Australia blocks 4chan, 8chan, Liveleak, others

Billy86 · 20-03-2019 12:00AM #1

It seems to be in response to websites refusing to take down footage of the white supremacist terror attack by an Aussie in New Zealand a few days ago.

A little click baity to say Australia in general, though if I recall from living there a few years back, Telstra essentially control the network. It is unclear which have been blocked as of yet, by other providers.

So far, the self anointed 'as*hole of the internet' (4Chan), it's own as*hole (8Chan), far right social media outlet Voat, far right news outlet Zero Hedge, and Liveleak have been blocked, unclear if others refusing to take down are also coming.

https://amp.9news.com.au/article/128de87c-0fba-4bac-9e14-d3a1cfbbc6d4

Several websites including 4chan have been blocked by major Australian telcos for continuing to host footage of the Christchurch terrorist attack.

Telstra on Tuesday blocked access to 4chan, 8chan and Voat, the blog Zerohedge and video hosting platform Liveleak.

"We understand this may inconvenience some legitimate users of these sites, but these are extreme circumstances and we feel this is the right thing to do," Telstra networks and IT executive Nikos Katinakis said in a statement.

yerwanthere123 · 20-03-2019 12:11AM

Good.

Atlantic Dawn · 20-03-2019 12:19AM

<Backward Irish TD>Turn off the internet outside office hours, that will fix all this mess for good</Backward Irish TD>

Harry Palmr · 20-03-2019 12:22AM

No loss really, other than to "basement dwellers". One imagines this is just a maifestation of Australia feeling guilty though. It wouldn't have happened if the killer had been a Kiwi or if this has ocurred on the other side of the world

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-03-2019 12:33AM

That's like hitting a wasps nest with a baseball bat

RWCNT · 20-03-2019 12:34AM

Looking forward to DS or Auntie Semite or another of the weird far right people that have been infesting AH over the last few months to wade in here decrying this gross act of censorship and affront to muh freeze peach.

If AH ever became a board dedicated to nothing but crypto-fashy memes and a ticking timebomb for radicalising neckbeards Id want it taken down as well. This **** cant be called "just a joke" anymore.

Twenty Grand · 20-03-2019 12:39AM

RWCNT wrote: »

If AH ever became a board dedicated to nothing but crypto-fashy memes and a ticking timebomb for radicalising neckbeards Id want it taken down as well. This **** cant be called "just a joke" anymore.

Red Dwarf?

Not a fan of this at all.
Sure these sites can refuse to take it down, but there's plenty more on these sites than just that video.
Massive knee jerk response from the Aussies.

Free speech and free expression over any politics of the day.

humberklog · 20-03-2019 12:42AM

I don't know about the other sites but i'd be annoyed if Livleaks was blocked for me.

Not from my cold dead hands!

RWCNT · 20-03-2019 12:45AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Red Dwarf?

Not a fan of this at all.
Sure these sites can refuse to take it down, but there's plenty more on these sites than just that video.
Massive knee jerk response from the Aussies.

Free speech and free expression over any politics of the day.

Bravo. Shame that your beloved freedom of expression extends to cesspits of fascist propaganda that radicalise young men and cause them to murder people. I applaud your liberal bull**** though all the same, great work.

derfderf · 20-03-2019 12:50AM

I'm with Telstra. I can access 4chan, but the others are blocked.

end of the road · 20-03-2019 01:02AM

i would imagine those who would really want to access those websites can get around the block anyway so i don't really see the point tbh.

Twenty Grand · 20-03-2019 01:05AM

RWCNT wrote: »

Looking forward to DS or Auntie Semite or another of the weird far right people that have been infesting AH over the last few months to wade in here decrying this gross act of censorship and affront to muh freeze peach.

If AH ever became a board dedicated to nothing but crypto-fashy memes and a ticking timebomb for radicalising neckbeards Id want it taken down as well. This **** cant be called "just a joke" anymore.

RWCNT wrote: »

Bravo. Shame that your beloved freedom of expression extends to cesspits of fascist propaganda that radicalise young men and cause them to murder people. I applaud your liberal bull**** though all the same, great work.

So apparently I'm a far right weirdo AND liberal AND fascist for wanting an open internet?
Me thinks you haven't a notion what you're talking about.

Have you even been on any of the sites that have been censored?
Do you know anything about them?

They're far from what you think they are.

Yakult · 20-03-2019 01:07AM

Easily to be accessed even if banned...

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-03-2019 01:08AM

end of the road wrote: »

i would imagine those who would really want to access those websites can get around the block anyway so i don't really see the point tbh.

Pointless it only gets them more riled up

Gatling · 20-03-2019 01:16AM

But didn't block them for for hosting other **** including multiple Isis massacre videos.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 20-03-2019 01:21AM

You’d need to also ban a lot more - the clash of civilisation stuff from American right wingers - to have any effect. Many of these ideologues are feted however.

Canis Lupus · 20-03-2019 01:34AM

All you need to do is change your DNS to google. It's a two second job or get a VPN.

This is just tokenistic bollix anyway. Annoy a small number of people and be seen to 'be doing something about it' with the minimum effort.

sabat · 20-03-2019 01:38AM

humberklog wrote: »

I don't know about the other sites but i'd be annoyed if Livleaks was blocked for me.

Not from my cold dead hands!

You'd miss the videos of crazy naked black chicks outside Taco Bells?

markodaly · 20-03-2019 01:56AM

Whatever way you cut it is censorship. Fine if people agree to it but be careful for what you wish for.
Do you want a Chinese style internet policy, with facial recognition and social credits to boot?

I can never understand why one thinks that banning something fixes a problem.
Drugs like cannabis have been banned for decades, how is that working out for ya?

Suckit · 20-03-2019 01:58AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

All you need to do is change your DNS to google. It's a two second job or get a VPN.

Changing DNS not working on some ISPs apparently.

Any idea when Facebook/Instagram will be blocked? Or any of the other cesspools.
Also, I don't think Liveleak were hosting the video.
Or if they were, they deleted it as soon as they realised.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=uSQT_1552831454

We've received no small number of complaints regarding the fact we will not carry the video filmed by the psychopath who murdered 49 innocent people in New Zealand, streaming the event live on Facebook. As a result we decided we'd put out a statement explaining why we have taken this stance......

....The Christchurch shooter wasn't just some random “nutcase”. He planned not just the murders but also the chaos he would sow with his manifesto which reads like the fevered dream of a fully fledged “****poster”. Currently, judging by media coverage and reactions online, he's getting almost exactly what he wanted. We don't intend to indulge him further.
The Christchurch shooter wasn't just some random “nutcase”. He planned not just the murders but also the chaos he would sow with his manifesto which reads like the fevered dream of a fully fledged “****poster”. Currently, judging by media coverage and reactions online, he's getting almost exactly what he wanted. We don't intend to indulge him further......

RWCNT · 20-03-2019 02:06AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

So apparently I'm a far right weirdo AND liberal AND fascist for wanting an open internet?
Me thinks you haven't a notion what you're talking about.

Have you even been on any of the sites that have been censored?
Do you know anything about them?

They're far from what you think they are.

I never once called you far right or fascist, I was talking about a specific kind of poster that's emerged on AH recently, it's not all about you hun. Your freeze peach chat is pretty liberal, hence why I aimed it directly at you.

Yes, I've seen the sites, and they're exactly what I say they are. Based on your response to my post I dont think your reading comprehension is the best, so unsurprised that you don't agree with me. I know I'm being a bit condescending but I'm speaking the truth. Sorry pal.

Wibbs · 20-03-2019 02:13AM

end of the road wrote: »

i would imagine those who would really want to access those websites can get around the block anyway so i don't really see the point tbh.

This. The very backbone of the internet as it was designed from the outset basically means it sees censorship as a fault and will try to route around it. And those routes are accessible to anyone with even a modicum of knowledge. This kinda grandstanding gesture will appeal to the narrow of thinking and will work for same and they'll think it's all gone away, but they ignore the fact that the very people it's aimed against will be still reading it, only now out of even more oversight by normal average folks.

bfa1509 · 20-03-2019 02:18AM

RWCNT wrote: »

Looking forward to DS or Auntie Semite or another of the weird far right people that have been infesting AH over the last few months to wade in here decrying this gross act of censorship and affront to muh freeze peach.

If AH ever became a board dedicated to nothing but crypto-fashy memes and a ticking timebomb for radicalising neckbeards Id want it taken down as well. This **** cant be called "just a joke" anymore.

So who do you think has the moral highground to decide what is worthy of being on the internet? Mark Zuckerberg? Jack Dorsey? Barack Obama? Do you think the internet should be managed by a select congregation of your upstanding leftist idols?

RWCNT · 20-03-2019 02:23AM

Wibbs wrote: »

This. The very backbone of the internet as it was designed from the outset basically means it sees censorship as a fault and will try to route around it. And those routes are accessible to anyone with even a modicum of knowledge. This kinda grandstanding gesture will appeal to the narrow of thinking and will work for same and they'll think it's all gone away, but they ignore the fact that the very people it's aimed against will be still reading it, only now out of even more oversight by normal average folks.

Do you think everyone that reads these forums is a wiz that knows how to get around these blocks? Certainly true for many of them, but definitely not all of them, and I'd venture those that lack the ability are of a significant percentage. I don't think anyone thinks that these measures will make these grubby little spots of the Internet go away forever but as an effort to limit exposure to these sites it will definitely work to an extent, so why not?

Twenty Grand · 20-03-2019 02:24AM

RWCNT wrote: »

I never once called you far right or fascist, I was talking about a specific kind of poster that's emerged on AH recently, it's not all about you hun. Your freeze peach chat is pretty liberal, hence why I aimed it directly at you.

Yes, I've seen the sites, and they're exactly what I say they are. Based on your response to my post I dont think your reading comprehension is the best, so unsurprised that you don't agree with me. I know I'm being a bit condescending but I'm speaking the truth. Sorry pal.

I think you've a hard time reading your own misspelled barely comprehensible bullsh*t.

Apparently I'm far right and also liberal for supporting a "freeze peach" and open internet?
Ya pull the other one pal. Looks like you've found a dictionary of cool internet political terms and you're keen to show us how smart you are by throwing a few big words out there.

Also you've "seen" 4chan?
You've "seen" liveleak?
That's like saying you've seen Reddit or you've seen Youtube.

Wanting to ban these websites because you don't like one aspect is like wanting to ban music because you don't like a song.

This move is so knee jerk, idiotic, and ill thought out I'm surprised it didn't have Sean Sherlock's name attached.

RWCNT · 20-03-2019 02:29AM

bfa1509 wrote: »

So who do you think has the moral highground to decide what is worthy of being on the internet? Mark Zuckerberg? Jack Dorsey? Barack Obama? Do you think the internet should be managed by a select congregation of your upstanding leftist idols?

The fact you seem to think the people you've named are even leftist tells me everything I need to know about your level of political literacy, so I'm apprehensive of trying to enter into dialogue with you. I said nothing about what should or should not be on the internet, but I applaud NZ for trying to divert traffic from boards which recently radicalised a man that killed 50 odd people. If you value muh freeze peach on the interwebs over that turn maybe it's time to re-adjust the old moral compass? Just a thought, sweetheart.

Billy86 · 20-03-2019 02:32AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Free speech and free expression over any politics of the day.

My girlfriend is banned from 4chan (don't even ask!), so it appears they're not so hot on free speech themselves.

Twenty Grand · 20-03-2019 02:33AM

RWCNT wrote: »

The fact you seem to think the people you've named are even leftist tells me everything I need to know about your level of political literacy, so I'm apprehensive of trying to enter into dialogue with you. I said nothing about what should or should not be on the internet, but I applaud NZ for trying to divert traffic from boards which recently radicalised a man that killed 50 odd people. If you value muh freeze peach on the interwebs over that turn maybe it's time to re-adjust the old moral compass? Just a thought, sweetheart.

He didn't say they were leftist. You need to pay more attention. Maybe it's past your bedtime sweetheart?

Billy86 wrote: »

My girlfriend is banned from 4chan (don't even ask!), so it appears they're not so hot on free speech themselves.

Ah you can't tease us, spill!

There's a difference between 4chan banning one account from posting and an ISP banning many sites.

Rubberchikken · 20-03-2019 02:34AM

if someone doesnt want to view that video then dont. ive never been on social media so havent seen nor will ever see the video and ill survive.
this man choose to do what he did. others did before him and im guessing but others will in the future.
not mentioning his name like that lameass pm in NZ has been going on about isnt going to lessen the pain caused to family members of the dead and its not going to stop it ever happening again.
censoring the internet/tv isnt going to prevent it either.
there were always racists. there was always hatred. censorship wont fix that.

RWCNT · 20-03-2019 02:35AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

I think you've a hard time reading your own misspelled barely comprehensible bullsh*t.

Apparently I'm far right and also liberal for supporting a "freeze peach" and open internet?
Ya pull the other one pal. Looks like you've found a dictionary of cool internet political terms and you're keen to show us how smart you are by throwing a few big words out there.

Also you've "seen" 4chan?
You've "seen" liveleak?
That's like saying you've seen Reddit or you've seen Youtube.

Wanting to ban these websites because you don't like one aspect is like wanting to ban music because you don't like a song.

This move is so knee jerk, idiotic, and ill thought out I'm surprised it didn't have Sean Sherlock's name attached.

Why do you insist on saying that I think you're far right? I've said no such thing. Apologies for any spelling mistakes, but you must be correct in asserting that my posts are incomprehensible as you demonstrably can't grasp the point of what I'm saying. I'm satisfied that i put a reasonable case across, so tough titty for you I guess. Sorry my big words upset you. Also, I never said a thing about banning anything from the internet. Terrible. Take a lap.

Billy86 · 20-03-2019 02:38AM

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Ah you can't tease us, spill!

I wish I could but let's say it caused a hell of a lot of problems!

There's a difference between 4chan banning one account from posting and an ISP banning many sites.

But if it's all about free speech, why is the free speech of a company deemed more important than the free speech of an actual person?

Australia blocks 4chan, 8chan, Liveleak, others

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