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stomach tube

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭farmersfriend


    ferger1 wrote: »
    Thanks. good tip. Any way of knowing if its gone into the windpipe by mistake before you let off the milk

    Put your ear at opening of bag and u should hear stomach noises. If u hear breathing u are in wrong place..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Buy a Jex bull calf for a score and try it. The first thing I show a student is how to tube a calf, get them to practice on je bulls and unfortunately they've never managed to kill one

    Straddle the calf, one hand under chin and hold up calves chin elongating the neck next insert tube with a gentle push it'll slide down. If you meet resistance don't force it, gentle pressure only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭stanflt


    typical sat night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭mf240


    Most of our cows will let you hand milk them so I usually milk them into a jug and bottle feed the calf, give as much as they will drink up to 4 litres. If cow is touchy I let into parlour to milk.

    Another point on stomach tubing is to let the tube fully empty before you pull it out, if you do it too soon the last bit might get on their lungs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    stanflt wrote: »
    typical sat night

    Where did you get the bottle for the stomach tube. I'm sick to the back teeth of the bags:mad:.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭munkus


    ferger1 wrote: »
    Thanks. good tip. Any way of knowing if its gone into the windpipe by mistake before you let off the milk

    let it down slowly and the calf will swallow it. If it is going down the right way you'll feel the head of it through the skin of the neck. The windpipe is solid so you won't feel it through that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Where did you get the bottle for the stomach tube. I'm sick to the back teeth of the bags:mad:.

    I got mine off Gregg care.
    I had a shoof bottle already to start calves off on when they were dropped. Got the cap for stomach tube. Very easy to use and cheap enough too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Where did you get the bottle for the stomach tube. I'm sick to the back teeth of the bags:mad:.

    This is what you need. Gregg Care Donegal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭munkus


    delaval wrote: »
    This is what you need. Gregg Care Donegal

    Is that a tap on the side, picture 3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    munkus wrote: »
    Is that a tap on the side, picture 3?

    That tap is to allow air in . If you open it the milk flows quicker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Came across this today. Good explanation on stomach tubing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    I'm embarrased to say i've never tube fed a calf, was never really shown how and never had the confidence to try it, i just persist with the bottle and if all else fails i will feed with a syringe into the mouth and dribble a little at a time. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,547 ✭✭✭tanko


    I'm embarrased to say i've never tube fed a calf, was never really shown how and never had the confidence to try it, i just persist with the bottle and if all else fails i will feed with a syringe into the mouth and dribble a little at a time. :(

    I suppose if thats working for you thats the main thing. My vet reckons far more weak calves are drowned by being fed with bottles and syringes than stomach tubes.
    The best advice i got was dont be afraid of it. Be gentle but firm at the same time and let the calf help you by swallowing the tube.
    Once you get past the opening to the lungs it slides in.
    Its always easier with two people. Once you do it a couple of times you'll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I hate doing it, to be honest. That's why I took a refresher course last night. Have a very scoury calf here, that needed to be tubed. Good tip in the video about not having the calf's head straight with it's neck. Also, aiming up rather than down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭ozil10


    I find the Trusti Tuber excellent for stomach tubing calves

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51oCJbgT9O8


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,654 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    ozil10 wrote: »
    I find the Trusti Tuber excellent for stomach tubing calves

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51oCJbgT9O8

    big fan too.a tip for checking that its gone the right way.put you thumb and forefinger either side of the calves wind pipe and touching the area above it you should feel the bulb of tube moving behind the wind pipe not in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Guys, have a calf here with bad scour. She has gone from lying out flat not able to lift her head on Saturday night to now (monday morning) standing up with some help. I've been tubing her homemade electrolyte with some natural yogurt mixed in.
    I was going to tube her milk from the cow (suckler) but it says on the attached not to tube milk, why not?

    Plan was to alternate feeding from electrolyte/yogurt to cows milk only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭cjpm


    IIRC it's because the stomach tube milk goes into the wrong part of the stomach once the calf is 2 or 3 days old. Milk fed by tube is fine on day 1. Stomach tubing electrolytes is fine anytime .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    I think homemade electrolyte is fine where calves aren't bad or in an emergency. There's a lot more science gone into them than you'd expect. Where a calf is bad pay the piper and give it something commercially made..... according to instructions.

    Once they get over a week I'd recommend Duphalyte.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Came home this evening and the calf was up walking around. Let her into cow and she drank for about 10mins.

    Would I keep letting her drink every 8 hours or would it be better to continue giving the electrolyte every 2nd feed for another day?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,055 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Keep going with some electrolyte while she is scouring. Keep going with the yogurt too.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Anyone else have one of these Gewa Stomach Tube Feeders?
    Well, the green cover on the handle came off mine today. Low and behold there is a small hole to let in air underneath. Up to now I kept taking the tube off the bottle to let in some air.
    Not sure how it works, maybe you rotate the green cover.

    https://www.spunhill.co.uk/Products/Calf_Feeders/IGE10F


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