Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018/2019

05-03-2019 12:15PM

DM_7 wrote: »

I agree with the above. It makes it even more important to get the next manager selected.

Some big decisions are needed about recruitment and departures. Players leaving will have a huge influence on what needs to be brought in.

Will forever be a worry for me with Woodward and the board at the helm making these decisions.
Nothing has changed on that front for me in years.

Look at the positives that Woodward has in front of him since Ole has put in a serious 'interview' for the job.

If Ole is kept on, and I think at this stage it's looking highly likely I really do wish he gets the backing of whatever players he wants in and out of the club.

I'd love to know who made the decision to not give Valencia a new contract as an example (an absolute legend whoever he is)

It did seem like a footballing decision for a change instead of a business one so for me having a guess it leans more towards Ole and his staff saying 'get rid of Valencia' as opposed to Woodward saying "Valencia is part of my sponsorship deal, we need him"

pjohnson · 05-03-2019 12:15PM

The 20 heading to Paris.

OUR CONFIRMED TRAVELLING SQUAD

De Gea, Romero, Grant; Bailly, Dalot, Lindelof, Rojo, Shaw, Smalling, Williams, Young; Fred, Garner, Gomes, McTominay, Pereira; Chong, Greenwood, Lukaku, Rashford.

05-03-2019 12:18PM

pjohnson wrote: »

The 20 heading to Paris.

OUR CONFIRMED TRAVELLING SQUAD

De Gea, Romero, Grant; Bailly, Dalot, Lindelof, Rojo, Shaw, Smalling, Williams, Young; Fred, Garner, Gomes, McTominay, Pereira; Chong, Greenwood, Lukaku, Rashford.

That is a youthful squad no doubt about it.
Hope we can give some opportunities and have a real go. Nothing to lose.
But don't want us getting hammered either. No point knocking the confidance of a heap of young lads.
I can see a 5 man midfield and Lukaku up top.

Sebastian Dangerfield · 05-03-2019 12:19PM

pjohnson wrote: »

The 20 heading to Paris.

OUR CONFIRMED TRAVELLING SQUAD

De Gea, Romero, Grant; Bailly, Dalot, Lindelof, Rojo, Shaw, Smalling, Williams, Young; Fred, Garner, Gomes, McTominay, Pereira; Chong, Greenwood, Lukaku, Rashford.

Diamond of McT, Fred, Dalot and Pereira, with Lukaku and Rashford up top?

Adamcp898 · 05-03-2019 12:23PM

pjohnson wrote: »

The 20 heading to Paris.

OUR CONFIRMED TRAVELLING SQUAD

De Gea, Romero, Grant; Bailly, Dalot, Lindelof, Rojo, Shaw, Smalling, Williams, Young; Fred, Garner, Gomes, McTominay, Pereira; Chong, Greenwood, Lukaku, Rashford.

I'd settle now for a loss on the night if it's a positive performance.

Slightly worried about what they could do to us as home given the midfield we're going to put out there. Could be a long old night considering they'll come at us from the off this time instead of hanging back for a half.

05-03-2019 12:23PM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

I'd settle now for a loss on the night if it's a positive performance.

Slightly worried about what they could do to us as home given the midfield we're going to put out there. Could be a long old night considering they'll come at us from the off this time instead of hanging back for a half.

Might suit us better if that happens IMO

Adamcp898 · 05-03-2019 12:27PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

Might suit us better if that happens IMO

I don't see being able to deal with it any better than we did at OT though. They get a couple of early goals and it could turn into a nightmarish night.

bangkok · 05-03-2019 01:05PM

After seeing the travelling squad i fear a hammering for us. Wont take away anything from what ole has done for us though

xtal191 · 05-03-2019 01:13PM

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1102902098985926656

yabadabado · 05-03-2019 01:14PM

Weepsie wrote: »

I'd liked to have seen Fulham do better, to see what Sessegnon is really capable of but they've been poor.

He'd be a cheaper option than Sancho probably and might need to move to kick on a bit. He'd cover 2 positions too. That said, another year in the championship and he could improve a lot again.

Isnt Sessegnon a left sided player and has played very few games on the right hand side I dont see any real reason for United to be buying him.

GSPfan · 05-03-2019 01:26PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

And some folks saying get rid of Lukaku, are ya mad. He's only 25 and already in the top 20 list.

Who said get rid of Lukaku?

05-03-2019 02:52PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Who said get rid of Lukaku?

I've read folk on here before and on twitter multiple times.

Necro · 05-03-2019 02:59PM

GSPfan wrote:

Who said get rid of Lukaku?

Sad that despite reaching double figures for goals in each of the last seven seasons Lukaku by some will never be deemed good enough.

I find it bizarre, only a select few have the goalscoring capabilities on a consistent regular basis of Lukaku in the PL.

Those few being Kane and Aguero. That's it.

There's a few in tiers below him that are getting there (Aubemayang, Salah, just off the top of my head) but makes no sense to me that people want to get rid of him, particularly now he's started to show glimpses of being back to his best in recent games.

All_in_Flynn · 05-03-2019 03:06PM

Necro wrote: »

Sad that despite reaching double figures for goals in each of the last seven seasons Lukaku by some will never be deemed good enough.

I find it bizarre, only a select few have the goalscoring capabilities on a consistent regular basis of Lukaku in the PL.

Those few being Kane and Aguero. That's it.

There's a few in tiers below him that are getting there (Aubemayang, Salah, just off the top of my head) but makes no sense to me that people want to get rid of him, particularly now he's started to show glimpses of being back to his best in recent games.

No doubt or argument that Lukaku is a consistent goal scorer and a very good one at that.

I do feel however that he is not good enough to play the way the team wants to when everyone is fit. His link and hold up play are not good enough.

It’s relatively easy to see when we have a front 3 of martial rashford and Lingard that the teams attacking shape is much better than when Lukaku is in the team.

I’d be more than happy for him to remain at the club but he is not first choice striker when everyone is fit imo.

05-03-2019 03:08PM

bangkok wrote: »

Ndombele would sort us there.

de Ligt for cb

Then throw crazy money for mbappe... get agent pogba on the case

"agent pogba" would jump ship to PSG at a moment's notice in this scenario.

05-03-2019 03:13PM

Necro wrote: »

Sad that despite reaching double figures for goals in each of the last seven seasons Lukaku by some will never be deemed good enough.

I find it bizarre, only a select few have the goalscoring capabilities on a consistent regular basis of Lukaku in the PL.

Those few being Kane and Aguero. That's it.

There's a few in tiers below him that are getting there (Aubemayang, Salah, just off the top of my head) but makes no sense to me that people want to get rid of him, particularly now he's started to show glimpses of being back to his best in recent games.

Aubameyang and Salah are a good bit better than him tbh.

Not that I think Lukaku should be gotten rid of. I don't think he's a top striker but he has shown ability to get goals against the bottom 14 teams which is something that United have struggled with at a lot of times since Fergie left.

He does have the right attitude but that only goes so far and his big game record lets him down. Against top defences he struggles but he can be invaluable against the lower teams when deployed correctly.

GSPfan · 05-03-2019 03:21PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

I've read folk on here before and on twitter multiple times.

Do you think there’s a chance that he might be sold to fund a right wing forward and to allow Greenwood a chance to move up?

Do you think if he stays he will accept life on the bench or in rotation?

I have a feeling he would be sacrificed to fund a right wing forward and I think he will want to move if he isn’t starting. That’s my opinion of the situation but I’m not asking for him to be sold.

DM_7 · 05-03-2019 03:26PM

Liam O wrote: »

Aubameyang and Salah are a good bit better than him tbh.

Not that I think Lukaku should be gotten rid of. I don't think he's a top striker but he has shown ability to get goals against the bottom 14 teams which is something that United have struggled with at a lot of times since Fergie left.

He does have the right attitude but that only goes so far and his big game record lets him down. Against top defences he struggles but he can be invaluable against the lower teams when deployed correctly.

If Lukaku is not top class then neither is Auba as has little influence on team play.

ericzeking · 05-03-2019 03:26PM

I'd be limiting the number of outgoings, we are stretched at the moment with a few injuries. Numbers wise I would only let Valencia and a centre back (Rojo) go, I try and keep Darmian for versatility with perhaps 4 coming in. Promote from within also.

A Centre back, a Right winger and Ngolo Kante......

I absolutely would not sell Lukaku....variation is the spice of life, you can't have all similar attackers. And a 'flat track bully' is no bad thing when the league is essentially all about beating the bottom 14 teams week in week out.

I'd move Alexis on if the opportunity arose but that looks tough, financially.

A big squad overhaul and you can write off next season too with settling in periods.

Playing Dalot further forward to start with may give him the experience and confidence to develop into our long term right back.

We have the bones of a title challenging squad in my opinion, we just need a couple of more key personel to add to it.

bangkok · 05-03-2019 03:29PM

Liam O wrote: »

"agent pogba" would jump ship to PSG at a moment's notice in this scenario.

That doesnt even make sense

DM_7 · 05-03-2019 03:30PM

Weepsie wrote: »

3 at the back with Shaw and Dalot/Young as wingbacks, Fred, McTominay and Peirreira in Midfield and Lukaku and Rashford up front? Unlikely, maybe if we were holding on to a lead.

Back four.

Dalot - McT - Fred

Laukaku - Pereira - Rashford

More diamond than 4-3-3

DM_7 · 05-03-2019 03:33PM

bangkok wrote: »

That doesnt even make sense

United don't have funds for De Light, Ndombele and Mbappe.

I think Liam O meant that if Pogba was talking to Mbappe then Pogba would end up at PSG.

05-03-2019 03:34PM

bangkok wrote: »

That doesnt even make sense

You think Pogba would not leave United for PSG if he got the chance?

05-03-2019 03:37PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Do you think there’s a chance that he might be sold to fund a right wing forward and to allow Greenwood a chance to move up?

Do you think if he stays he will accept life on the bench or in rotation?

I have a feeling he would be sacrificed to fund a right wing forward and I think he will want to move if he isn’t starting. That’s my opinion of the situation but I’m not asking for him to be sold.

Me personally?

Absolutely not. Mata can be sold to allow Greenwood to move up to accomplish the same objective as an example.

I don't believe he will be underutilized as much as people think. People still have to remember Rashford is still only 21 and there will be times where he has dips.

I also believe that having variability in squad selection in the attack is more acceptable for a team looking to challenge for titles than having variability in defensive & midfield positions.

Defense and midfield should be solid and unchanged for the most but I'm ok with having multiple options in attack. This is why dynamic teams have more of a chance of winning in games where teams setup to contain than teams who are rigid in their structure and refuse to adapt.

I think Lukaku will stay and continue to fight and that healthy competition among the forwards is critical if Utd are going to succeed in the future.

I also see no evidence from him previously to suggest he will moan / complain if benched.

xtal191 · 05-03-2019 03:38PM

Def more of a chance of Pogba joining PSG than us signing Mbappe

v3ttel · 05-03-2019 03:47PM

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

No doubt or argument that Lukaku is a consistent goal scorer and a very good one at that.

I do feel however that he is not good enough to play the way the team wants to when everyone is fit. His link and hold up play are not good enough.

I always find this argument a bit bizarre about a strikers general play not being good enough unless they are laughably bad in every other aspect of the game except finishing. I especially find it weird when people say that it's why they want him sold (which happens on here regularly!)

"Sure, he can score the decisive goals regularly to win matches, but all those other fruitless attacks we have, that's when I want him to be better" ....... like they expect a team to score every time they go forward. The most difficult thing to do in a game is put the ball in the net. Lukaku has had a difficult season, lost his place and yet has only scored 4 less in the league than Harry Kane this season (and Kane takes penalties).

When you have a striker who scores goals regularly, can finish on his left, right or with his head, is pretty quick, exceptionally strong and is only 25 years old..... and some people don't want him playing? And others don't even want him at the club? Crazy.

He scores for fun for Belgium with KBD and Hazard creating chances for him. He's now scoring again for United because our attack is actually functioning. I find it odd that in an attack that can barely create a chance, it's the striker that's the scape goat. Aguero or Kane would have struggled to score goals in this team in the first half of the season.

All_in_Flynn · 05-03-2019 03:54PM

v3ttel wrote: »

I always find this argument a bit bizarre about a strikers general play not being good enough unless they are laughably bad in every other aspect of the game except finishing. I especially find it weird when people say that it's why they want him sold (which happens on here regularly!)

"Sure, he can score the decisive goals regularly to win matches, but all those other fruitless attacks we have, that's when I want him to be better" ....... like they expect a team to score every time they go forward. The most difficult thing to do in a game is put the ball in the net. Lukaku has had a difficult season, lost his place and yet has only scored 4 less in the league than Harry Kane this season (and Kane takes penalties).

When you have a striker who scores goals regularly, can finish on his left, right or with his head, is pretty quick, exceptionally strong and is only 25 years old..... and some people don't want him playing? And others don't even want him at the club? Crazy.

He scores for fun for Belgium with KBD and Hazard creating chances for him. He's now scoring again for United because our attack is actually functioning. I find it odd that in an attack that can barely create a chance, it's the striker that's the scape goat. Aguero or Kane would have struggled to score goals in this team in the first half of the season.

I don’t disagree with most of what you’ve said.

However, I think it’s quite clear to see the difference when Rashford starts ahead of him. Belgium point is mute because they’ve nobody else with the quality of a rashford to challenge him.

05-03-2019 03:59PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

Going to the match tomorrow, last match I was at was the cup match against Derby, let's hope I've not become an unlucky charm. :pac:

Ya picked some game lad!

charolais0153 · 05-03-2019 04:09PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Yeah i agree we need a CB, DM, RB, RW.

Problem is that unless we pick up say Alderweireld for cheap and maybe the likes of Rabiot for free then we won’t have enough in our budget to get a €100 million Jadon Sancho and a €50 million RB.

I think the sale of Lukaku is on the cards. If that generates €70 million say, then we might spend close to €200 million in return. Otherwise I can’t see us going far over the €100 million mark on transfers.

Who is going to buy lukaku? Chelsea?

charolais0153 · 05-03-2019 04:09PM

Fred's birthday is today

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