The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann (Netflix)

tretorn · 17-03-2019 01:41PM

Did the Smith family not say afterwards that it was a different child they saw.

I was reading at the same time as I was watching though because it was a bit tedious.

I am on episode four or five though, what episode do the Smiths appear in.

razorblunt · 17-03-2019 04:05PM

tretorn wrote: »

I watched it and I just dont know either.

I still cant get over Kate Mc Cann running from the apartment without the twins, she is shouting someone has taken Madeleine and yet she has left her twins in that apartment with the door open. Maybe it was shock, none of us know how we would react but the twins were tiny, surely you would pick them both up and run with them.

I watched another programme about this and one local who ran a shop said there is no way you could walk around that resort with a child and not be spotted by someone, this shop owner made no further comment but was quite adamant that there were always people walking around and you would be spotted. Did anyone else apart from the friend who was with the group see the person with the child in his arms.

Its utterly, utterly bizarre that anyone would leave their children sleeping, you would take better care of your hired car. The child was so let down.

Not up that road though. It really is a quiet street and the resort has loads of quiet streets. The properties dont tend to have balconies facing the roads either so that aspect wouldnt be there either .

Blanco100 · 18-03-2019 12:20AM

somebody might correct me on this but it didnt seem to be properly explained in relation to exact relationship between the McCanns and the tapas 7. Were they friends who met over the course of the holiday? were they close friend who were acquainted back in Uk?

The Oldfield guy who check on their kids, was he a close friend from home? Very odd to let a bloke you met on holiday check on your kids.

However, being a negligent parent doesnt make them complicit. There would be a whole different spin put on this case if the McCann were an unemployed couple in same circumstances whose kid went missing in Benidorm.

I think they were closed off to certain lines of questioning/closed ranks to a certain extent as they knew they were going to be vilified for leaving their kids alone.

So many theories in fairness, but my own guess would be that the family were under surveillance by a sophisticated trafficking operation who saw a window of oportunity to get in and get out having witnessed the families regular evening habits.

Chances are shes living with a family now and is completely non the wiser.

18-03-2019 01:49AM

Blanco100 wrote: »

Chances are shes living with a family now and is completely non the wiser.

I wonder if she has access to Netflix?

biggebruv · 18-03-2019 04:38AM

I think she’s dead and they had something to do with it especially the dad something doesn’t sit right with me on him

jeremyj1968 · 18-03-2019 10:00AM

razorblunt wrote: »

On episode 2 now, that la dust described her as an “attractive girl”. WTF? She was 3.

Yeah I found that odd as well. Surely the word pretty would have been more appropriate, but how can a man describe a little girl as being attractive.

I'm on episode six at the moment. It was good at the start, but is now just going over all the false leads and red herrings. The program seems to be more about people who feel they have been maligned (like Robert Murat, Goncalo Amoral, Brian Kennedy) to defend their characters rather than actually getting to the truth of what happened to the child.

I presume that they approached Martin Smith but he said no interview?

18-03-2019 10:10AM

Don't think I'm going to watch it..all these sensationalist documentaries designed to just be a big whodunnit and get idiots arguing over them are really starting to annoy and depress me.. It's so divisive.. There is a little girl missing here..this is not entertainment..If I see investigators going around doing speaking tours I'll lose whatever miniscule amount of faith in humanity I have left..

razorblunt · 18-03-2019 10:29AM

Blanco100 wrote: »

somebody might correct me on this but it didnt seem to be properly explained in relation to exact relationship between the McCanns and the tapas 7. Were they friends who met over the course of the holiday? were they close friend who were acquainted back in Uk?

The Oldfield guy who check on their kids, was he a close friend from home? Very odd to let a bloke you met on holiday check on your kids.

However, being a negligent parent doesnt make them complicit. There would be a whole different spin put on this case if the McCann were an unemployed couple in same circumstances whose kid went missing in Benidorm.

I think they were closed off to certain lines of questioning/closed ranks to a certain extent as they knew they were going to be vilified for leaving their kids alone.

So many theories in fairness, but my own guess would be that the family were under surveillance by a sophisticated trafficking operation who saw a window of oportunity to get in and get out having witnessed the families regular evening habits.

Chances are shes living with a family now and is completely non the wiser.

Yer man Oldfield didn't even stick his head in on the kids, lazy bastard.

What I find strange is the mother said the door was more ajar than she had remembered earlier in the evening so it raised suspicion. But her husband and Oldfield had been to check before here, why would she be alarmed knowing someone else could have left it like that.

Tipsy McSwagger · 18-03-2019 01:15PM

biggebruv wrote: »

I think she’s dead and they had something to do with it especially the dad something doesn’t sit right with me on him

Ok so how did they do it? What was the motive? Where was the opportunity? Why would they do it?
What doesn’t sit right with you about the dad?

Agent Coulson · 18-03-2019 01:33PM

The man who went back to the apartment to check on the kids but didn't check to see if they were actually there I wonder how much he was questioned and was he a suspect?

I also wonder how he feels now after all these years the guilt must be huge on him.

jeremyj1968 · 18-03-2019 05:31PM

Very disappointing. The eight episodes could have been condensed down in to one maybe two episodes. Lots of peripheral stories like the trouble with the investigation agencies and the legal cases that Murat and the Tapas 7 took against the papers. Lots of self serving interviews with people connected to the case, like Murat and (grrrrrrrr) Kelvin McKenzie. No enough focus on the main story. And it keeps jumping all over the place - In episode eight they have just gone back to the Jane Tanner sighting having already covered it in another episode, maybe they ran out of material?

Richard D Hall has done more relevant work on his YouTube channel, than what is contained in this series.

And that husband and wife pair that they interviewed throughout the documentary drove me mad with their slow and passive delivery

I think the McCanns must have given Anthony Summers a dose of Calpol before they started filming.

brooke 2 · 18-03-2019 05:57PM

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Very disappointing. The eight episodes could have been condensed down in to one maybe two episodes. Lots of peripheral stories like the trouble with the investigation agencies and the legal cases that Murat and the Tapas 7 took against the papers. Lots of self serving interviews with people connected to the case, like Murat and (grrrrrrrr) Kelvin McKenzie. No enough focus on the main story. And it keeps jumping all over the place - In episode eight they have just gone back to the Jane Tanner sighting having already covered it in another episode, maybe they ran out of material?

Richard D Hall has done more relevant work on his YouTube channel, than what is contained in this series.

And that husband and wife pair that they interviewed throughout the documentary drove me mad with their slow and passive delivery

I think the McCanns must have given Anthony Summers a dose of Calpol before they started filming.

Anthony Summers.......I think he was the guy who was just interviewed on Newstalk. Has written a book about Madeleine's disappearance. Very supportive of the McCanns. Said they were not negligent parents! :mad:

biggebruv · 18-03-2019 06:41PM

Yes it’s definitely way to long it’s another making a murderer wannabe like almost all these recent docs could have been told in one 3 hour doc

So many unnecessary side story’s and sweeping shots of landscapes FFS get over yourselfs

limnam · 18-03-2019 06:45PM

biggebruv wrote: »

and sweeping shots of landscapes FFS get over yourselfs

Best part of the doc for me. Looks like a beautiful place to on a holiday

banie01 · 18-03-2019 06:53PM

Very poor and stunted documentary IMO.
The 2nd half of the season in particular is incredibly speculative.

One of my favourite points is the constant referencing of the Jane Tanner sighting.

Tanner gave a vague description of a man with no face. As time went on that description was fleshed out more and more by Tanner without actually adding any descriptive detail.

That developed into the Brian Kennedy funded FBI trained artist sketch of a man carrying a young girl with a description of the pyjamas and blonde hair and so on...
She then confirms that this new "sketch" has at least an 80% likeness to the man she is now convinced took Maddie!
The sketch still has no face, but now it's a total game changer?

I note they docu makers focused very much on the English speaking Anglican minister, and made no mention of the Catholic priest.

limnam · 18-03-2019 07:00PM

banie01 wrote: »

Very poor and stunted documentary IMO.
The 2nd half of the season in particular is incredibly speculative.

One of my favourite points is the constant referencing of the Jane Tanner sighting.

Tanner gave a vague description of a man with no face. As time went on that description was fleshed out more and more by Tanner without actually adding any descriptive detail.

That developed into the Brian Kennedy funded FBI trained artist sketch of a man carrying a young girl with a description of the pyjamas and blonde hair and so on...
She then confirms that this new "sketch" has at least an 80% likeness to the man she is now convinced took Maddie!
The sketch still has no face, but now it's a total game changer?

I note they docu makers focused very much on the English speaking Anglican minister, and made no mention of the Catholic priest.

Game changer?

Didn't the guy come forward and cleared from the inquiry ?

7znbd9xmoiupye · 18-03-2019 07:56PM

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Very disappointing. The eight episodes could have been condensed down in to one maybe two episodes. Lots of peripheral stories like the trouble with the investigation agencies and the legal cases that Murat and the Tapas 7 took against the papers. Lots of self serving interviews with people connected to the case, like Murat and (grrrrrrrr) Kelvin McKenzie. No enough focus on the main story. And it keeps jumping all over the place - In episode eight they have just gone back to the Jane Tanner sighting having already covered it in another episode, maybe they ran out of material?

Richard D Hall has done more relevant work on his YouTube channel, than what is contained in this series.

And that husband and wife pair that they interviewed throughout the documentary drove me mad with their slow and passive delivery

I think the McCanns must have given Anthony Summers a dose of Calpol before they started filming.

are those two journalist idiots in in all the way through?

BobbyBobberson · 18-03-2019 08:14PM

Some interesting bits in it but my god is it stretched out. The amount of padding and tangents is ridiculous.

thomas 123 · 18-03-2019 08:18PM

BobbyBobberson wrote: »

Some interesting bits in it but my god is it stretched out. The amount of padding and tangents is ridiculous.

Yup just all padding. They could have covered it in 3 hours.

leahyl · 18-03-2019 08:42PM

I agree with there being too many episodes - I actually thought it was just a 2 hour documentary initially before I went onto Netflix to watch it, kind of put me off but I stuck it out - crazy long though with way too much padding as others have said and when they introduced that police officer from Scotland Yard who had worked in Northern Ireland and all the footage of the troubles - wtf, completely pointless

BobbyBobberson · 18-03-2019 09:11PM

Jesus H Christ, that investigative couple. The. way. she. speaks. is. killing. me. Her delivery is genuinely painful. On episode 6 here myself

Eric Cartman · 18-03-2019 09:15PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

somebody might correct me on this but it didnt seem to be properly explained in relation to exact relationship between the McCanns and the tapas 7. Were they friends who met over the course of the holiday? were they close friend who were acquainted back in Uk?

The Oldfield guy who check on their kids, was he a close friend from home? Very odd to let a bloke you met on holiday check on your kids.

However, being a negligent parent doesnt make them complicit. There would be a whole different spin put on this case if the McCann were an unemployed couple in same circumstances whose kid went missing in Benidorm.

I think they were closed off to certain lines of questioning/closed ranks to a certain extent as they knew they were going to be vilified for leaving their kids alone.

So many theories in fairness, but my own guess would be that the family were under surveillance by a sophisticated trafficking operation who saw a window of oportunity to get in and get out having witnessed the families regular evening habits.

Chances are shes living with a family now and is completely non the wiser.

Id put a million quid on her having died from complications due to sedatives and only Jerry knows where the body is buried. I think that child being alive right now is wayyy down the theory list.

QuietMan2010 · 18-03-2019 09:16PM

I thought the Nordy policeman came across very well.

Not so the Kennedys, who I hadn't heard of before watching.

One thing that puzzles me is the thread about the dodgy man with the buck teeth and long hair, he was either one of the bogus orphanage collectors and/or seen hanging around the complex. They had one video clip of him looking suspicious outside a camper van or some sort of market, and kept re-showing that footage. But after building him up as a possible lead, and repeating the clip, his involvement was dismissed without explanation. Were they just repeating the clip because they had it?

jeremyj1968 · 18-03-2019 09:30PM

Oaklee Repulsive Ace wrote: »

are those two journalist idiots in in all the way through?

Unfortunately yes, they were certainly paid by the minute, not by the word. If you send me your address, I will ship you over the cattle prod that I bought for perking up Anthony Summers.

For anybody interested in the case I would recommend watching this. Statement Analysist Peter Hyatt goes through a couple of interviews with the McCanns and tries to work out what they are saying in their words. This was doing the rounds a couple of years back in the fraud/claims industry as the techniques are very relevant to their work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS6ucYudNAo

And for anybody who thinks that Robert Murat is the victim after his Oscar winning performance in the NetFlix documentary, have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgmtrOeDLM

Jimbob1977 · 18-03-2019 11:00PM

I'm on Episode 3

The Dutch-British couple in Marrakech seemed adamant.

biggebruv · 18-03-2019 11:19PM

How come there was nothing about the British Tv personality or td who was discovered to be a paedophile last year he owned a villa not far from where Madeleine was abducted

Sir clement Freud was his name

Paully D · 18-03-2019 11:29PM

I'm 3 episodes in now and can't see myself rushing to continue.

It's full of fluff and filler so far with very little substance.

It's almost as if Netflix said they'd be interested but wanted an 8-parter, and the makers have done everything within their power to make what should be a 2 hour documentary into an 8-parter.

BobbyBobberson · 18-03-2019 11:29PM

Second last episode, cant wait to see how it finishes. My money is on the twins.

In all seriousness, you know what i did find odd. I forget what episode it was but

when the cadaver dog picks up the scent of Maddies teddy. So this teddy was with Kate the whole time. It was at press speeches, when she was on the balcony, never left her side, it even managed to meet the pope. Yet the cops found it fecked into the bottom of a dresser? Surely you'd have it elsewhere?

Stuff like that makes me feel uneasy about the McCanns. Or maybe I am just still hungover.

splinter65 · 18-03-2019 11:33PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Id put a million quid on her having died from complications due to sedatives and only Jerry knows where the body is buried. I think that child being alive right now is wayyy down the theory list.

How did the twins survive the sedatives or did they only sedate Madeleine? How did they get rid of her body? When? Where?

brookers · 18-03-2019 11:54PM

Im on ep 3, a shiver went through me when Jim Gamble said he didnt like Jerry and found him very cold......something does not add up with the whole tapas scene, when Kate got to the apartment and discovered M missing but at the same time how could you go through the whole charade of meeting the pope, flying all over the world, writing books, if you were hiding something. Its a tough one. I couldnt imagine leaving kids though in an apartment, twins who were only two, my God to go and eat and drink and they out of sight with open doors.....

The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann (Netflix)

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