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Hollywood Actor Jussie Smollett Facing Prison Time

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Candace nails it on just how victim focused today's liberals are. It's their currency of choice.



    I'm 90 seconds in and she's already talking nonsense.

    Words to the tune of "The first hoax was Colin Kaepernick, he made millions and got away with it, this half white man sold you a complete lie that it was cool to pretend that America shifted somehow under President Donald Trump, nothing shifted other than the mentality of black America, because the media told them that they were victims and that's all they could be".

    Colin took a knee during the national anthem in protest of police brutality against black people. Jeff all to do with Donald Trump and in fact he first kneeled a full 4 and a half months prior to DJT even taking office.

    I'm not familiar with this Candace Owens character and I'll give the rest a listen in good faith, not off to a great start though. These youtube conservative talking heads are almost universally full of **** and crafting narratives out of misinformation.

    Edit: I got about 5 minutes in and had to turn it off. She apparently can speak for every black american and every black american who disagrees with her is just a brainwashed sheep. This is a stream of consciousness emotional rant thats no better than the dross you see posted in some of the threads on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    is_that_so wrote: »


    You'd bloody well hope so!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭Undividual


    I haven't read any articles or comments and I won't be either although I googled him.

    I think hoaxers like him should be hung, drawn and quartered and then shot. Why is it that the people on the "so-called" Left are always the ones doing what it is this guy did? I think we all know the answer to that! Personal computer gone mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The two brothers from Nigeria apparently gave him up in an instant. Always be careful who you go in on a scam with. :D

    They've been released and will not be charged in relation to their involvement in the hoax.

    They showed Police a cheque for $3500 JS had made out to them. Small beans really for man making 1.8 mil off a single series.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    The two brothers from Nigeria apparently gave him up in an instant. Always be careful who you go in on a scam with. :D

    They've been released and will not be charged in relation to their involvement in the hoax.

    They showed Police a cheque for $3500 JS had made out to them. Small beans really for man making 1.8 mil off a single series.

    Why wouldn't they give him up, he paid them hardly anything as you said and I am not sure of their visa status but America right now is not the country to piss around in if your not a citizen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Really shows how many are so willing to support that the "Other side" are the bad guys. A bit like the MAGA kids and the Indian guy.

    What, the snowflake conservative whites being bullied?

    If there's a racist attack it would be from ultra right wingers, not the legion of Mary, (although...).
    I would be quick to believe racists can commit racist acts, yes.

    This dude needs to be held to account.
    I'm curious why it gets more press than killings going on. You would think the liberal media would have well hid this story ;)

    Sadly it's another case of someone crying wolf and every victim needing to pay the price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Undividual wrote: »
    I haven't read any articles or comments and I won't be either although I googled him.

    I think hoaxers like him should be hung, drawn and quartered and then shot. Why is it that the people on the "so-called" Left are always the ones doing what it is this guy did? I think we all know the answer to that! Personal computer gone mad.

    What do you mean by "so called left" and what are your examples of people on "the so called left" always doing this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,672 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The two brothers from Nigeria

    Or put another way the 2 American brothers who were born in America.
    The American-born brothers of Nigerian descent are bodybuilders and have both done some acting. A Thursday court filing by prosecutors said Abimbola Osundairo was a close friend of Smollett's
    apparently gave him up in an instant.

    If an instant is 45 hours.
    It was only after more than 45 hours behind bars that they agreed to talk, later admitting they helped stage the attack and offering details on how it was done.
    They've been released and will not be charged in relation to their involvement in the hoax.
    However odd it might be, it wouldn't be breaking the law to agree to pretend to beat someone up. If that was as far it went, there would be no victims. It becomes a crime if one of the participants reports the fake beating to police as real. Authorities say that's what Smollett did. The victims would include police, who wasted their time investigating the phony attack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    This dude needs to be held to account.
    I'm curious why it gets more press than killings going on. You would think the liberal media would have well hid this story ;)

    Well its come full circle i would think, the day that Jussie reported this an actual hate crime of a jew in New York city happened. Not a word about it because a celebrity of a current big TV series was attacked.

    Additionally when it came out that it was more than likely a fraud most of those that condemned him said they needed to see more evidence but when it looked like he was a victim they couldnt condemn the MAGA country enough. The media then went on to "distance" itself from the comments allot of its members made at the time.

    So if your trying to suggest that the media in America isn't biased because they are covering this story well it suggest its not the case, they are too far in to walk away now. They have to try and save face.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    This type of news is gold dust for Trump's re-election.

    Democrat politicians and the media slam white racist homophobic MAGA Trump supporters.... left with egg on their face. Turns out to be about a pay dispute????

    The Covington High School boy is suing the Washington Post for $250m over the Native American racial abuse allegations. Now it seems the boy didn't actually do anything but smile. He was accused of being some kind of Klan kid.

    If the US economy continues to perform well, he's looking at a second term. The debates will be great fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    The debates will be great fun.

    They always were going to be, in fairness. I don't like Trump but I can't help but find him entertaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,385 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Which white supremacist rally was that?

    The Unite the Right rally.
    Yes. He condemned people who carried out violence on both sides and suggested that not EVERY person that was at the rally was a white supremacist nor were all the people present to protest the rally violent thugs looking for a fight.

    What a monster.

    manual_man wrote: »
    Because it wasn't advertised as one. Anyone who did any research into the event would know this. Many people turned up in protest (either for or against) the removal of statues and found themselves caught up in something they wanted no part of.

    Please. The type of person who protests the removal of confederate statues wouldn't have any problem with ****e supremacist groups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    There is a reason he told the police that the two would be white (who were actually black) attackers, wore MAGA caps was to make it political so the media would jump all over it, elevating it from a local assault to something that would make international headlines.

    The more exposure the better, for his contract negotiations.

    It shows us as a society, especially in the media that we need to make a judgment on a story within about 5 seconds, then dig the trenches and stick with it to hell or high water. The Covington Catholic school incident is another example, where many media outlets had to issue retractions after the full facts came to light. Apparently, the kid is suing the Washington Post for $350 Million for defamation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    The problem with this idiot is that his lies were much too complicated. If you are going to lie then make it simple. His story was far too complicated and with too many hollywood style coincidences at once.

    Not only was there the maga hats, there was bleach and then the ****ing rope really jumped the shark. Too many points of interest there. I’m sort of surprised he didn’t say they were wearing white pointy hoods and had a burning cross as well.

    I’ve never watched the show. I actually thought it was Power he was in.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    America is suffering from a severe shortage of racism and simply can't meet the demand. When half the country have been duped into thinking there are 60 million KKK members and every Trump supporter is a racist, this sort of stuff happens.

    Covington, the seven-year-old girl getting shot, and this guy, all in the space of a couple of months. All called out as BS by people, who were then slaughtered, before being proven right.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23 SKILFUL


    America is suffering from a severe shortage of racism and simply can't meet the demand. When half the country have been duped into thinking there are 60 million KKK members and every Trump supporter is a racist, this sort of stuff happens.

    Covington, the seven-year-old girl getting shot, and this guy, all in the space of a couple of months. All called out as BS by people, who were then slaughtered, before being proven right.

    What girl getting shot


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23 SKILFUL


    America is suffering from a severe shortage of racism and simply can't meet the demand. When half the country have been duped into thinking there are 60 million KKK members and every Trump supporter is a racist, this sort of stuff happens.

    Covington, the seven-year-old girl getting shot, and this guy, all in the space of a couple of months. All called out as BS by people, who were then slaughtered, before being proven right.
    The christine blasey ford hoax exposed the left
    And they will never recover from that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    Ugh why are there a load of weird posts all of a sudden about the demand and supply of racism. Do people think repeating that nonsense makes them sound smart?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23 SKILFUL


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Ugh why are there a load of weird posts all of a sudden about the demand and supply of racism. Do people think repeating that nonsense makes them sound smart?
    Cos jussie hired 2 nigerians to hatecrime him
    Its like the A-TEAM in reverse


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  • Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    El_Bee wrote: »
    I'm surprised none of the journalists who covered this haven't been sanctioned for doing absolutely no digging and taking the whole thing at face value.

    Most of the media in all places seem to take the press releases of their favourite 'side' on various issues and present that as news.

    Its nuts. An independent media really is a pillar of a fully functioning democracy.


  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LLMMLL wrote:
    Ugh why are there a load of weird posts all of a sudden about the demand and supply of racism. Do people think repeating that nonsense makes them sound smart?

    Ugh. Why do you think that is (given the thread title and the facts lying therein)?

    Do you think that it's unreasonable to believe that in certain areas there is an outrage and victimhood culture in which people fabricate hardships in order to appeal to the permanently offended?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,672 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Ugh why are there a load of weird posts all of a sudden about the demand and supply of racism. Do people think repeating that nonsense makes them sound smart?

    I read (on Fox) that America is suffering from a severe shortage of murder and can't meet demand.

    Ergo Murder doesn't exit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    He's an absolute idiot and has completely thrown away what was the start of a potentially good career. But what's worse is that he's done a lot to undermine the real victims of racism and assault.

    Anytime you read or hear about something that seems to fit in perfectly with your world view, you should scrutinize it, or, at the very least, refrain from sharing your opinion until more facts become available. Just like news outlets want to be the first to break a story, some people want to be the first to appear as "woke" as possible, and it's not healthy. Unless you're not directly involved, your take is worthless, so you might as well hold on to it until there are enough details to warrant it.

    Excellent point.

    I was a Yes voter in the abortion referendum. But since, a few stories with scant details have hit the news and even been brought up in the Dáil about women being refused abortions or about details of women who has abortions being leaked. I’ve withheld opinions on these stories unless more details were later made available. Some people are too quick to be outraged and don’t analyse the information.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    I read (on Fox) that America is suffering from a severe shortage of murder and can't meet demand.

    Ergo Murder doesn't exit.

    No one is saying it doesn't exist. Learn how to argue like an adult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    This interview is so embarrassing in hindsight.



    What I don’t get is why he thought being racially targeted would increase his salary? He comes across like a right cringe bag. Typical narcissist, anything for attention. What’s worse is he would have happily seen two innocent people go to jail for a crime they didn’t commit. What kind of a mind even conjures up this crap? What a dangerous man.

    I think he was cynically trying to leverage the current political climate in the US of A to his advantage. Like “Nobody will dare question a black, gay man on this and the bosses might feel sorry for me!”. Totally hare-brained thought process. Detectives and crime analysts are well-trained in noting anomolies in people’s stories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Zorya wrote: »
    That interview is eye opening. I have not known many or even any serious liars in my time, so it is educational to see someone just brazenly sit there full on lying, even bringing themselves to tears, apparently reliving horrible trauma, bleach, noose, neck burns, so detailed, so apparently real! It's quite weird to watch. It's like someone in full on delusion. How many other people have we been watching lie their heads off so comprehensively on camera - makes one think.

    Check out Joe O’Reilly’s Late Late Show interview if it’s on Youtube. Chilling stuff. :eek:
    Fann Linn wrote: »
    He's an actor.

    I don’t think that makes much difference. Very few actors are encouraged to improv and it’s not in every actor’s wheelhouse. Actors interpret lines they have been given. He made this shït up. I don’t believe being an actor makes you a good liar. And it apparently didn’t make him a good liar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,672 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    No one is saying it doesn't exist. Learn how to argue like an adult.

    Adult, Nonsensical sound bites?

    Gotcha!


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    Adult, Nonsensical sound bites?

    Gotcha!

    A fantastic start. Well done.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Check out Joe O’Reilly’s Late Late Show interview if it’s on Youtube. Chilling stuff. :eek:



    I don’t think that makes much difference. Very few actors are encouraged to improv and it’s not in every actor’s wheelhouse. Actors interpret lines they have been given. He made this shït up. I don’t believe being an actor makes you a good liar. And it apparently didn’t make him a good liar.

    Have never seen that interview. My mother has told me about it in fascinated detail, she found it bizarre, and memorable, especially since she didn't believe him from the beginning. Her clue - she said ''what man knows how many towels are in the hotpress?'' A real-life Miss Marple is my Ma.

    As for the acting, it may have helped. I've done some acting and known many actors and even a good method actor would be hard pushed to be so unflinching. I think he was high on delusion. A kind of religious conviction that is there now in identity (I know! Snores..) politics. He was having secular visions :D


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