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Will Smith not black enough!!!

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  • #62
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    kneemos wrote: »
    Like a northern European playing a Mediterranean?

    Still white.

    It doesn't overly happen though does it? I kind of get the issue tbh, if white actor is picked for the role their skin tone will be taken into consideration. Antonio Banderas won't play Churchill and Picasso would not be played by Gary Oldmam, yet all black people are just considered black.


  • #63
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Was just thinking good aul Willy SMith - is probably the last decent clean living role model for young black men to aspire to.
    Back in the 80's it might of been Billy Cosby, or OJSimpson, 50-pence, MJackson - but look how they turned out.

    Is there anyone else? I.e. That doesn't thow balls, shoot hoops or get all MC shouty, about their many batches and whoes?
    You might say Barry o' Barma, but then what did he actually do, apart from get a Nobel peace prize just for showing up.


  • #64
    derm0j073
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    Crystal Uneven River wrote: »
    Is there anyone else? I.e. That doesn't thow balls, shoot hoops or get all MC shouty, about their many batches ....

    Is old Mr. Brennan black?


  • #65
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It doesn't overly happen though does it? I kind of get the issue tbh, if white actor is picked for the role their skin tone will be taken into consideration. Antonio Banderas won't play Churchill and Picasso would not be played by Gary Oldmam, yet all black people are just considered black.

    White people don't use such claims as an insult though. Whereas in the black community there are huge tensions around being light skinned black as opposed to dark skinned black.

    For example, if I said Kevin Spacey wasn't a good choice to play The General as he looked nothing like him, that wouldn't be seen as being racially charged or an insult in any way.

    I can remember Mariah Carey saying in an interview that she got a hard time growing up from other black kids cause she was light skinned. Indeed, the same thing happens with music. Whiteny Houston was boo'd at the Black Entertainment awards as it was felt the way she sang was not black enough.

    Some of the most racist crap black people have to endure comes from within their own community.


  • #66
    Dyr
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    Crystal Uneven River wrote: »

    Is there anyone else? I.e. That doesn't thow balls, shoot hoops or get all MC shouty, about their many batches and whoes?
    You might say Barry o' Barma, but then what did he actually do, apart from get a Nobel peace prize just for showing up.

    Made ****e of the Middle East

    Mr T set a fine example for the Black Youth I feel

    And that Denzel chappie


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  • #67
    steamsey
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    Can confirm aul Mr Brennan is a straight up honky


  • #68
    Amirani
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    It doesn't overly happen though does it? I kind of get the issue tbh, if white actor is picked for the role their skin tone will be taken into consideration. Antonio Banderas won't play Churchill and Picasso would not be played by Gary Oldmam, yet all black people are just considered black.

    It happens in theatre quite a lot. Casting tends to be much more race-blind. I've seen many white characters played by black and hispanic actors and vice-versa.

    I don't see why it's a problem unless it's constant theme of excluding certain race and skin types from roles. Idris Elba played Nelson Mandela despite having a darker skin tone, so there are examples of it going both ways.


  • #69
    jimgoose
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    You know, the Williams sisters look like (a very ugly) Michelle Pfeiffer beside such gorgeous creatures like Khoudia Diop and Nyakim Gatwech.


  • #70
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Amirani wrote: »
    It happens in theatre quite a lot. Casting tends to be much more race-blind. I've seen many white characters played by black and hispanic actors and vice-versa.

    That's a bit different because they are made up characters but when they are casting for people who are still alive or historical personalities we know how they looked like, they usually go for basic similarities. Even when we don't overly know how someone looked like there can be a few complaints. I remember quite a few giggles when Alksender the Great looked like Collin Farrell and spoke with thick irish accent.

    I just think outrage about outrage is a bit unnecessary.


  • #71
    Avatar MIA
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    Could Will, you know, Black Up?


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  • #72
    professore
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    He just needs to identify as more black. Problem solved.


  • #73
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    In the USA, there is an ongoing discussion of skin tone by African Americans.
    Most commonly its known as light skinned and dark skinned, the debate ranges around how more light skinned black people have better opportunities and doors opened for them.
    This is just a case of this that is in the media.

    This division goes back decades. Muhammad Ali took swipes at Joe Frazier for being a dark skinned blackman, even going as far as using racial slurs on him.

    What he did was said to have upset Frazier something fierce and the prick never had the decency to apologise to him .


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