Leaving Neverland - Michael Jackson Documentary [HBO]

Can they just leave the king of pop alone? He is gone

Is this going to have the same impact on his legacy as that recent R Kelly documentary had on his?

Breaking News!! What Really Happened in "Leaving Neverland" and with Michael Jackson

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FJmUdkfHOVM

Wade Robson and James Safechuck are scumbag liars and it is all about money. And because Michael Jackson is dead, I don't think they(Robson and Safechuck) can be prosecuted, which they know.

Hoboo wrote: »

He was a nonce. No fan wants their dream shattered but he was. David Bowie, a nonce. Still not accepted by fans (because the two 14 year olds consented).

When will people learn.

Never knew that about Bowie that's sick.

Dead men tell no tales!

you notice this of footage came from 90s where only vhs existed, where dvds didn't or bluray exist how did they retain of the footage, MJ has being dead for 10 years and they can't leave dead people in peace alone and let him RIP.

All the reviews coming from the mainstream media in the UK and US are quite worrying in that 99% do not mention the fact that these 2 men have changed their stories several times since 2012.

The first suit was filed sealed- looking for a quick buck. Then theres testimonys online where Robson emails his mother back and forth looking to piece together days and nights, that he then claims he remembers vividly. He went looking for a book deal before the 2nd suit was lodged. Safechuck says he didnt realise til he saw Robson on TV that hed been abused (which was Robsons initial claim) to then both starting they never forgot anything. They are far from credible. Tried to hide emails/evidence etc.

Whether you think he did it or not, whats been reported seems very distorted and leaves outa lot about the 2 mens prior dealings with the Jackson Estate.

Always find it amusing the whole 'they just want to make money' rationale. Yeah, because pretending you were sexually abused and putting your family through that horrendous ordeal is always the classic go-to, get-rich plan, right?

We all remember that episode of Only Fools and Horses where Del tells Rodney his latest brilliant scheme: pretending he was sexually abused by a celebrity. "It can't fail, Rodders! Next year we'll be millionaires! Why's Grandad crying?"

Never ceases to amaze me the mental gymnastics people will put themselves through to defend someone who produced some albums they like. I'll keep an open mind for the documentary anyway.

glasso wrote: »

pull the race card out of nowhere - bs.

were you saying the same about Bill Cosby and R Kelly?

but he was a white man for a long time before these allegations anyway!

I'll watch the documentary and make up my own mind.

at the very least he was very strange with an unhealthy attraction to children - that neverland place was just bizarre and like a pied piper mansion.

Personally I would look for hard evidence rather than let a documentary sway me in any way.

During Jacksons trial in the mid-00's one of the accuser’s in the documentary, Wade Robson, testified that Jackson never abused him. He now claims he was manipulated and brainwashed. Would this not amount to perjury? Lying under oath? Surely revealing the sordid decades a decade ago would have resulted in Jackson getting charged.

In 2011, he approached the Jackson estate for a job to direct 'The Immortal World Tour' a Cirque-Du-Soleil like tribute show with Jackson holograms. He didn't get the job. In 2012, he had a nervous breakdown and claimed he was facing martial breakdown and financial ruin.

That same year, he then changed his mind and now claimed he was actually abused by Jackson. He shopped around for a book deal to pick up his accusations but no publishers were interested. It was quite a turnaround in opinion particularly when the person, weirdo and all that he was, that you’re accusing is dead and thus has no right of reply. Also consider that the Jackson estate since his death has earned $2.1 billion. That is a significant amount of money and the Jackson brand/publishing rights is a significant asset.



I think there is an ulterior motive, a financial one, with Wade Robson and his co-accuser looking to exploit the #metoo movement but the ulterior aspect being they sought to provoke the management of that asset to buy their silence and perhaps have them sign a non-disclosure agreement i.e. here's $1m but we'll take it back and sue you into oblivion if you ever mention MJ again.

Also no longer will stories about Jackson sharing a bed with boys shock people. We all know those stories since the Bashir documentary. What do you do in that case to get attention? You up the ante. Significantly. The more salacious it is the better to get media attention with a transparent motive being they would be very satisfied to receive a substantive cease and desist/STFU pay off from the Jackson estate. Their hedge being that either that estate will look to protect Jackson's reputation and the millions of dollars the publishing rights of his music generates annually or they participate in a documentary and receive royalties, appearance fee's from their involvement. Bear the above in mind when watching this deliberately one-sided documentary.

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

So you honestly think someone would never lie, including claiming they were sexually abused, for financial gain?

Do I think someone would never lie for financial gain? No. Do I think Jackson has managed to attract every single person capable of lying about sexual abuse to target him for money, out of sheer rotten luck? Also no.

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

You are implying no one would ever lie about sexual abuse as a 'get rich quick' scheme.

Er no, I'm ridiculing the feigning of sexual abuse for financial profit being presented as if it's a classic problem. To listen to Jackson's most fanatical followers one would think it is an epidemic within the court system concerning celebrities.