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Will Smith not black enough!!!

  • 05-03-2019 1:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭


    So a new documentary about the Williams sisters has will Smith potentially cast as their father. Now there is an online backlash, or can I say blacklash, that Will's skin tone is not black enough!!

    As somebody said before how a generation raised on family guy, American dad ettc etc can become so butt hurt over the most stupid things is truly beyond me. This is a new level of pathetic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Race is a social construct. What they mean is he acts too white.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Race is a social construct. What they mean is he acts too white.:pac:

    if you not from the hood you ain't no good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Same thing was leveled against Obama by some activists. You are always going to have outrage junkies that need something complain and protest about to justify their use of oxygen.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    All I know is will smith don't got to cus in his raps to sell records, but I do, so fúck will smith and fúck you too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    All these people talk about MLK as if he is their savior but their deeds and words are regularly in direct contrast with almost everything the man stood for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭EPAndlee


    It's probably because he makes non offensive rap music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,727 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    racso1975 wrote: »
    So a new documentary about the Williams sisters has will Smith potentially cast as their father. Now there is an online backlash, or can I say blacklash, that Will's skin tone is not black enough!!

    As somebody said before how a generation raised on family guy, American dad ettc etc can become so butt hurt over the most stupid things is truly beyond me. This is a new level of pathetic

    Butt hurt. Groan.

    Who is outraged? 3 people on Twitter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Same thing was leveled against Obama by some activists.

    Obama was touted to play the father of Venus & Serena Williams in a film??? Really???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Same thing was leveled against Obama by some activists. You are always going to have outrage junkies that need something complain and protest about to justify their use of oxygen.

    Obama was a mixed race president. It seemed in his case people were happy to ignore 50 percent of his racial construct. To say he was the first black president is just wrong and ignorant to the facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Liamario


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Obama was touted to play the father of Venus & Serena Williams in a film??? Really???

    No, there people saying that he wasn't really a black American president.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    Butt hurt. Groan.

    Who is outraged? 3 people on Twitter?

    Yeah, not even a link ffs. This thread is the first I've heard of this particular outrage.

    There are probably more people outraged in this thread than wherever the OP saw this originally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Dingaan wrote: »
    Obama was a mixed race president. It seemed in his case people were happy to ignore 50 percent of his racial construct. To say he was the first black president is just wrong and ignorant to the facts.


    Was he white?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Some sports writer in the states appears to have kicked it off with the following tweet:

    https://twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/1102807701174865920


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    kneemos wrote: »
    Was he white?

    50 percent White.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Dingaan wrote: »
    Obama was a mixed race president. It seemed in his case people were happy to ignore 50 percent of his racial construct. To say he was the first black president is just wrong and ignorant to the facts.

    Why? Who was the first?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Will-Smith-as-Genie-blue-in-Aladdin.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Dingaan wrote: »
    50 percent White.

    50 percent black.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    Why? Who was the first?

    We are still waiting for the first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Please. Just pass me the virus vile. I’ll pop the cap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭Stab*City


    kneemos wrote: »
    50 percent black.

    100% Mixed.. yay you two!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Liamario wrote: »
    No, there people saying that he wasn't really a black American president.

    Obama put a swing set on the front lawn of the White House. That some Niggah shit right there - he from the Hood. :cool:

    I misinterpreted the OP as meaning that a new documentary was to reveal that Will Smith actually was the Williams sisters' father. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭ohfa6muwtsvkc1


    I kinda get it tbh. Casting a lighter skinned person in that role is like the trend of bleaching via surgery or photoshop that celebs such as Beyonce do. We need to reenforce the message that you don't need to be white!

    If you were making a film on Paul McGrath, you wouldn't hire me for the role even though we're both Irish. he's a shade darker and it's the same with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Watched Luke cage and a character mentioned someone being "colour struck", had to google that and oh boy.

    This isn't a recent snowflake millennium thing, that's probably just made it worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Their dad? Will Smith looks younger than them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1489889/characters/nm0366389
    Bob Stone : Wow, Jet! You look amazing!

    Calvin Joyner : You think?

    Bob Stone : Oh, what? Yes!

    Calvin Joyner : I just didn't know the kind of look to go for on my first day at the Agency.

    Bob Stone : You look like a black Will Smith, or something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Sean Connery played a Russian submarine captain with nothing more than a slightly altered Scottish accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    kneemos wrote: »
    Sean Connery played a Russian submarine captain with nothing more than a slightly altered Scottish accent.


    Slightly altered accent my arse. Jump to the 0.58-second mark.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    If Scarlett Johansson plays Venus then Will Smith will be black enough. Problem solved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Venom wrote: »
    Slightly altered accent my arse. Jump to the 0.58-second mark.





    Alright,pure Scottish.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    It gets more ridiculous by the day. Has there ever been a more sensitive bunch in human history?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    Do you think they know that acting is mostly just pretending ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    If Scarlett Johansson plays Venus then Will Smith will be black enough. Problem solved

    Genius. And Brigitte Nielsen as Serena.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    Do you think they know that acting is mostly just pretending ?


    Well, even some longtime actors such as Meryl Streep are even confused over what they do!




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I kinda get it tbh. Casting a lighter skinned person in that role is like the trend of bleaching via surgery or photoshop that celebs such as Beyonce do. We need to reenforce the message that you don't need to be white!

    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?

    This all at the same time that people are talking about a black actor playing James Bond, who is white in the source literature (which I have no issue with). Cognitive dissonance galore.

    You either consider skin colour an important differential factor or you don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭ohfa6muwtsvkc1


    Amirani wrote: »
    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?

    If RTE commissioned a series about travellers and cast it all with settled people, there would be outrage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Amirani wrote: »
    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?...

    What, like Alexander Skarsgård playing Al Pacino in some future biopic? That's what's known in the trade as fuckan stoopid. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    Colorism....? FFS.......


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    In the USA, there is an ongoing discussion of skin tone by African Americans.
    Most commonly its known as light skinned and dark skinned, the debate ranges around how more light skinned black people have better opportunities and doors opened for them.
    This is just a case of this that is in the media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Amirani wrote: »
    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?

    This all at the same time that people are talking about a black actor playing James Bond, who is white in the source literature (which I have no issue with). Cognitive dissonance galore.

    You either consider skin colour an important differential factor or you don't.


    Like a northern European playing a Mediterranean?

    Still white.

    As Will Smith and the William's are black.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Can you find any examples of real people who matter, who have made this complaint, or this is made-up outrage again?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,420 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Could one of the Williams sisters not play the part of thier own father ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    In the USA, there is an ongoing discussion of skin tone by African Americans.
    Most commonly its known as light skinned and dark skinned, the debate ranges around how more light skinned black people have better opportunities and doors opened for them.
    This is just a case of this that is in the media.

    It's been going on for at least 15 years. I can remember American chat shows where lighter skinned black people were saying they wouldn't marry a very dark black American.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    In the USA, there is an ongoing discussion of skin tone by African Americans.
    Most commonly its known as light skinned and dark skinned, the debate ranges around how more light skinned black people have better opportunities and doors opened for them.
    This is just a case of this that is in the media.

    All of this shoite starts in the US of the America's.
    It started with dog grooming and breakfast on the patio,we laughed.

    Well...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Ush1 wrote: »
    It's been going on for at least 15 years. I can remember American chat shows where lighter skinned black people were saying they wouldn't marry a very dark black American.

    Isn't that... like... y'know... racist, an' shiz-nit?? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Could one of the Williams sisters not play the part of thier own father ?

    If they can make Sam Jackson look like he did 20 years ago in Captain Marvel, surely they have the technology for this :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    kneemos wrote: »
    All of this shoite starts in the US of the America's.
    It started with dog grooming and breakfast on the patio,we laughed.

    Well...

    Not just the US, most of Asia too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Same thing was leveled against Obama by some activists. You are always going to have outrage junkies that need something complain and protest about to justify their use of oxygen.

    Stephen Fry one said he asked a kenyan what it was like seeing a black man with kenyan ancestry in the white house. the kenyan replied that if Obama was the leader of kenya he would have been the first white leader of Kenya.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Ush1 wrote: »
    It's been going on for at least 15 years. I can remember American chat shows where lighter skinned black people were saying they wouldn't marry a very dark black American.


    It's going on since the days of slavery!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    It's going on since the days of slavery!

    Yup. Lighter skin, in the house. Darker skin, in the fields.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Grayson wrote: »
    Stephen Fry one said he asked a kenyan what it was like seeing a black man with kenyan ancestry in the white house. the kenyan replied that if Obama was the leader of kenya he would have been the first white leader of Kenya.

    Reminds me of a sketch that Chris Rock done years ago about Tiger Woods. He went to a black neighbourhood and loads of the kids had taken up golf and were hoping to be like Tiger Woods.

    Then he went to an Asian neighbourhood and they just looked at him funny; "Tiger Woods? He's just some black guy":pac:


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