations for economic success.
    The traffickers were aided and abetted by bleeding heart NGOs who moored in their Saviour Ships off the Libyan coastline and picked up these people in their dinghies when they were barely out to sea and instead of returning them to Africa, brought them across the 300 miles ot the Italian coastline.
    It was absolutely ridiculous. Italy was utterly overwhelmed. Hundreds of thousands landed on their shores and had to be processed, up to 70% of all refugees to Europe. They often then disappeared, going northwards. Feck, the Italians often put them on trains to get them out of their countries - and who would blame them, no country could sustain such an influx.
    So, a democratically-elected government decided to close the ports. Now they are the monsters supposedly - well on the BBC and Irish Times, they are portrayed as some sort of xenophobic monsters. And yet it is the closure of the ports that has saved people. It cut off the end of the migrant pipeline and the traffickers cannot profit now as much from human misery. One tenth of the number drowned in the seas since the ports closed, since the Saviour Ships had to give up their missions.

    Spot on


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    gozunda wrote: »
    Theres a bunch of other things why white people are supposedly "so annoying" (this is not racist btw!)
    While Black Americans had no choice in the matter, if White people and their culture is so silly, why are half the world fighting to get into White nations and cultures and feck all Whites are fighting to get into non White nations and cultures? Answers on a postcard to the usual address.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Spot on
    Yup, it's how Australia dealt with their flow of illegal immigrants coming by sea. Hundreds were being drowned every year, until the Australian government stopped them making landfall on the country and put them in holding camps on islands to process them. Drownings all but stopped overnight.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Zorya wrote: »
    Roh god, unpopular opinion alert!
    The drownings in the Med, which are abhorrent, were caused by a very well established people trafficking network, people making huge sums of money in North Africa to push these unfortunates out to sea on dinghies. Slave markets. Preying on poor people's aspirations for economic success.
    The traffickers were aided and abetted by bleeding heart NGOs who moored in their Saviour Ships off the Libyan coastline and picked up these people in their dinghies when they were barely out to sea and instead of returning them to Africa, brought them across the 300 miles ot the Italian coastline.
    It was absolutely ridiculous. Italy was utterly overwhelmed. Hundreds of thousands landed on their shores and had to be processed, up to 70% of all refugees to Europe. They often then disappeared, going northwards. Feck, the Italians often put them on trains to get them out of their countries - and who would blame them, no country could sustain such an influx.
    So, a democratically-elected government decided to close the ports. Now they are the monsters supposedly - well on the BBC and Irish Times, they are portrayed as some sort of xenophobic monsters. And yet it is the closure of the ports that has saved people. It cut off the end of the migrant pipeline and the traffickers cannot profit now as much from human misery. One tenth of the number drowned in the seas since the ports closed, since the Saviour Ships had to give up their missions.

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    I wonder will Pat Kenny or Sean O Rourke have it on their show this morning ?
    Probably not - there will be more Trump hissy fitting and blaming all white people for the NZ attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Standout headline on the Irish Examiner's viewpoint this morning:
    We must tackle global threat of white terror

    Yep, all us whities are responsible for all the world's ills.

    The author could have easily used this headline:
    We must tackle global threat of white extremist terror

    But nagh, white guilt must prevail on media outlets, as it reinforces the liberal/left push for uncontrolled economic migration to Western countries.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Standout headline on the Irish Examiner's viewpoint this morning:
    We must tackle global threat of white terror

    Yep, all us whities are responsible for all the world's ills.

    The author could have easily used this headline:
    We must tackle global threat of white extremist terror

    But nagh, white guilt must prevail on media outlets, as it reinforces the liberal/left push for uncontrolled economic migration to Western countries.
    Its part of the luciferian globalist cabal conspiracy is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,005 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Another cultural diversity incident.


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