Bloody Sunday paratrooper says he feels no guilt

steddyeddy · 06-03-2019 07:55PM #1

He also considers the day itself to be "a job well done" even though he acknowledges at least some of the victims were innocent. Is this British view of the troubles still completely at odds with our own?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47466460

This comes as karen bradley states that killing by soldiers are not crimes.

The sister of a man killed on Bloody Sunday has described a former soldier's comments on the shootings as "very cold and very brutal".

Thirteen people died on the day after troops opened fire in Londonderry in January 1972, and a 14th person died later from his injuries.

The former paratrooper told the BBC that he feels no guilt for what happened.

He said he still considers it a job well done.

The Saville Inquiry into the killings concluded that all the victims were innocent.

Speaking to the BBC's Peter Taylor, Sergeant 'O' said that Lord Saville was not there on the day and whilst he accepted that some of those who were killed were innocent he did not accept that all of the victims were innocent.

'Cold and brutal'
Kate Nash, whose 19-year-old brother William was shot dead described the soldier's comments as cold and as a lie.

"What a horrible lie to continue to stand by, even as you become an older person.

"Very cold and very brutal."

Eighteen ex-paratroopers have been reported to the PPS over the killings and the Bloody Sunday victims are currently waiting to hear if any will face charges.

Church on Tuesday · 06-03-2019 07:57PM

Well that particular 'soldier' should hang his head in shame.

lawred2 · 06-03-2019 07:58PM

And with Karen Brady today stating that she doesn't consider killings by British security forces in NI to be crimes one would be lead to believe that there is definitely an element who still see little issue with British behavior in Ireland.

06-03-2019 07:58PM

Callous individual expresses no remorse. Quelle surprise.

Edgware · 06-03-2019 07:59PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

He also considers the day itself to be "a job well done" even though he acknowledges at least some of the victims were innocent. Is this British view of the troubles still completely at odds with our own?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47466460

I have no doubt but plenty of our own "freedom fighters" haven't an ounce of remorse for Birmingham, Enniskillen, The Hanna Family massacre etc.
Dirtbirds are dirtbirds whatever flag they operate under

Harry Palmr · 06-03-2019 08:00PM

Sure let's hear from the Provos and see their level on the Remorse-o-meter.

lawred2 · 06-03-2019 08:00PM

Edgware wrote: »

I have no doubt but plenty of our own "freedom fighters" haven't an ounce of remorse for Birmingham, Enniskillen, The Hanna Family massacre etc.
Dirtbirds are dirtbirds whatever flag they operate under

whataboutery didn't take too long

our 'dirtbirds' weren't operating on behalf of the Irish state though

orourkeda1977 · 06-03-2019 08:01PM

Anyone surprised?

TheValeyard · 06-03-2019 08:02PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Sure let's hear from the Provos and see their level on the Remorse-o-meter.

Difference between illegal rebels forces and State sanctioned trained Killers.

Edgware · 06-03-2019 08:03PM

lawred2 wrote: »

whataboutery didn't take too long

our 'dirtbirds' weren't operating on behalf of the Irish state though

They claimed they were operating on behalf of the people.

Junkyard Tom · 06-03-2019 08:03PM

Two instances of whataboutery in less than 6 posts. Is that a record?

FrancieBrady · 06-03-2019 08:04PM

lawred2 wrote: »

And with Karen Brady today stating that she doesn't consider killings by British security forces in NI to be crimes one would be lead to believe that there is definitely an element who still see little issue with British behavior in Ireland.

There are a few in our own country who still think that all the oppression, butchering and collusion with their planted friends was for our own good, benefit and betterment - 'look at all the lovely buildings they left us'

'Bombing people into the acceptance of their gifts'...as somebody said of the US, this guy seems to be of similar ilk. Didn't hear of the Bradley one...when did she say that?

lawred2 · 06-03-2019 08:04PM

Edgware wrote: »

They claimed they were operating on behalf of the people.

what's your point?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 06-03-2019 08:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Callous individual expresses no remorse. Quelle surprise.

Exactly. I’d say there are killers of innocents on both sides who feel no remorse, tbh.

I’m sure I’ll be called a whatabout-er. But I’m not a very political person. It just bothers me when innocent civilians are killed, no matter what the cause.

super_furry · 06-03-2019 08:05PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Sure let's hear from the Provos and see their level on the Remorse-o-meter.

Didn't realise it was a competition.

Harry Palmr · 06-03-2019 08:05PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Difference between illegal rebels forces and State sanctioned trained Killers.

That difference means they should be held to account but it doesn't mean the individual would think any different to a member of the P-IRA or UVF. The only thing you can debate is whether such people should have been screened out of the military.

Well guess what - it's an army (in the early 70s). Not the social services.

buried · 06-03-2019 08:06PM

Hopefully all these hoors end up in Hell getting sodomised by a life sized cenotaph pagan obelisk for eternity

RobertKK · 06-03-2019 08:07PM

Murder is murder, and the British state is up to it's neck in murder when it comes to the troubles. Terrorism committed by a nation state is in no way acceptable compared to an outlawed terrorist organisation.
All are equally guilty when they commit the same crime.

Edgware · 06-03-2019 08:07PM

lawred2 wrote: »

what's your point?

Whats your point?

steddyeddy · 06-03-2019 08:07PM

lawred2 wrote: »

And with Karen Brady today stating that she doesn't consider killings by British security forces in NI to be crimes one would be lead to believe that there is definitely an element who still see little issue with British behavior in Ireland.

Yes I seen that earlier and now have added that to the original post.

steddyeddy · 06-03-2019 08:09PM

Edgware wrote: »

I have no doubt but plenty of our own "freedom fighters" haven't an ounce of remorse for Birmingham, Enniskillen, The Hanna Family massacre etc.
Dirtbirds are dirtbirds whatever flag they operate under

Indeed but does our state cover up for them?

lawred2 · 06-03-2019 08:10PM

Edgware wrote: »

Whats your point?

alright pal - you've had your fun

06-03-2019 08:14PM

And yet there are plenty in Britain who will demand that this man is never brought before a court

PopePalpatine · 06-03-2019 08:15PM

riffmongous wrote: »

And yet there are plenty in Britain who will demand that this man is never brought before a court

Gammon: not even once.

jippo nolan · 06-03-2019 08:17PM

lawred2 wrote: »

And with Karen Brady today stating that she doesn't consider killings by British security forces in NI to be crimes one would be lead to believe that there is definitely an element who still see little issue with British behavior in Ireland.

It’s called the softening up process for news to come!

Edgware · 06-03-2019 08:18PM

lawred2 wrote: »

alright pal - you've had your fun

Alright pal-you've had your fun

steddyeddy · 06-03-2019 08:21PM

riffmongous wrote: »

And yet there are plenty in Britain who will demand that this man is never brought before a court

Yea I live over in England. There's substantial amount that think they did no wrong. Approximately the same amount of people who think leaving the EU will be a good idea....

eagle eye · 06-03-2019 08:21PM

Church on Tuesday wrote:

Well that particular 'soldier' should hang his head in shame.

Or just be hanged.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 06-03-2019 08:28PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Two instances of whataboutery in less than 6 posts. Is that a record?

Sure the IRA were voted in by the Irish people weren't they. If it wasn't for the brave Winston Churchill, Martin Adams and Gerry McGuiness would have never bent the knee to the queen.

Rule Britannia!!!

Edgware · 06-03-2019 08:30PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Yea I live over in England. There's substantial amount that think they did no wrong. Approximately the same amount of people who think leaving the EU will be a good idea....

52% voted for Brexit. Just because Paddy the slave of Europe thinks its a bad idea doesnt necessarily mean that it is. If we had a Border Poll in the morning with a 52% Yes to a united Ireland Paddy would be very quick demanding that the democratic wish of the people be recognised

Augme · 06-03-2019 08:30PM

I hope people remember this the next time the poppy issue comes up about James McClean and anyone else who refuses to wear it.

Bloody Sunday paratrooper says he feels no guilt

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