Ditching the make up

Prominent_Dawg · 07-03-2019 03:40PM #1

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/aer-lingus-drops-requirement-for-female-cabin-crew-to-wear-makeup-909368.html But they all look so put together and well presented

Ariadne · 07-03-2019 03:45PM

Sounds good to me, I don't see why it should be a requirement. It should be optional for all professions.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 07-03-2019 03:47PM

Let the pilots wear t shirts and tracksuit bottoms.

retro:electro · 07-03-2019 03:47PM

I don’t care either way but their make up was always so heavily applied. It genuinely looked like cement on the skin and to have to be that glam every day at all hours of the morning sounds like a nightmare. Not to mention flying with make up on feels like the grossest thing ever and is the cause of many spots and skin issues.

Dial Hard · 07-03-2019 04:05PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Let the pilots wear t shirts and tracksuit bottoms.

Yes, because that's directly comparable.

jimgoose · 07-03-2019 04:10PM

It's a bit old-hat and downright sexist, forcing women to wear make-up on the job. Fair play and about time.

orourkeda1977 · 07-03-2019 04:12PM

I'm sure there's no shortage of "facials" when the pilot gets his hands on them.

jam_mac_jam · 07-03-2019 04:14PM

Amazing it has taken this long. Pathetic rule. Nothing to do with their jobs. They usually look completely overdone anyway.

meeeeh · 07-03-2019 04:21PM

I find rules around uniforms a bit ridiculous. Those blody heeled shoes are another issue. We are happy with waitresses serving us in runners, yet stewardesess are supposed wipe puke, manhandle drunken passengers and dish out food and drinks in heels. Sometimes during turbulence.

dudara · 07-03-2019 04:24PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I find rules around uniforms a bit ridiculous. Those blody heeled shoes are another issue. We are happy with waitresses serving us in runners, yet stewardesess are supposed wipe puke, manhandle drunken passengers and dish out food and drinks in heels. Sometimes during turbulence.

They generally switch to flat shoes for in-flight service. Heels are worn at the start and end of flights only.

This is a good move. A heavy layer of slap isn’t required to be smart and presentable for the job. And it’s also a good move on the “mix and match” uniforms. KLM have been doing this for years and their uniforms look great.

jam_mac_jam · 07-03-2019 04:24PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I find rules around uniforms a bit ridiculous. Those blody heeled shoes are another issue. We are happy with waitresses serving us in runners, yet stewardesess are supposed wipe puke, manhandle drunken passengers and dish out food and drinks in heels. Sometimes during turbulence.

Yes, its completely ridiculous and dangerous to wear heels when they are on their feet for hours. They are professionals and not just dolly birds to bring you drinks.

Big Words · 07-03-2019 04:25PM

The smell of BO will be overwhelming now. At least their duty free samples were keeping the aroma at bay.

Big Words · 07-03-2019 04:26PM

dudara wrote: »

They generally switch to flat shoes for in-flight service. Heels are worn at the start and end of flights only.

Knee high boots is what they wear now.

KikiLaRue · 07-03-2019 04:28PM

Big Words wrote: »

The smell of BO will be overwhelming now. At least their duty free samples were keeping the aroma at bay.

Because women who don't wear makeup don't shower?

Prominent_Dawg · 07-03-2019 04:33PM

retro:electro wrote: »

I don’t care either way but their make up was always so heavily applied. It genuinely looked like cement on the skin and to have to be that glam every day at all hours of the morning sounds like a nightmare. Not to mention flying with make up on feels like the grossest thing ever and is the cause of many spots and skin issues.

I agree a lot go overboard with it, I've seen this especially on Aer Lingus recently even going to the extreme of fake lashes, long embellished fake nails, layers of tan lines, which I don't think is a good look, but I do like the way emirates use it as part of the uniformed look and are thought how to apply it subtly with a uniformed staple lip

meeeeh · 07-03-2019 04:45PM

dudara wrote: »

They generally switch to flat shoes for in-flight service. Heels are worn at the start and end of flights only.

Do they? I actually didn't notice that but isn't it a bit ridiculous that you need separate shoes to say hello or good bye?

I wear make up daily, I love heels but not every woman does and more importantly needs to. Why would someone with gorgeous skin and beautiful eyes need to slap on something that has no benefit for their skin.

As a fashion addict I also think many of the uniforms are dated (including men's).

KikiLaRue · 07-03-2019 04:48PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Why would someone with gorgeous skin and beautiful eyes need to slap on something that has no benefit for their skin.

I have normal skin and normal eyes. Am I cool to go without makeup?

....... · 07-03-2019 04:51PM

Trolly dolly used to be seen as a sort of prestigious job that only very good looking and well spoken women would be selected for - with the wonderful perk of seeing the world at a time when travel was prohibitively expensive. The clientele on planes were upper class, monied, genteel types that expected a cultured and attractive woman taking care of them on their flights.

But travel is significantly cheaper now and Jonno from the flats is likely to be skulling a flagon on his way to the airport and not capable of appreciating a bit of well groomed posh totty looking after him.

So all the silly sexist rules are no longer appropriate.

Stark · 07-03-2019 04:54PM

"New policy will take effect from November". Got to love the pace of change at some companies. It's not like it's a complex decision to implement.

meeeeh wrote: »

As a fashion addict I also think many of the uniforms are dated (including men's).

They got Louise Kennedy to redesign the uniform last year https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/aer-lingus-crew-to-get-sartorial-upgrade-1.3427409 . Looks quite nice imo though I'm no fashion expert

Seems to be taking at least 18 months to actually phase it in though. No idea if they redesigned the men's version.

Your Face · 07-03-2019 04:56PM

I will always remember where I was when this historic statute was enacted.

Prominent_Dawg · 07-03-2019 04:57PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Do they? I actually didn't notice that but isn't it a bit ridiculous that you need separate shoes to say hello or good bye?

I wear make up daily, I love heels but not every woman does and more importantly needs to. Why would someone with gorgeous skin and beautiful eyes need to slap on something that has no benefit for their skin.

As a fashion addict I also think many of the uniforms are dated (including men's).

Their in a skirt suit which if you ask me looks much better worn with heels than flats.. love the idea of introducing optional clothing, however not sure it's going to improve the look as their uniform is already horrific

jimgoose · 07-03-2019 04:58PM

Prominent_Dawg wrote: »

Their in a skirt suit which if you ask me looks much better worn with heels than flats...

What we're really talking about here is women's legs. That elegant curve of the calf and delicate ankle, which looks fantastic in the right pair of heels. :cool:

KikiLaRue · 07-03-2019 04:59PM

jimgoose wrote: »

What we're really talking about here is women's legs. That elegant curve of the calf and delicate ankle, which looks fantastic in the right pair of heels. :cool:

And what's health and safety compared with the possibility of a semi on a morning flight?

meeeeh · 07-03-2019 05:00PM

jimgoose wrote: »

What we're really talking about here is women's legs. That elegant curve of the calf and delicate ankle, which looks fantastic in the right pair of heels. :cool:

There is a zero chance of Aerlingus or Ryanair stewardess wearing the right pair of heels.

Mrs OBumble · 07-03-2019 05:01PM

Succubus_ wrote: »

Sounds good to me, I don't see why it should be a requirement. It should be optional for all professions.

Plenty of jobs where its banned, or should be.

Zorya · 07-03-2019 05:01PM

Prominent_Dawg wrote: »

I agree a lot go overboard with it, I've seen this especially on Aer Lingus recently even going to the extreme of fake lashes, long embellished fake nails, layers of tan lines,...

And that's just the guys, right? :pac:

jimgoose · 07-03-2019 05:03PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

And what's health and safety compared with the possibility of a semi on a morning flight?

Sorry I opened my mouth, like! I take it heels don't suit you? :pac::pac::pac:

KikiLaRue · 07-03-2019 05:06PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Sorry I opened my mouth, like! I take it heels don't suit you? :pac::pac::pac:

Yes, that's the only possible reason I could have made that tongue-in-cheek comment.

jimgoose · 07-03-2019 05:11PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

Yes, that's the only possible reason I could have made that tongue-in-cheek comment.

I don't care if air stewards wear wellingtons, I was talking about the female leg in general, a member which pleases me a great deal. Live long, and prosper. :cool:

Tacklebox · 07-03-2019 05:14PM

I remember back in the mid 90's friends of mine started working as cabin crew for the Airline and they were annoyed at the amount of make up they had been made to wear.

Some developed bad skin and there was extremes where they hadn't enough on and had to go back and plaster on more...

The cabin crew career wasn't as glamorous as it looked, thats for sure

Prominent_Dawg · 07-03-2019 05:41PM

jimgoose wrote: »

What we're really talking about here is women's legs. That elegant curve of the calf and delicate ankle, which looks fantastic in the right pair of heels. :cool:

Speak for yourself.

Ditching the make up

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