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Will Smith not black enough!!!

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  • #32
    SexBobomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭SexBobomb


    Do you think they know that acting is mostly just pretending ?


  • #33
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    If Scarlett Johansson plays Venus then Will Smith will be black enough. Problem solved

    Genius. And Brigitte Nielsen as Serena.


  • #34
    Venom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    SexBobomb wrote: »
    Do you think they know that acting is mostly just pretending ?


    Well, even some longtime actors such as Meryl Streep are even confused over what they do!




  • #35
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Mae Hollow Slingshot wrote: »
    I kinda get it tbh. Casting a lighter skinned person in that role is like the trend of bleaching via surgery or photoshop that celebs such as Beyonce do. We need to reenforce the message that you don't need to be white!

    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?

    This all at the same time that people are talking about a black actor playing James Bond, who is white in the source literature (which I have no issue with). Cognitive dissonance galore.

    You either consider skin colour an important differential factor or you don't.


  • #36
    ohfa6muwtsvkc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭ohfa6muwtsvkc1


    Amirani wrote: »
    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?

    If RTE commissioned a series about travellers and cast it all with settled people, there would be outrage.


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  • #37
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Amirani wrote: »
    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?...

    What, like Alexander Skarsgård playing Al Pacino in some future biopic? That's what's known in the trade as fuckan stoopid. :pac:


  • #38
    Hercule Poirot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    Colorism....? FFS.......


  • #39
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    In the USA, there is an ongoing discussion of skin tone by African Americans.
    Most commonly its known as light skinned and dark skinned, the debate ranges around how more light skinned black people have better opportunities and doors opened for them.
    This is just a case of this that is in the media.


  • #40
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,259 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Amirani wrote: »
    Could you imagine similar outrage for a white actor playing a white character with a different skin tone?

    This all at the same time that people are talking about a black actor playing James Bond, who is white in the source literature (which I have no issue with). Cognitive dissonance galore.

    You either consider skin colour an important differential factor or you don't.


    Like a northern European playing a Mediterranean?

    Still white.

    As Will Smith and the William's are black.


  • #41
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Can you find any examples of real people who matter, who have made this complaint, or this is made-up outrage again?


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  • #42
    corner of hells
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    Could one of the Williams sisters not play the part of thier own father ?


  • #43
    Ush1
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    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    In the USA, there is an ongoing discussion of skin tone by African Americans.
    Most commonly its known as light skinned and dark skinned, the debate ranges around how more light skinned black people have better opportunities and doors opened for them.
    This is just a case of this that is in the media.

    It's been going on for at least 15 years. I can remember American chat shows where lighter skinned black people were saying they wouldn't marry a very dark black American.


  • #44
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,259 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    In the USA, there is an ongoing discussion of skin tone by African Americans.
    Most commonly its known as light skinned and dark skinned, the debate ranges around how more light skinned black people have better opportunities and doors opened for them.
    This is just a case of this that is in the media.

    All of this shoite starts in the US of the America's.
    It started with dog grooming and breakfast on the patio,we laughed.

    Well...


  • #45
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Ush1 wrote: »
    It's been going on for at least 15 years. I can remember American chat shows where lighter skinned black people were saying they wouldn't marry a very dark black American.

    Isn't that... like... y'know... racist, an' shiz-nit?? :pac:


  • #46
    Deebles McBeebles
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    Could one of the Williams sisters not play the part of thier own father ?

    If they can make Sam Jackson look like he did 20 years ago in Captain Marvel, surely they have the technology for this :D


  • #47
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,529 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    kneemos wrote: »
    All of this shoite starts in the US of the America's.
    It started with dog grooming and breakfast on the patio,we laughed.

    Well...

    Not just the US, most of Asia too.


  • #48
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,865 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »
    Same thing was leveled against Obama by some activists. You are always going to have outrage junkies that need something complain and protest about to justify their use of oxygen.

    Stephen Fry one said he asked a kenyan what it was like seeing a black man with kenyan ancestry in the white house. the kenyan replied that if Obama was the leader of kenya he would have been the first white leader of Kenya.


  • #49
    Boom_Bap
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    It's been going on for at least 15 years. I can remember American chat shows where lighter skinned black people were saying they wouldn't marry a very dark black American.


    It's going on since the days of slavery!


  • #50
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    It's going on since the days of slavery!

    Yup. Lighter skin, in the house. Darker skin, in the fields.


  • #51
    Ush1
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    Grayson wrote: »
    Stephen Fry one said he asked a kenyan what it was like seeing a black man with kenyan ancestry in the white house. the kenyan replied that if Obama was the leader of kenya he would have been the first white leader of Kenya.

    Reminds me of a sketch that Chris Rock done years ago about Tiger Woods. He went to a black neighbourhood and loads of the kids had taken up golf and were hoping to be like Tiger Woods.

    Then he went to an Asian neighbourhood and they just looked at him funny; "Tiger Woods? He's just some black guy":pac:


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  • #52
    Grayson
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    Dingaan wrote: »
    Obama was a mixed race president. It seemed in his case people were happy to ignore 50 percent of his racial construct. To say he was the first black president is just wrong and ignorant to the facts.

    It's a white american way of looking at race. they used to have the one drop rule.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

    So Obama is considered black because he has a black parent. It'd be similar if he had just one grandparent who was black.


    On the original topic I kinda agree a bit. I remember watching the cosby show as a kid and wondering why some of the kids had very different skin tones to each other and even the parents. I of course knew nothing about race, genetics or melatonin when I was 7 years old.
    Still for accuracies sake, there are plenty of black actors who would be a closer match in skin tone.

    However, when it comes to the movie, would many people notice?


  • #53
    SoundsRight
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    Yup. Lighter skin, in the house. Darker skin, in the fields.

    Slavery ended what, hundred and fifty years ago? The Jews were nearly wiped out during WW2 and they don't make half as much noise as these dudes.


  • #54
    namloc1980
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    Sure didn't some people get their knickers in a twist over Bryan Cranston playing a disabled person.


  • #55
    Guy:Incognito
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    corner of hells wrote: »
    Could one of the Williams sisters not play the part of thier own father ?

    Eddie Murphy could play all of them


  • #56
    Boom_Bap
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    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Eddie Murphy could play all of them
    Brilliant!


  • #57
    jimgoose
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    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    Brilliant!



    :pac::pac::pac:


  • #58
    Frank O. Pinion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Frank O. Pinion


    White people in Ireland talking about black racial issues in America is always pretty cringey.


  • #59
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    The Irish are the Blacks of Europe...


  • #60
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    All these people talk about MLK as if he is their savior but their deeds and words are regularly in direct contrast with almost everything the man stood for.

    A lot of the younger black American activists seem to be more like Malcolm X.


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  • #61
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Dingaan wrote: »
    Obama was a mixed race president. It seemed in his case people were happy to ignore 50 percent of his racial construct. To say he was the first black president is just wrong and ignorant to the facts.

    Most people regard whiteness as regressive for some reason.


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