Imagine LTE Rural Broadband

TonyAdams1998 · 20-02-2019 04:10PM

rodge123 wrote: »

I’m in that same mast you are looking to get onto and speeds are poor enough in the evenings due to contention. About 7mb between 7pm and 11pm

Tbh after reading all these reviews I'm not too sure if I'll switch. Currently on Three PAYG loophole with a 4g router, getting 30mbps off peak then around 8-10 during the evenings. Looking at investing in an antenna, really good reviews of one on Amazon for about 120 quid.

TonyAdams1998 · 20-02-2019 04:12PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I don't get how both of those statements can be true though (not getting at you at all)..

If all existing users are getting upgraded , then surely if a particular connection is already full , that means no new customers , just upgrades for the existing customers?

Are they planning to run the existing platform alongside the new 5G one and if so will there be different pricing?

What I got from their rep on the phone was that all current masts would be upgraded to 5g, and in areas where there was demand that additional masts would be added alongside existing.

Said it would be very likely that the area I'm in would receive additional m masts due to demand.

user1842 · 20-02-2019 04:35PM

TonyAdams1998 wrote: »

What I got from their rep on the phone was that all current masts would be upgraded to 5g, and in areas where there was demand that additional masts would be added alongside existing.

Said it would be very likely that the area I'm in would receive additional m masts due to demand.

So each one of their current customers will need to have Imagine call to their house and replace their 4G antenna???????

I smell a rat....

TonyAdams1998 · 20-02-2019 04:37PM

user1842 wrote: »

So each of their current customers will need to have Imagine call to their house and replace their 4G antenna???????

I'm not too sure tbh, he didn't mention any upgrades. Maybe all current equipment is future-proofed?

Quin_Dub · 20-02-2019 04:40PM

user1842 wrote: »

So each one of their current customers will need to have Imagine call to their house and replace their 4G antenna???????

I smell a rat....

Yeah.. I'm with you on that.

Either they keep all the existing customers on the current service or they are going to have an "upgrade" charge , similar to the current €100 installation fee.

Can't see them eating the cost of upgrading all the existing customers for free.

user1842 · 20-02-2019 04:46PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Yeah.. I'm with you on that.

Either they keep all the existing customers on the current service or they are going to have an "upgrade" charge , similar to the current €100 installation fee.

Can't see them eating the cost of upgrading all the existing customers for free.

More than likely Imagine are using 4G and thus no antenna change would be necessary. If this is the case I will be making a complaint to the ASAI as Imagine are clearly using false advertising on their website as it gives the impression that 5G is in use.

https://www.huawei.com/en/press-events/news/2017/8/WTTxGame-Changer-Superfast-Broadband

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-02-2019 04:47PM

user1842 wrote: »

So each one of their current customers will need to have Imagine call to their house and replace their 4G antenna???????

I smell a rat....

It's likely a software update if anything. Posters here have been moved onto the 150Mb for quite a while and required no site visit by Imagine. Don't fall for their "5G ready" hype.

user1842 · 20-02-2019 04:51PM

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

It's likely a software update if anything. Posters here have been moved onto the 150Mb for quite a while and required no site visit by Imagine. Don't fall for their "5G ready" hype.

If this is the case then their website is misleading consumers and I will complain to the ASAI and I suggest others do to.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-02-2019 04:53PM

user1842 wrote: »

If this is the case then their website is misleading consumers and I will complain to the ASAI and I suggest others do to.

Good luck with that. The whole industry is built on misleading customers. eFibre, unlimited etc.

user1842 · 20-02-2019 04:54PM

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

Good luck with that. The whole industry is built on misleading customers. eFibre, unlimited etc.

I will try anyway, you never know.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-02-2019 05:07PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO1vZJEP_3k

From 1:30 in this video they admit that their current 53 sites are using the Huawei WTTx platform. This "launch" is just an expansion of their current rollout.

Gonzo · 20-02-2019 10:50PM

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO1vZJEP_3k

From 1:30 in this video they admit that their current 53 sites are using the Huawei WTTx platform. This "launch" is just an expansion of their current rollout.

If that video was made for a 1st year digital media college assignment it would barely pass.

- the audio is out of sync during interviews.
- really poor interview sound quality, like as if it's mono sound and distortion in the background (particularly the Sean Bolger piece at the start). Distortion probably from a very low and garbled bit rate.
- some very blurry footage upscaled to 1080p
- no video footage showing happy customers or people enjoying or using the service, instead we see lots of stock footage of Dublin where the service isn't needed or used, and vans, lots and lots of vans.

I may be nit picking, but for a company that is trying to come across as cutting edge, this isn't a very professionally made promotional video.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-02-2019 10:56PM

Gonzo wrote: »

If that video was made for a 1st year digital media college assignment it would barely pass.

- the audio is out of sync during interviews.
- really poor interview sound quality, like as if it's mono sound and distortion in the background (particularly the Sean Bolger piece at the start). Distortion probably from a very low and garbled bit rate.
- some very blurry footage upscaled to 1080p
- no video footage showing happy customers or people enjoying or using the service, instead we see lots of stock footage of Dublin where the service isn't needed or used, and vans, lots and lots of vans.

I may be nit picking, but for a company that is trying to come across as cutting edge, this isn't a very professionally made promotional video.

Yeah it's poor alright. Even worse is Huawei are using it on their own site.

https://carrier.huawei.com/en/success-stories/premium-home-broadband-enables-business-success/ireland-imagine-profitable-rural-broadband-with-wttx

Ardent · 20-02-2019 11:07PM

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

their current 53 sites are using the Huawei WTTx platform

Cool. Not only do I suffer appalling contention and peak speeds but China also gets to sniff at my online activity.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 20-02-2019 11:14PM

Ardent wrote: »

Cool. Not only do I suffer appalling contention and peak speeds but China also gets to sniff at my online activity.

A lot of internet access in this country will have Huawei involved at some stage.

Ultimanemo · 21-02-2019 07:08AM

Ardent wrote: »

Cool. Not only do I suffer appalling contention and peak speeds but China also gets to sniff at my online activity.

I think this is american propaganda to get a competitive advantage, google and facebook and every site are tracking us.

Scruff · 21-02-2019 12:04PM

they have ads running on the old fashion wireless now, heard it on Newstalk this morning.

Ten Pin · 21-02-2019 12:37PM

Is there any evidence that Imagines 5G will actually be 5G or just marketing waffle. 150Mbs is just CAT4 LTE (AFAIK) and if there's going to be fibre run to each site by June, then surely that would need to be in place now and consequently existing users would see a reduction in peak congestion right now. Or will it just be microwave backhaul which will just yield a repeat of the drawbacks that wimax had and LTE currently has.

If there's no change of CPE then surely this isn't 5G?

Gonzo · 21-02-2019 02:18PM

I wouldn't believe anything that comes from Imagine, they throw around buzz words very losely when describing their product.

They have referred to their current LTE product:

- Fibre Broadband
- Life Changing
- Fixed broadband
- Unlimited
- 5G

They never call their service 'wireless' broadband. They make it sound like it's a fixed line fibre broadband service with no limitations. They are not a fibre network, they are a wireless network same as 2g, 3g and 4g.

5G will not be available anywhere in the world till end of 2019/2020, so right now there is no 5G from Imagine, once again throwing the buzz words around their website and marketing material.

5G will likely launch first in South Korea with China, Japan and United States following. I very much doubt Imagine will be the first in the world to offer such a service.

morgana · 21-02-2019 03:19PM

The ad is total waffle IMO, full of very fluffy statements like connecting rural Ireland now (ROFL a lot of sites are actually full, like mine (Bweeng). But hardly actual info, like 5G ready meaning precisely nothing. I haven't seen any upgrade in speed, contention kicks in the evening, but beggars can't be choosers.
In fairness, even though speeds drop significantly at night (often between 5 - 10 mbps) it hasn't affected streaming or gaming. But there are only 2 people in the house, it would most likely be a different story with 3 or 4 simultaneous users.
I am reasonably happy with Imagine, it is what it is and works for me for now. Their uptime is very good, very few outages at all over the 3 years I've been with them. Also, dropping the daily cap really has made it very usable for me - no more worries about game updates

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And with the NPB in tatters, it unfortunately will have to do for the foreseeable future.

Gonzo · 21-02-2019 03:27PM

morgana wrote: »

And with the NPB in tatters, it unfortunately will have to do for the foreseeable future.

Imagine are doing everything in their power to make sure they will be keeping you and many others as a customer for the forseeable future.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/eir-and-imagine-expansions-may-delay-national-broadband-plan-906010.html

morgana · 21-02-2019 03:34PM

Yup. Saw that coming for the last few months. Ofc I would prefer FTTH but it looks more and more like a pipedream for the likes of us rural folk in the so-called intervention areas.

Ten Pin · 21-02-2019 03:42PM

If this is the case then their website is misleading consumers and I will complain to the ASAI and I suggest others do to.

Imagine are using a 5G logo on the TV ad, maybe worth letting the 5G alliance know to see if Imagine equipment is compliant with the minimum requirements to claim 5G compatibility. They might have more teeth than ASAI to issue some sort of cease & desist type notice IF their 5G is not really 5G.

morgana · 21-02-2019 04:40PM

Gonzo wrote: »

I
5G will not be available anywhere in the world till end of 2019/2020, so right now there is no 5G from Imagine, once again throwing the buzz words around their website and marketing material.

5G will likely launch first in South Korea with China, Japan and United States following. I very much doubt Imagine will be the first in the world to offer such a service.

Apparently the Swiss are going to beat them to it: https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019/02/21/sunrise-to-launch-5g-in-switzerland-this-march/

mp3guy · 21-02-2019 05:18PM

They aren't really calling it 5G, they're calling it "5G Ready". Taking a leaf out of the TV maker's book from a few years ago;

Great news, your home is in coverage for Imagine's 5G ready Fixed Broadband Service - we genuinely couldn't be happier and look forward to finally connecting your home to the broadband speed you need.

Even More Great News
Your home is now a Priority Connection. Not only are you in coverage, but as your home and surrounding areas have been identified as having poor broadband, your details have been passed on to the Priority Connection Team. Simply put, we have fast tracked your enquiry as we look to get you and your home connected to superfast broadband as soon as possible.

Limited Availability in Your Area
We limit the number of connections to your local 5G ready Fixed Broadband High-Site. We do this as we are not prepared to compromise on the quality of service you receive. For fairness, we operate on a first come first serve basis.

Look Out for Our Call
Shortly, you will receive a call from your 5G Local Home Connection Team who will chat to you more about the great benefits of Imagine's superfast 5G ready Fixed Broadband Service. They will answer any questions you may have and can also deal with your installation booking.

Can't Wait? Call Us Now on 1800 938 801

Thanks,
Imagine

user1842 · 21-02-2019 05:35PM

mp3guy wrote: »

They aren't really calling it 5G, they're calling it "5G Ready". Taking a leaf out of the TV maker's book from a few years ago;

It is still false advertising as the consumer is lead to believe it is 5G:

5G Local Home Connection Team........................

So the 5G team is connecting 4G, come on..........

mp3guy · 21-02-2019 05:50PM

user1842 wrote: »

It is still false advertising as the consumer is lead to believe it is 5G:

5G Local Home Connection Team........................

So the 5G team is connecting 4G, come on..........

It's a joke and you can be sure their lawyers very carefully checked the wording according to the (weak) advertising regulations in this country.

Ultimanemo · 21-02-2019 09:16PM

Reyansh Little Bandage wrote: »

It's likely a software update if anything. Posters here have been moved onto the 150Mb for quite a while and required no site visit by Imagine. Don't fall for their "5G ready" hype.

My house is 5G ready too, I have antenna mast, an ethernet cable and a few sockets, all ready for the 5G antenna and router

yrrag1974 · 21-02-2019 10:11PM

Anyone on the Kilcullen mast able to tell me what speeds they are getting peak time? To be honest I’d be happy with 6-7mb peak as it’s faste than what I have currently ðŸ˜±.

Also having read the posts up til now is the router still locked down or can you access the settings via its IP address?

Cheers guys

Marlow · 22-02-2019 01:36AM

Ten Pin wrote: »

Imagine are using a 5G logo on the TV ad, maybe worth letting the 5G alliance know to see if Imagine equipment is compliant with the minimum requirements to claim 5G compatibility. They might have more teeth than ASAI to issue some sort of cease & desist type notice IF their 5G is not really 5G.

It's ok. Imagine are buying their gear of Huawei. They just haven't paid for the 5G upgrades yet ...

Surely it's enough, that it can be upgraded to 5G .. eventually ...

/M

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