Leaving Neverland - Michael Jackson Documentary [HBO]

I could not understand why, a young man, wanted to spend all of his time around young boys, I have and am always been devious of that,

why wait 10 years after he died

confessing now after 10 years

they couldn't confess 9 years ago

I think it's all about money, or that they have been convinced by a so called Therapist that what Michael did with them was abuse. We all know he spent time with a lot of families at Neverland, Michael himself talked openly about that in the Bashir documentary, why on earth would he fully admit that he sleeps in same room as kids and defend it as right and loving. He told of sleep overs, and cookies and milk, and movies, why admit all these things to the world if he was up to other things.
I'll believe it when Paris admits he abused her, or Prince. She's a girl with a lot on her mind, what that is no one knows.

If your neighbour, a plumber, built a home specifically designed to attract children, created scenarios where the parents couldn’t be around so he could get them into his room and sleep in the same bed with them...that alone would be enough to mark him as inappropriate and worthy of a lot of close attention. People watch Abducted In Plain Sight and are horrified that parents would allow a grown man to stay in the same bed as their child. People react with shock at what parents allowed Barry Bennell to get away with as Crewe youth coach, the stuff they openly knew like having them over for regular sleepovers and taking them away on holidays. That’s enough for people to make up their mind on those cases.

Michael Jackson did all of this. It’s documented fact, he never even denied it himself. I haven’t mentioned anything sexual yet. But that alone is enough to mark the lad as extremely inappropriate and suspicious at the very least.

And have we learned nothing with people trotting out the “But why didn’t the kids say anything? Why are the parents defending them then?” logic?! This is all standard behaviour in these cases. Usually the nonces have the kids and parents brainwashed to cover their arses (mixed with the shame of parents having to admit they were **** parents who pretty much gave their children to an abuser on a platter publicly, as well as the absolute psychological mind**** that is dealing with sexual abuse as a victim, people often don’t tell their spouses about that much less want to talk about it on TV).

Take the blinkers off lads. ‘Man In The Mirror’ is still a tune, I agree. But if it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. And if it builds a palace to attract children and separates them from their parents to share a bed with them, it’s a pedo.

They've pulled his music from BBC 2 radio apparently. So much for letting people decide for themselves.

I was a boy in Michael Jackson’s life, and nothing of what he’s being accused of in this documentary happened

https://talunzeitoun.com/2019/01/30/michael-jackson-and-me/

I encourage EVERYBODY to read this.

Brett Barnes, a kid Robson implies was Jacksons "next victim" in the film has taken a suit against HBO demanding any images and reference to him be removed.

This is just a few, read her other Tweets. The truth is out there, if people choose to see it.

leggo wrote: »

If your neighbour, a plumber, built a home specifically designed to attract children, created scenarios where the parents couldn’t be around so he could get them into his room and sleep in the same bed with them...that alone would be enough to mark him as inappropriate and worthy of a lot of close attention. People watch Abducted In Plain Sight and are horrified that parents would allow a grown man to stay in the same bed as their child. People react with shock at what parents allowed Barry Bennell to get away with as Crewe youth coach, the stuff they openly knew like having them over for regular sleepovers and taking them away on holidays. That’s enough for people to make up their mind on those cases.

Michael Jackson did all of this. It’s documented fact, he never even denied it himself. I haven’t mentioned anything sexual yet. But that alone is enough to mark the lad as extremely inappropriate and suspicious at the very least.

And have we learned nothing with people trotting out the “But why didn’t the kids say anything? Why are the parents defending them then?” logic?! This is all standard behaviour in these cases. Usually the nonces have the kids and parents brainwashed to cover their arses (mixed with the shame of parents having to admit they were **** parents who pretty much gave their children to an abuser on a platter publicly, as well as the absolute psychological mind**** that is dealing with sexual abuse as a victim, people often don’t tell their spouses about that much less want to talk about it on TV).

Take the blinkers off lads. ‘Man In The Mirror’ is still a tune, I agree. But if it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. And if it builds a palace to attract children and separates them from their parents to share a bed with them, it’s a pedo.

Excellent post.

It's a good rule of thumb when dealing with scandals like these involving famous people to ask 'what would the reaction be if this involved an ordinary Joe Soap, a Catholic priest, a teacher' etc.

Would it be remotely comparable? Would people shrug their shoulders if one of the above members of society said they thought it was a beautiful thing to share a bed with children?

If the answer is no, then it's useful for those who dismiss the allegations and shame those coming forward to ask themselves if they are really being blinded by celebrity.

In looking at this case only the facts will do.

There is a "Law Enforcement Officer" in LA who dedicated his life to bringing down MJ and, even with all the facilities he could avail of as a lawman, he still failed no matter how many times he tried. MJ was deemed innocent of the charges.

The British police tried the same trick with Cliff Richard and they failed as well. Yet there are still people out there with the attitude of "no smoke without fire".

Just because MJ had kids regularly staying with him is no evidence whatsoever of any wrongdoing. Just because he was different doesn't make him guilty of anything. There are people who spend their entire lives dedicated to and surrounded by animals.

The man is dead. There is nothing to be gained with this documentary (except money for those involved and an assured salaciousness for those who seek it).

Anyone who, without question, believes these two already proven liars and perjurers (several times over) seems to me to be just plain prejudiced and are just not stopping to consider the facts.

I prefer to believe all the other kids, including the well-known names now grown up, who were actually there.

dubdaymo wrote: »

Just because MJ had kids regularly staying with him is no evidence whatsoever of any wrongdoing.

You left out the part where they regularly stayed with him in his bed. You don't think there's anything wrong with that?

Would you be happy for a young family member of yours to have a sleepover that required them to share a bed with an adult?

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

You left out the part where they regularly stayed with him in his bed. You don't think there's anything wrong with that?

Would you be happy for a young family member of yours to have a sleepover that required them to share a bed with an adult?

Not normal, but it's not a man alone in a house, it's more of a commercial setting, with staff, security, maids, he never lifted a finger that's for sure. He had a vast array of staff and guest rooms for families. Hard to compare.

JohnCreedon81 wrote: »

The more I read about this documentary the more I want to avoid it. Sounds like the most one sided pile of crap ever.

Its not even that its one sided, its how their stories have changed/evolved since 2012 and no one has questioned them on it. If they were to sit in a court room, their depositions from the last 5/6 years would be torn apart.