Micky Jackson in trouble again

wakka12 wrote: »

Cant believe people dont think he was a paedophile. Would you believe somebody you knew wasnt a paedophile if 5 boys accused him of abusing them?
Thats before you even think about the fact that he was a middle aged man who exclusively befriended young boys and seemed to stick to them like glue, bringing them everywhere, these boys were strangers why did he want to be friends with them so badly, how many adult men do you know who hang out with children like that? A normal adult cannot be emotionally sustained by the presence of very young children as their main source of friendship

Im so shocked at the amount of people who believe he wasnt a paedophile


If they were just doing it for money wouldnt you see more celebrities being accused of things liek this. Did the women who accused weinstein get any money out of it?

He was far from normal and we know Wade done everything to get money before finally doing this doc.

What substantial evidence did the survivors of child sex abuse from the church bring when half the perpetrators were dead? Did we ask them for video evidence of such crimes from the 60's? Or is it ok to believe those survivors because it was the church?
Many many survivors don't realise they have been groomed and sexuality abused because the brain locks it away, sometimes for a few years, right up to 20, 30, 40 years later, or it's never unlocked at all.
Possibly some people who refuse to even understand a survivor need to research the findings and experiences that trauma councillors and CBT therapists have, to get a tiny inkling of what sexual abuse does to somebody.
The complete ignorance in this thread here, shown to sex abuse survivors, MJ discussion aside, is astounding, and it's no wonder survivors of same feel embarrassed and ashamed to come forward to tell their story.

Trump Is Right wrote: »

Just because some people require hard evidence/facts to substantiate these serious accusations... this does not mean we don't understand the psychological affects and mechanisms of abuse!

You are showing your own ignorance towards other people's knowledge on the subject. Don't make assumptions about what you think other people know or their level of understanding... you really have no clue what other people have been through in their lives or what they have experienced or understand on the subject!

We? Are you writing on behalf of other people on this thread or just yourself?

It is abundantly clear that many on this thread are not knowledgable and are clueless with limited experience as to the effects of abuse and how it can hamper a successful prosecution with traumatised victims tripping up over their own memories.

Might I suggest, that unless clearly stated, you also have no clue as to the lack of understanding on the subject. You can only speak for yourself.

Trump Is Right wrote: »

you really have no clue what other people have been through in their lives or what they have experienced or understand on the subject!

Nah, I have no clue.

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

Theres a new video out of Jackson being deposed in 1996. Worth a look.

I didnt realise that the guy in the Bashir interview is Gavin Alviriz...the guy who made the allegations in the criminal case.

*Arvizo. Yes the documentary sparked the FBI and Child Protective Services investigation into whether Gavin was molested

8-10 wrote: »

*Arvizo. Yes the documentary sparked the FBI and Child Protective Services investigation into whether Gavin was molested

I didnt twig that was the kid. That was footage of him in the documentary, wasnt it? The kid giving a statement to police?

Delighted to know it’s very likely I’ll never hear another song by this piece of .... on Irish radio for a very long time, possibly ever.

Proper order.

Gwynplaine wrote: »

Watched the first part last night, will watch part 2 during the week. A tough watch. How come none of his staff or entourage have come forward with some statements? They surely saw something in all those years.

Maybe because nothing ever happened and therefore, there was nothing to witness.

Hannibal_Smith wrote: »

Ah ok...i didnt realise that.

It’s the only timeline the prosecution could get to fit...that Jackson waited until after the documentary, after the media furore about Arvizo, after the FBI started investigating and during the time that he was being interviewed by Child Protective Services.....that’s the time when they alleged he decided to start abusing him for the very first time.

Imagine being falsely accused of something by the FBI, which the prosecution was saying, and having them investigate you and then saying “oh if they think I was doing this then maybe I can now go do it”. It makes no sense. He was rightly found not guilty in the Arvizo case

Flying Fox wrote: »

Many did, this is a good article listing a ton of them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/michael-jackson-leaving-neverland-allegations-staff-friends-family/amp

No it isn't, she is an absolute fraud.

Flying Fox wrote: »

But many would have signed confidentiality agreements and would have been afraid of the consequences of coming forward, legal and otherwise.

WTF?

The article even states they testified at the trial in 2005?

Flying Fox wrote: »

Note the gang members he employed to 'be seen' around Neverland at the time of the Chandler trial.

Yeah, that conspiracy theory was pushed back then too.

Jackson hired in a gang of "Bloods" from South Central Los Angeles to live in Neverland and intimate the staff. :pac:

She also pushed the CT every chance she got that Jackson kidnapped the Arvizo family and kept them hostage.

Pure Kook.

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Maybe because nothing ever happened and therefore, there was nothing to witness.

Maybe because he planned it so the adults were all at the other side / end if the house. And he had a system to alert him if any one was approaching... Sounds reasonable ...

Watched it over the weekend and, although I'd braced myself, I found it incredibly hard to watch.

He appears to have been far more manipulative and smart than I ever gave him credit for tbh. I'd always been of the mind that he was so damaged from his upbringing and abuse that he was completely cracked mentally. Doesn't seem to have been the case, he knew fine well what he was doing.