Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018/2019

GSPfan · 04-03-2019 10:54PM

Necro wrote: »

Prepare to be lambasted for that but I actually agree re: Maguire. I think he fits the profile of a United signing. He'd be a no brainer really if the price wasn't so astronomical which is largely the issue I think most have with him.

Yeah I will of course get the usual “mediocre over rated English player” lash back but he’d go great with Lindelof and he would be less of a risk. At 25 he’s perfect age.
Does anyone ever see him being made a fool of or have awful performances? I don’t. He’s a very good centre half but if people who know Koulibaly think he’s better than so be it but all i know about Koulibaly is that I’ve never heard of him before this season and the only time i watched him he got done badly by Salah. I’ve very little knowledge of players outside the Premier League so I’m not able to judge him properly.

jayo26 · 04-03-2019 10:56PM

astradave wrote: »

Put down the beer man

Bloody grammerly app is busted.

Headshot · 04-03-2019 11:01PM

Necro wrote: »

Prepare to be lambasted for that but I actually agree re: Maguire. I think he fits the profile of a United signing. He'd be a no brainer really if the price wasn't so astronomical which is largely the issue I think most have with him.

And rightfully so

Far from good enough for utd. I think it's because he's English that people constantly rate him. Id rather smalling any day of the week and that's saying a whole lot.

Utd cannot keep making the same mistakes with transfers as next season is huge for this team but we're on a brink of a great team but we just need some recruitment of 1st team players to get us onto that next stage.

The number one target for me in the summer is a CB to play beside lindelof with squad players such as Bailly and smalling it would look great for next season

GSPfan · 04-03-2019 11:14PM

Headshot wrote: »

Id rather smalling any day of the week and that's saying a whole lot.

It really is. It’s saying your judgement is way off when it comes to Harry Maguire. I’m alright you saying he’s not good enough of an improvement but he’s way better than Smalling.
There may be loads of defenders out there better than Harry Maguire but will we get them, doubtful.

Hococop · 04-03-2019 11:18PM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Alderweireld is a no-brainer for me, proven top quality and is actually available, supposedly. Need one CM but most likely two depending on the system the next manager decides he wants to play, unless Fred miraculously becomes the player we thought we bought.

Those are the main needs for me with a right-sided attacker or full back only coming after those needs are filled.

I know the price is £25 million for him, a bidding war can't happen just teams bid the 25 and he/spurs decide?

Mr.Nice Guy · 04-03-2019 11:22PM

I'm a fan of Dortmund's Manuel Akanji and would like to see him at United. Very classy player, 23 years old, and as a bonus he's a United fan:

"I’m ambitious, I want to get as far as possible in football. Since my childhood days Manchester United have been my favourite club. I'd like to play there one day"

He missed the Champions League first leg loss to Tottenham through injury but should play tomorrow in the 2nd leg. Really keen to see how he fares against Kane and Son.

Bleating Lamb · 04-03-2019 11:31PM

In terms of the defence Alderweirald is having a poor season by his standards and time waits for no man,I fear that Koulibaly lad would cost silly money and as has being said he’s no spring chicken either.

If that’s true about a high transfer fee for Zaha costing a large chunk of change to Utd as part of his previous transfer conditions to Palace it might actually make sound financial sense to resign him!!

As a club Utd need to get a lot smarter at identifying players that might be attracted to come to the club in their mid-twenties.

Necro · 04-03-2019 11:36PM

Bleating Lamb wrote:

If thatâ€™s true about a high transfer fee for Zaha costing a large chunk of change to Utd as part of his previous transfer conditions to Palace it might actually make sound financial sense to resign him!!

I'm surprised there wasn't a buyback clause inserted when he went back to Palace. Seems to be all the rage these days and makes sense

Quandary · 04-03-2019 11:52PM

Imagine throwing an insanely high bid to Liverpool for VVD.

A bid so big, and a wage packet so lucrative that at the very least it would cause them to sweat a bit :pac:

The effect he has had on that Liverpool defence when compared with last year is remarkable!

He's become their most important player.

Lindelof has been great lately but with a world class centre half beside him it would galvanise the whole back line. I seriously hope we go all out for the best centre half we can possibly get this summer.

Rossi IRL · 05-03-2019 12:07AM

Quandary wrote: »

Imagine throwing an insanely high bid to Liverpool for VVD.

A bid so big, and a wage packet so lucrative that at the very least it would cause them to sweat a bit :pac:

The effect he has had on that Liverpool defence when compared with last year is remarkable!

He's become their most important player.

Just evict him to get in his head...... Ole is his landlord??? (surely can't be true)

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1102687869376884736?s=19

DM_7 · 05-03-2019 12:11AM

GSPfan wrote: »

Yeah I will of course get the usual “mediocre over rated English player” lash back but he’d go great with Lindelof and he would be less of a risk. At 25 he’s perfect age.
Does anyone ever see him being made a fool of or have awful performances? I don’t. He’s a very good centre half but if people who know Koulibaly think he’s better than so be it but all i know about Koulibaly is that I’ve never heard of him before this season and the only time i watched him he got done badly by Salah. I’ve very little knowledge of players outside the Premier League so I’m not able to judge him properly.

26 tomorrow....

Maguire's reputation was enhanced as part of a three man defence for England. That is not something he will get at United though.

The worry with a player like him moving to a differant type of team is he will be forced into a differant type of defending, he will face many one on one situations where he has to track, delay, block and tackle players running at him as United tend to face counter attacks rather than balls into the box. Is that something he is good at?

While I think he is a good player the cost it will require to get him is too high. On a cost basis United will have to look outside England internationals like Maguire.

Denayer at Lyon for example. Examples from Headshot or MNG if looking at players in early to mid twenties.

Depspite that the obvious player next summer is Toby Alderweirald due to his quality and the reported clause in his contract. He would work well for Lindelof and would allow investment in other positions.

Trigger · 05-03-2019 12:13AM

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Just evict him to get in his head...... Ole is his landlord??? (surely can't be true)

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1102687869376884736?s=19

Kick him out the day before a game :pac: ah I'm just kidding..

Or am I...

beno619 · 05-03-2019 07:08AM

GSPfan wrote: »

It really is. It’s saying your judgement is way off when it comes to Harry Maguire. I’m alright you saying he’s not good enough of an improvement but he’s way better than Smalling.
There may be loads of defenders out there better than Harry Maguire but will we get them, doubtful.

Meh, they are both decent defenders who on there day can look like world beaters, but you should be honest about the fact the you've not put Maguire under the same microscope that Smalling has been under for 8 years at United.

Maguire is better on the ball I'll give him that.

05-03-2019 08:14AM

beno619 wrote: »

Meh, they are both decent defenders who on there day can look like world beaters, but you should be honest about the fact the you've not put Maguire under the same microscope that Smalling has been under for 8 years at United.

Maguire is better on the ball I'll give him that.

In fairness, you don't really need a microscope to see that Maguire is better than Smalling. All you have to do is see the space and time each afford attackers on the ball. Smalling is actually a great header of the ball but in all other elements of play he is stand offish. When he does get close to his man, he becomes very handsy and is liable to commit a foul every play.

05-03-2019 08:18AM

https://twitter.com/utdxtra/status/1102674839511412737?s=19

The_Kew_Tour · 05-03-2019 09:13AM

We do need a World Class CM and DM in summer. As much as people talk about a few nice players in wing or at 10, we are desperate in need of a more stable structure from the back

GSPfan · 05-03-2019 09:39AM

beno619 wrote: »

Meh, they are both decent defenders who on there day can look like world beaters, but you should be honest about the fact the you've not put Maguire under the same microscope that Smalling has been under for 8 years at United.

Maguire is better on the ball I'll give him that.

Well if you use that comparison of putting people under a microscope then absolutely everyone is guilty of that with comparisons of Maguire and any foreign league player. Maguire also comes with a stigma that his world cup performance inflated his value. That’s not true. He was probably going to cost €50 million regardless but VVD going for 75 or whatever screwed the market value of centre halves. Everyone now starts at that price.

Maguire is better but I’m not saying Maguire is brilliant. There’s better defenders of course but who are we going to get.

GSPfan · 05-03-2019 09:41AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We do need a World Class CM and DM in summer. As much as people talk about a few nice players in wing or at 10, we are desperate in need of a more stable structure from the back

You mean CB and DM?

Lord TSC · 05-03-2019 09:44AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We do need a World Class CM and DM in summer. As much as people talk about a few nice players in wing or at 10, we are desperate in need of a more stable structure from the back

I think the issue is we're in need of players in multiple positions tbh.

Realistically, we don't hae a proper RWer; just a collection of players who play other positions that fill the spot, and usually vacate it as nessecary. It's why I'd put it just ahead of the other spots, in that we actually do have midfielders and defenders.

Do I think a CB collection of Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Rojo is good enough? No. Do I think it's better than our selection of RW and RB players? Absolutely.

I think priority needs to be a world class RW player (to add depth to a shallow attack), a top level RB (Young and Dalot are not good enough going into next year), and then "reinforcements" in center mid and CB. Not necessarily world class talents, but some really solid players to compliment what we have there.

Ugh, writing this is depressing.

KH25 · 05-03-2019 09:48AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

I think the issue is we're in need of players in multiple positions tbh.

Realistically, we don't hae a proper RWer; just a collection of players who play other positions that fill the spot, and usually vacate it as nessecary. It's why I'd put it just ahead of the other spots, in that we actually do have midfielders and defenders.

Do I think a CB collection of Lindelof, Bailly, Jones, Smalling, Rojo is good enough? No. Do I think it's better than our selection of RW and RB players? Absolutely.

I think priority needs to be a world class RW player (to add depth to a shallow attack), a top level RB (Young and Dalot are not good enough going into next year), and then "reinforcements" in center mid and CB. Not necessarily world class talents, but some really solid players to compliment what we have there.

Ugh, writing this is depressing.

I would say we need 5 altogether. CB, RB, RW and 2 midfielders. One to replace Matic and one to replace Pogba. They can’t be expected to play every game.

All_in_Flynn · 05-03-2019 09:48AM

Most important thing to address in the team is the balance on the right hand side.

Either of the PSV wingers are my idea of the profile of player the club should be looking at.

Majority of our attacks come down the left hand side and teams are now starting double up on Pogba to try and stifle us. However it’s leavong huge space on the right and Pogba has been switchinhbthe play quickly a lot recently. However we nearly always end up coming back inside. A proper winger/right side attacker would improve us no end I believe.

GSPfan · 05-03-2019 09:50AM

Yeah i agree we need a CB, DM, RB, RW.

Problem is that unless we pick up say Alderweireld for cheap and maybe the likes of Rabiot for free then we won’t have enough in our budget to get a €100 million Jadon Sancho and a €50 million RB.

I think the sale of Lukaku is on the cards. If that generates €70 million say, then we might spend close to €200 million in return. Otherwise I can’t see us going far over the €100 million mark on transfers.

bangkok · 05-03-2019 09:52AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We do need a World Class CM and DM in summer. As much as people talk about a few nice players in wing or at 10, we are desperate in need of a more stable structure from the back

Ndombele would sort us there.

de Ligt for cb

Then throw crazy money for mbappe... get agent pogba on the case

areu4real? · 05-03-2019 10:10AM

GSPfan wrote: »

Yeah i agree we need a CB, DM, RB, RW.

Problem is that unless we pick up say Alderweireld for cheap and maybe the likes of Rabiot for free then we won’t have enough in our budget to get a €100 million Jadon Sancho and a €50 million RB.

I think the sale of Lukaku is on the cards. If that generates €70 million say, then we might spend close to €200 million in return. Otherwise I can’t see us going far over the €100 million mark on transfers.

As much as I don't want to say this, I can see DDG being sold this summer. If that does happen I would expect it to be close to or upwards of 100m sale. I hope Romero could step up and be the main man. He hasn't really ever shown me any obvious weakness so that would make for an interesting summer I think. Ideally DDG stays and Ole gets the backing needed but I just feel De Gea may want to get a few years in his home country while he's still at his peak.

05-03-2019 10:36AM

Primarily for me it's a CB alongside Lindelof.
A midfielder in a similar vane to Matic
Get Valencia out the ****ing gap.
Sanchez I can't see it work out now at this stage so cut the losses and sell him on and replace with a right sided attacker.

And some folks saying get rid of Lukaku, are ya mad. He's only 25 and already in the top 20 list.

Lord TSC · 05-03-2019 11:23AM

GSPfan wrote: »

Yeah i agree we need a CB, DM, RB, RW.

Problem is that unless we pick up say Alderweireld for cheap and maybe the likes of Rabiot for free then we won’t have enough in our budget to get a €100 million Jadon Sancho and a €50 million RB.

I think the sale of Lukaku is on the cards. If that generates €70 million say, then we might spend close to €200 million in return. Otherwise I can’t see us going far over the €100 million mark on transfers.

Agreed.

I think part of where the money is spent will also rely on what level of trust and faith is put into the younger players.

Gomes, Chong, Greenwood and Garner have all been spoken of highly. I wouldn't want to see any relied upon immediately.

But, for instance, if Chong is rated highly at RW, and with Dalot looking ok there too, could you go a cheaper route with a RW player, and have Dalot/Chong as RW options, with New RB and Young at RB? And if there's an injury to RB, Dalot can drop back too?

If Greenwood is highly rated, could you move on Lukaku, and rely on a combo of Rashford, Martial and Greenwood as your strike force next year? Use the Lukaku sale to fund the RW purchase?

If Garner is seen as a Carrick-esque player, can you keep Matic for a year and ese Garner in? In which case, you can sniff around a cheaper CM to fill the squad?

The fact we don't have any CB options though further drives home the fact we'll likely be focusing on one there.

bangkok · 05-03-2019 11:41AM

areu4real? wrote: »

As much as I don't want to say this, I can see DDG being sold this summer. If that does happen I would expect it to be close to or upwards of 100m sale. I hope Romero could step up and be the main man. He hasn't really ever shown me any obvious weakness so that would make for an interesting summer I think. Ideally DDG stays and Ole gets the backing needed but I just feel De Gea may want to get a few years in his home country while he's still at his peak.

No club in europe would spend 100m on de gea

Father Hernandez · 05-03-2019 11:52AM

areu4real? wrote: »

As much as I don't want to say this, I can see DDG being sold this summer. If that does happen I would expect it to be close to or upwards of 100m sale. I hope Romero could step up and be the main man. He hasn't really ever shown me any obvious weakness so that would make for an interesting summer I think. Ideally DDG stays and Ole gets the backing needed but I just feel De Gea may want to get a few years in his home country while he's still at his peak.

There is nothing to suggest this IMO, if he was going to go, he would have done so already.

He's not the type of person to throw his toys out of the pram, we've seen this with previous transfer speculation. You can also see he loves United through and through.

There hasn't been this type of atmosphere and feel good factor at the club since the Fergie days, no chance he'd leave now when there was a few almighty shhitt show's over the past 6 years he could have pushed for a transfer.

areu4real? · 05-03-2019 12:02PM

Father Hernandez wrote: »

There is nothing to suggest this IMO, if he was going to go, he would have done so already.

He's not the type of person to throw his toys out of the pram, we've seen this with previous transfer speculation. You can also see he loves United through and through.

There hasn't been this type of atmosphere and feel good factor at the club since the Fergie days, no chance he'd leave now when there was a few almighty shhitt show's over the past 6 years he could have pushed for a transfer.

I'm not suggesting he'd throw a strop and leave and I hope it doesn't happen. However I do feel he will go to Madrid before his career ends. Everyone around him says he's a model pro and a great personality in the dressing room. We should be keeping him if we want to keep going on this upward curve. It's just a thing in the back of my mind. Hopefully it stays there. Probably because he was quite close to leaving before.

DM_7 · 05-03-2019 12:08PM

Fred The Red wrote: »

Primarily for me it's a CB alongside Lindelof.
A midfielder in a similar vane to Matic
Get Valencia out the ****ing gap.
Sanchez I can't see it work out now at this stage so cut the losses and sell him on and replace with a right sided attacker.

And some folks saying get rid of Lukaku, are ya mad. He's only 25 and already in the top 20 list.

I agree with the above. It makes it even more important to get the next manager selected.

Some big decisions are needed about recruitment and departures. Players leaving will have a huge influence on what needs to be brought in.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018/2019

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