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Declining memory/attention span/sharpness

  • 04-03-2019 12:53AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭


    Has anyone else noticed that their overall mental sharpness has become poorer from mid 20s onwards? I used to pride myself on my memory and ability to focus but now at 31 I really struggle.

    I put it down to phone and device usage and living in my head more, worrying about work and never really stopping to look around. I've also become one of those people that will repeat the same story to the same people because I can't recall who I've told it to.

    Anyone experiencing similar?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭safeasparagus


    As long as the **** bank keeps working I’m happy enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Huh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,477 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    What's that sonny?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Cartroubles


    Huh?

    Basically do you find your memory isn't what it used to be since mobile phones etc became so prevalent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Cartroubles


    As long as the **** bank keeps working I’m happy enough.

    I'll lose all hope when that goes.


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  • Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Basically do you find your memory isn't what it used to be since mobile phones etc became so prevalent.

    Yeah, you just asked that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Cartroubles


    Yeah, you just asked that.

    Are those my feet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    As long as the **** bank keeps working I’m happy enough.

    Maybe that's what's caused the problem!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    Basically do you find your memory isn't what it used to be since mobile phones etc became so prevalent.


    I don't see the link with mobile phones being prevalent in general.


    I think the difference of being 20 or 25 or 30 has way more to do with what you are talking about than mobile phones becoming prevalant.


    Do you think everybody before mobile phones had perfect recall?


    Maybe they blamed their less than perfect recall on something else.


    I'm no expert in the field, but i was under the impression that memories get sorted when we sleep, maybe make sure you are getting enough undisturbed sleep.


    If your mobile phone was waking you every 10 minutes of the night, then you can blame your mobile phone, but not everybody allows there phones to disturb their sleep, so that is your own choice in how to use mobile phones.


    Similar to blaming guns for shootings. The gun is only a tool. Don't blame the tools for any misjudged use of them or the effects that they cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Stacksofwacks


    On a serious note if you notice your cognitive abilities declining at such a young age you should mention it to a doctor, Im mid 30's and interms of mental sharpness Im fine but your brain does cement somehwhat the older you get


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    As long as the **** bank keeps working I’m happy enough.

    I didn't know this was actually a thing until a few years ago. I have aphantasia so I've never had one.

    I also possibly have SDAM along with the aphantasia, so my memory has always been poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    The gargle dims the brain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Cartroubles


    On a serious note if you notice your cognitive abilities declining at such a young age you should mention it to a doctor, Im mid 30's and interms of mental sharpness Im fine but your brain does cement somehwhat the older you get

    I did actually at one point. It was pointed out to me a few times that I had a sh1te memory, and my brother had noticed that I wasn't as reliable in terms of keeping track of certain things as I used to be. Doctor suggested more exercise, good diet and good sleep. And he's right I'm sure.

    I just often wondered about device usage being a factor as I began noticing it not long after I got my first smart phone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Cartroubles


    I didn't know this was actually a thing until a few years ago. I have aphantasia so I've never had one.

    I also possibly have SDAM along with the aphantasia, so my memory has always been poor.

    I had never heard of aphantasia until now. Interesting, when did you realise you had it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,412 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Personally I find that since I became a smartphone user my attention span has decreased markedly. I was, still largely am, a pretty big reader but now I find it hard to read more than a couple of pages before having a compulsive gawk at my phone. I scroll through articles rather than painstakingly reading everything. I personally don't feel any decline in my memory, but certainly the way I take in information is all different since the smartphone came into my life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Christ no. At mid 20s that doesn't seem right at all. Mid 60s maybe.

    I wonder though is the information overload we are now constantly exposed to due to smartphones, apps, the internet, social media, steaming, causing our brains to be overcrowded?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Others wrote about smartphones before I did. I think it seems very much a factor in concentration being affected in younger people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    i cant remember the question.

    too lazy to check.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Cartroubles


    Christ no. At mid 20s that doesn't seem right at all. Mid 60s maybe.

    I wonder though is the information overload we are now constantly exposed to due to smartphones, apps, the internet, social media, steaming, causing our brains to be overcrowded?
    I did wonder if it could be a case that I don't really reflect on my day to day interactions and the information eventually gets lost or replaced with junk I've seen online. I don't really "exercise" my brain as much as when I was in school and college. Work doesn't really require much problem solving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Reptilia10


    Smartphones, television, computers; they're destroying people's minds, particularly young people. How many people under the age of 25 regularly read a book or newspaper? They are stimulus hungry, and can't go 5 minutes without staring at a screen. The adults are almost as bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Being constantly able to look things up with little difficulty definitely has a negative effect on one's memory. In the pub, trying to remember who starred in what, for example, and instead of everyone thinking about it, someone just googles and the memory isn't exercised. Can't not have a negative impact.



    Obligatory reference to London taxi drivers documentary.


    I have a checklist for a set of procedures I do in work every day - there aren't that many that I shouldn't be able remember them, but every day, I check the list, and would not be able to recall all the procedures without it.


    Slightly related, on the porn thing - You know the card game "Memory", where you place all the cards face down, then take turns (or practice by yourself) turning them over two at a time and trying to find matching pairs? I haven't played in years, but I was pretty average at it. However, my recall improved dramatically when using a pack of pornographic playing cards (where the matching numbers had the same lady pictured). Presumably the effect would have been the same had the pictures simply been bizarre or otherwise "memorable", rather than a standard playing deck, but 'twas still interesting to note, I thought. And if anyone needs participants for such a study...


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Before smartphones people memorized phone numbers, addresses, schedules, etc. That trains your memory in a way that people don't get now because we all carry memory devices that do it for us. When you wanted to find something out in ye olden days there were several steps involved with learning, finding the source of the wanted information, obtaining it, reading it and committing it to memory as it usually wasn't easy to re-access. There was a huge investment in accessing the information and in the formation of the memory. None of that exists now and we can drop the memory as quickly as we can look things up again.

    Remembering things is an aptitude and a skill, we might still have the aptitude but we lack the everyday life training that would give us the remembering skills that our parents took for granted. The internet and easily accessed information makes our brains map differently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭BuboBubo


    Well, I'm in my 40s and SQUIRREL!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Samuri Suicide


    Flight mode before bed is a good thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    I had never heard of aphantasia until now. Interesting, when did you realise you had it?

    Realised in my teens that the way I remembered seemed to be different to everyone else. Finally made sense that when people said to count sheep, they actually saw them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Memory loss is a fact of life and has nothing to do with phones.

    Your brain starts to shrink at age 20. At around age 27 your memory starts to diminish. By the age of 40 you lose 10,000 brain cells a day.

    I'm 43 and my memory has gotten terrible. Not to the point I've forgotten important things, but if I watch a series on Netflix and have to wait months for the next one I'll have forgotten about 70% of what happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Memory loss is a fact of life and has nothing to do with phones.

    Your brain starts to shrink at age 20. At around age 27 your memory starts to diminish. By the age of 40 you lose 10,000 brain cells a day.

    I'm 43 and my memory has gotten terrible. Not to the point I've forgotten important things, but if I watch a series on Netflix and have to wait months for the next one I'll have forgotten about 70% of what happened.

    Thats normal, its why they have recaps :pac:

    Im 23 and Ive noticed Ive got really bad at remembering celebrity names. I have bouts of bad anxiety and Im pretty sure it can affect memory pathways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    No, my memory is fine. My recall when working on projects is better if anything.

    I do, however, find myself bothering less remembering things I don't find important anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Candie wrote: »
    Before smartphones people memorized phone numbers, addresses, schedules, etc. That trains your memory in a way that people don't get now because we all carry memory devices that do it for us. When you wanted to find something out in ye olden days there were several steps involved with learning, finding the source of the wanted information, obtaining it, reading it and committing it to memory as it usually wasn't easy to re-access..
    I agree! I've a fairly good memory, and can remember landline phone numbers from 30 years ago, but don't have the same recall for mobile numbers. Actually, the mobile numbers I remember easiest are ones I knew before I got one myself (I was a late starter, getting my first mobile in 2006 at the age of 33). And I only got my first smartphone a few months ago at 45 so I haven't been fully corrupted yet.

    I'm 43 and my memory has gotten terrible. Not to the point I've forgotten important things, but if I watch a series on Netflix and have to wait months for the next one I'll have forgotten about 70% of what happened.

    I'd say part of that is down to the fact that there's so much more available to us, and as wakka12 said, that's why there are recaps. For me, Vikings was the worst. For the first few series, there were only 9 or 10 episodes, so you'd wait ages for the next series, and then on RTÉ, they'd show 2 episodes at a time.
    wakka12 wrote: »
    Im 23 and Ive noticed Ive got really bad at remembering celebrity names.
    There are so many similar, bland 'celebrities' around now, it's no wonder that your brain doesn't want to remember them. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭friendlyfun


    sKeith wrote: »
    I don't see the link with mobile phones being prevalent in general.


    I think the difference of being 20 or 25 or 30 has way more to do with what you are talking about than mobile phones becoming prevalant.


    Do you think everybody before mobile phones had perfect recall?


    Maybe they blamed their less than perfect recall on something else.


    I'm no expert in the field, but i was under the impression that memories get sorted when we sleep, maybe make sure you are getting enough undisturbed sleep.


    If your mobile phone was waking you every 10 minutes of the night, then you can blame your mobile phone, but not everybody allows there phones to disturb their sleep, so that is your own choice in how to use mobile phones.


    Similar to blaming guns for shootings. The gun is only a tool. Don't blame the tools for any misjudged use of them or the effects that they cause.

    Yes but the prevalence and availability of guns is definitely a contributing factor. And giving guns to people with pre-existing criminal convictions or mental health issues isn't exacr smart either.


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