Are you a paedophile sympathiser?

Snickers Man · 08-03-2019 09:08PM

Wow! Just came across this with the great Joan Rivers. And I think it's from 2005!!!

Yeah. Nobody knew.

is_that_so · 08-03-2019 09:21PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

If we were serious about shunning the work of artists who became criminals why havent we banned Roman Polanski or why does he seem to get a free pass from the Hollywood elite.

Because he's made some very good films? Chinatown is brilliant.

donkeykong5 · 08-03-2019 09:26PM

Delighted that Phil hoban and predator exposure team got off in court this morning. They are all heroes protecting innocent children from paedophile bastards. They are doing the job that the police and government are paid to do. !

suicide_circus · 08-03-2019 09:28PM

Paedo Sympathizer

Paedothizer

is_that_so · 08-03-2019 09:29PM

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Delighted that Phil hoban and predator exposure team got off in court this morning. They are all heroes protecting innocent children from paedophile bastards. They are doing the job that the police and government are paid to do. !

Until they get it wrong or one of those undesirables top themselves. But you won't care because it doesn't suit your brand of justice.

Spleerbun · 08-03-2019 10:03PM

While I haven't read the infamous article that seems to have everyone in a tizzy I have read the OP and I'm glad I did, great post.

I am fully in favour of the separation of the music/art or whatever from the person. Whether the allegations are true or not in the case of MJ for example, and there will always be those who believe them and who don't, I will continue to listen to his music whenever the mood strikes me. Because it is truly great music, some of the greatest music of all time, even if the allegations were true.

If people disagree with that and would never listen again I can fully understand that.

However it's the idea of completely banning things/whitewashing history and telling others what they can and cannot do or watch or read or listen to that irks me. We've seen other examples of similar behaviour recently with the defamation of statues (and indeed campaigns to take down statues) of historical figures who were perceived to have done something "non-PC". (The fact that their perceived transgressions may have been perfectly PC at the time of doing them seems to be incosequential!). Granted the statue stuff was in the nut house of the USA but we do unfortunately have a tendency to try and imitate them over here.

Anyway, they point being that whether you can separate the art from the person or not it's not up to you to decide that for others as well.

buried · 08-03-2019 10:33PM

When anybody creates a piece of art, its a two way street because the moment you create an artistic work and put it out to a wider audience, the audience effectively now 'owns' the work as well, as it may affect them in whatever way it may do. That's the great thing about art. And you can't limit any artistic works existence on the supposed high or lack of morality of the person who created it. That's just plain utter daft stupid. May as well ban everything. Gaius Julius Caesar wrote books, that's art too. Read 'The Conquest of Gaul', its on penguin classics for f**ks sake. He was responsible for murdering and slaughtering possibly hundreds of thousands of people including kids during his brutal conquests of Europe. He glees in the fact of it. Better ban that stuff too I suppose?

donkeykong5 · 08-03-2019 10:40PM

is_that_so wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Delighted that Phil hoban and predator exposure team got off in court this morning. They are all heroes protecting innocent children from paedophile bastards. They are doing the job that the police and government are paid to do. !

Until they get it wrong or one of those undesirables top themselves. But you won't care because it doesn't suit your brand of justice.

If ciaron craven had been caught in Ireland instead of Leeds by Phil hoban and predator exposure team you know as well as I do that sweet FA would have happened to him. He would have got either a suspended sentence or a friendly warning in court.

BalcombeSt4 · 08-03-2019 10:51PM

Do I sympathise with paedophiles? No.

They actually used to be a lot more brazen then they are now.

A year or two ago, I was reading an article about Dr. Morris Fraser, who was a child Doctor in Belfast and appeared in several documentaries between 1970 - 1975 about the effects of The Troubles had on children. Fraser was convicted of child sexual abuse in 1971 with a boy from Belfast who he brought to London for a weekend, two years later he was busted in New York as part of a international paedophile ring, but the trial collapsed, even with this knowledge he was allowed to work with children alone in private until the mid/late 70's in Belfast. In the 1980's he was a founding member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) in Britain and one of it's main finacial backers. One of PIE's objectives was to lower the age of consent to four years of age. Also in the 80's he helped to distribute child porn around Britain, bringing young boys out on boating trips were he would take naked pictures of them, this was part of his Azimuth Trust charity. As of 2015 he was posting child sex fantasy stories he had written to the internet.

I'm not one for conspiracies but between this & Kincora Boy's Home were children were abused in a strikingly similar manner, taken from Belfast to London on weekends were they were abused by well of & powerful people in high society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GddyL0u24G0

listermint · 08-03-2019 10:57PM

Tune in next week for the next outrage we can all get outraged about.

I'm outraged right now thinking about the outrage.

Let's call it outrage anticipation

Grrrr

donkeykong5 · 08-03-2019 11:16PM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Do I sympathise with paedophiles? No.

Do actually used to be a lot more brazen then they are now.

A year or two ago, I was reading an article about Dr. Morris Fraser, who was a child Doctor in Belfast and appeared in several documentaries between 1970 - 1975 about the effects of The Troubles had on children. Fraser was convicted of child sexual abuse in 1971 with a boy from Belfast who he brought to London for a weekend, two years later he was busted in New York as part of a international paedophile ring, but the trial collapsed, even with this knowledge he was allowed to work with children alone in private until the mid/late 70's in Belfast. In the 1980's he was a founding member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) in Britain and one of it's main finacial backers. One of PIE's objectives was to lower the age of consent to four years of age. Also in the 80's he helped to distribute child porn around Britain, bring youngs out on boating trips were he would take naked pictures of them, this was part of his Azimuth Trust charity. As of 2015 he was posting child sex fantasy stories he had written to the internet.

I'm not one for conspiracies but between this & Kincora Boy's Home were children were abused in a strikingly similar manner, taken from Belfast to London on weekends were they were abused by well of & powerful people in high society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GddyL0u24G0

Ffs. Seriously!

Are you a paedophile sympathiser?

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