Madeleine McCann

SusieBlue wrote: »

Ok, fine, take away the need to clean up blood.
You still think its possible that shortly after 6pm they killed her, concocted a plan, stayed calm, hid the body, dumped the body, left no incriminating evidence, weren't seen by anyone, and then went off to a dinner party acting normally shortly after 8pm?

Yeah we're in tin foil hat territory here I'm afraid.

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Is there proof of that?

What about the part of a rich friend of the mccanns getting involved?

Well they show it in the netflix doc, I can't personally vouch for the affidavit or their rich friend's involvement, but Netflix showed it and the rich friend was confident enough to give an interview.

Lady Spangles wrote: »

People who were initially sceptical of the McCanns have said they have an excellent relationship with their children. One spoke in the documentary. So what makes you say they were "cold" toward their children? Are you referring to leaving them alone for a few hours while they had dinner? Again, it may be a mistake bordering on negligence, but hardly "cold" and unfeeling toward their kids.

They passed it off as being British culture to abandon very young children for prolonged times and doing this repeatedly (enough for a supposed kidnapper to take note of the routine and hatch a plot to kidnap the child), while also saving a few pound on the babysitter, an English special if you will. Call it negligence if you want, they say it's their culture. I say it's coldness.

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Yeah we're in tin foil hat territory here I'm afraid.

It's far fetched alright, almost as far fetched as the McCann's version of events.

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Not everyone knows as much as you Splinter, relax.

I can never get an answer. Everyone knows that Gerry did it but no one knows how. The greatest murderer who ever lived.

cgcsb wrote: »

It's far fetched alright, almost as far fetched as the McCann's version of events.

So how did they do it? How did they kill her, hide the body, get rid of all the evidence, dump the body and not get caught doing so in just under a 2hr window?
While acting normally?

splinter65 wrote: »

No they didn’t.

Yes they did, they even admitted this, while also spinning some bull storey about 'checking on them every few mins'. Staff at the restaurant say checks were few and infrequent and non existent some nights.

splinter65 wrote: »

Now answer the questions. Why did he kill her? When did he kill her? How did he kill her? Where did he kill her? How did he move her body to bury it and when considering that they were under full time surveillance by the cops the press and the staff of the hotel?
Go.

See my other posts for a theory. Only they know what they really done, but the wont say.

cgcsb wrote: »

Yes they did, they even admitted this, while also spinning some bull storey about 'checking on them every few mins'. Staff at the restaurant say checks were few and infrequent and non existent some nights.



See my other posts for a theory. Only they know what they really done, but the wont say.

Is this the theory where you said they dumped her body that night in the hire car, the same hire car they didn't actually hire until 25 days AFTER Madeleine went missing?

SusieBlue wrote: »

No most people do not accept this, because there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to indicate they did. None. At all.

The way some of you are talking you'd swear Kate put the lot of them under general anesthetic before heading out on a coke binge.

Come now, the twins were out cold while the building was being turned upside down by concerned guests and staff looking for her.

Even the McCann's theory of a kidnapper climbing in the window is not possible without the 3 kids being sedated, the kids would have screamed bloody murder. Instead the twins weren't freaked out the next day.

Kate later claimed the kidnapper must have sedated all three of them simultaneously somehow after climbing in the window. Even the friend who claimed she seen a man carrying a sleeping child, she supposed was Maddie, said the child was asleep.

Their own version of events must include sedation. Kids don't just sleep through such things.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Probably the same way whichever stranger you think did it.

Whichever it was they were successful is making her disappear.

My theory is that they were being watched.
It was written in the restaurant reservations book that the Tapas group had a specific table block booked at a specific table for the whole week.

It was noted in the book that the specific table was needed because the parents were going to be dining while their kids were in bed in the apartments.
This book was accessible by the waiters, bartenders, cleaners and not hidden from the general public.
Anyone could have seen this note.

All it would have taken would have been a day or two of observation to establish the routine.
Its widely accepted that the McCann apartment was the most vulnerable as it had street access.
I think someone sinister learned that they were leaving their children alone, watched, and took their opportunity.

I believe she was taken out of PdeL almost immediately.
Where to, I don't know. But I don't believe she was there for long after she was taken.

I find this scenario far more believable and reasonable than Kate and/or Gerry murdering their child, getting the other partner on board with it, dumping a body in an unfamiliar location and then carrying about their business as usual until they feigned the "abduction".
It becomes even less believable when you consider that some think the Tapas group were also involved in the cover up, would you lie for your friend if they murdered their own kid?

And lastly, they persist on bringing media attention to it over a decade later. Everyone would have long forgotten about Madeleine if her parents hadn't persisted in keeping her name in the public domain over the last few years.
Why would they keep attracting attention to themselves if they were in any way responsible?

The worst things in the world have been said about them, and some of it deservedly so, because they were STUPID to leave the kids alone.

But why would they keep dragging this negative attention, this media intrusion, this judgment from the court of public opinion on themselves & their twins unless they knew someone else was responsible for their child going missing?

Because they know they aren't responsible & they feel a massive burden of guilt for leaving Madeleine in a position where she could be taken from them.

cgcsb wrote: »

Well nobody knows for certain except the McCanns, hence the thread. We do know Kate tampered with the window and lied to the cops about discovering the crime scene and the sniffer dogs identified the location of a corps, and the DNA of Madeline was found in the car.

Wrong, on so many counts here. The DNA found was not proven to be Madeleine's, in fact it was proven that it could have been the DNA of Kate, Gerry or the twins.

There is no evidence Kate tampered with the window.
There is evidence that Portuguese police failed to preserve the crime scene, allowing the world and his wife traipse through the apartment, hence damaging chances of finding any DNA.

SusieBlue wrote: »

Is this the theory where you said they dumped her body that night in the hire car, the same hire car they didn't actually hire until 25 days AFTER Madeleine went missing?

Nope, never said that.