Dublin City Fight

Church on Tuesday · 15-02-2019 04:15PM

areu4real? wrote: »

What does that mean? I am for real I assure you

That that posters a troll?

Amirani · 15-02-2019 04:32PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

On the lack of gardai presence for the 8 mins, I wonder if it would be the same around Tower Bridge in London or around The Eiffel Tower in Paris as far as response time goes?

Police response time to the London Bridge and Borough Market terrorist attacks was also 8 minutes: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40147164

corner of hells · 15-02-2019 07:24PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Would it shock you if I told you I know him from prison? Good to see him staying out of trouble and making something of himself :pac:

AB ?

tabby aspreme · 15-02-2019 07:33PM

[quote="Realt Dearg Sec;109433333
But this was clearly taking a liberty, it was designed to show their contempt for the law. What was needed were fifteen big bog-trotting guards straight out of Templemore with full riot gear, shields, and batons, to let them know whose street it is. Everyone's.[/quote]

If fifteen big bog trotting guards did draw their batons, there would be plenty of your ilk, whinging about it, and gsoc would be called upon.

dotsman · 15-02-2019 07:49PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yeah, it's a bit mad that it happened where it did, but complaining that Gardaí weren't called and hadn't arrived on the scene within exactly 8 minutes? Not sure about that.

It's the main street of the capitol city and a major tourist zone.

Overrrun with junkies and scumbags on a daily basis.

Not only are there not any gardai patrolling the street (which would be the norm in any other major city), patrolling any of the neighbouring streets (which would also be the norm, as they to are a mixture of normal people, tourists and scumbags) but Store Street garda Station is a 5 minute walk from there (or 30 seconds away in a squad car).

It's not just that a fight broke out on the street, it's the fact that a large number of knackbags organised a fight to happen on that street because they knew there would be no interference from the gardai or punishment from our judicial system.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There is always a Garda Presence on O'Connell Street during the day and at evening time, at the GPO. But having Gardaí standing around at night time doing nothing?

Rarely see a garda presence there these days. I think they have just chickened out and surrendered the street. This wasn't "at night". It is winter time - it gets dark around 5. This looks closer to evening rush hour than anything.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

If à fight broke out in Capel Street or on Dame Street, you'd have people complaining that there are Gardaí standing with their hands in their pockets on O'Connell Street. I'd be fairly confident that Garda management look at crime statistics and deploy their officers accordingly.

As in Dame Street, another major street bustling with tourists, normal people and scumbags? Right next to Temple bar? Intersecting with other major streets filled with tourists, normal people and scumbags (and a lot of bars). You're right - why would anybody except policing on a street like that?

Roger Hassenforder · 15-02-2019 08:02PM

Thead referred to Advertising Standards Authority.
False claims of a fight, seen better in creche.
Would not recommend to a friend

15-02-2019 08:05PM

dotsman wrote: »

It's the main street of the capitol city and a major tourist zone.

Is O'Connell Street a major tourist zone in the evenings and at night? I live near that street, and I don't see many tourists there after dark.

Like any city, Dublin has it's own list of no-go areas on websites like Tripadvisor. I haven't checked it before writing this post, but I'd assume the vicinity of O'Connell Street (Monto, they Quays, and Abbey Street, are listed - or ought to be)

Overrrun with junkies and scumbags on a daily basis.

Have you ever walked down the Champs Elysses? Or Broadway? Piccadilly? I'm struggling here to think of any major thoroughfare in any country which doesn't have these problems. Areas like Grafton Street spring up *precisely* because they don't tend to have these problems.

Not only are there not any gardai patrolling the street (which would be the norm in any other major city)

There are. I walked down O'Connell Street less than three hours ago, and I saw Gardai on patrol. And I'm pretty sure there's still a Garda Station on the upper part of the street - the part nearest to Parnell Square.

corner of hells · 15-02-2019 08:13PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Is O'Connell Street a major tourist zone in the evenings and at night? I live near that street, and I don't see many tourists there after dark.

Like any city, Dublin has it's own list of no-go areas on websites like Tripadvisor. I haven't checked it before writing this post, but I'd assume the vicinity of O'Connell Street (Monto, they Quays, and Abbey Street, are listed - or ought to be)

Have you ever walked down the Champs Elysses? Or Broadway? Piccadilly? I'm struggling here to think of any major thoroughfare in any country which doesn't have these problems. Areas like Grafton Street spring up *precisely* because they don't tend to have these problems.

There are. I walked down O'Connell Street less than three hours ago, and I saw Gardai on patrol. And I'm pretty sure there's still a Garda Station on the upper part of the street - the part nearest to Parnell Square.

Monto ? And take me up to Monto ,Monto ,Monto .. ya Langaroo.

15-02-2019 08:15PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Monto ? And take me up to Monto ,Monto ,Monto .. ya Langaroo.

I can't think of the names of the streets in that area, yiz know what I'm referring to

Giveaway · 15-02-2019 08:18PM

Amirani wrote: »

Police response time to the London Bridge and Borough Market terrorist attacks was also 8 minutes: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40147164

One of the police chiefs was on the scene of the london attack immediately and got away quick

corner of hells · 15-02-2019 08:21PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I can't think of the names of the streets in that area, yiz know what I'm referring to

Foley street.

hatrickpatrick · 15-02-2019 08:27PM

I don't know if this is still Monto as it's a few streets up from where ye're talking about, but since the stalled regeneration project on Railway Street resulted in half of it being boarded up and abandoned, it's a pretty scary place if you're not used to lads shouting abuse and threats at you. In fact, I'm pretty sure that incident a couple of Halloweens ago with some teenager having a thunder rocket lit in her hoodie and almost blowing her head off too place on that street.

Dereliction in Dublin always results in scumbaggery setting up shop nearby. Anywhere there's a redevelopment about to happen and thus a lot of boarded up buildings.

corner of hells · 15-02-2019 08:40PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don't know if this is still Monto as it's a few streets up from where ye're talking about, but since the stalled regeneration project on Railway Street resulted in half of it being boarded up and abandoned, it's a pretty scary place if you're not used to lads shouting abuse and threats at you. In fact, I'm pretty sure that incident a couple of Halloweens ago with some teenager having a thunder rocket lit in her hoodie and almost blowing her head off too place on that street.

Dereliction in Dublin always results in scumbaggery setting up shop nearby. Anywhere there's a redevelopment about to happen and thus a lot of boarded up buildings.

Monto was originally was an area , I think.
Talbot street , Gardiner street and all the lanes off them.
Foley street is up there too

dotsman · 15-02-2019 08:47PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Is O'Connell Street a major tourist zone in the evenings and at night? I live near that street, and I don't see many tourists there after dark.

Trust me, they are there. Obviously not as many as during the day, but certainly (but that's true of most people). but again, this was not "at night", the street was bustling with people, so probably early evening/rush hour.

There are hotels on O'Connell Street, buses and taxis to and from the airport and Gardner Street and other streets off Talbot street are filled with hostels, b&b's and small hotels. It is the main street, hosts the GPO and is right bang in the center. Of course it is a major tourist zone.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Like any city, Dublin has it's own list of no-go areas on websites like Tripadvisor. I haven't checked it before writing this post, but I'd assume the vicinity of O'Connell Street (Monto, they Quays, and Abbey Street, are listed - or ought to be)

And wouldn't that be an awful declaration? That people should avoid the main street of the city and avoid a huge number of the hotels/b&b's etc?

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Have you ever walked down the Champs Elysses? Or Broadway? Piccadilly? I'm struggling here to think of any major thoroughfare in any country which doesn't have these problems. Areas like Grafton Street spring up *precisely* because they don't tend to have these problems.

Talk to any Parisien and they'll tell you about the problems with the Champs Elysee. But there is still a major police presence! Broadway is fine, unless you are thinking of 80's cop movies/tv shows. New York really cleaned up the main parts of Manhattan. How did they do this ? A cop on every corner. I've lived in New York, you can' walk 100 meters of a main street without passing a cop. Not really familiar with Picadilly. But the UK London is not a city I would like to compare to when talking about anti-social crime.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There are. I walked down O'Connell Street less than three hours ago, and I saw Gardai on patrol. And I'm pretty sure there's still a Garda Station on the upper part of the street - the part nearest to Parnell Square.

Well, they are rarely there these days. I am mainly passing through the early evening and only occasionally would see them. And if they are, doesn't that go against your point that it's fine that it took longer than 8 minutes to appear?

As for that garda station, I thought that closed years ago. There are often lots of scumbags hanging around right outside that building and I've never seen anybody go in or come out. And if it was open, again doesn't that go against your point? That even though there was a garda station right there on that street, they still couldn't be bother doing anything? And that the knack-bags still felt perfectly fine organising a fight on the street?

Not seeing any at this time (19.45) and there are still plenty of people about.

Nor on this cam.

Mad_maxx · 15-02-2019 08:50PM

dotsman wrote: »

It's the main street of the capitol city and a major tourist zone.

Overrrun with junkies and scumbags on a daily basis.

Not only are there not any gardai patrolling the street (which would be the norm in any other major city), patrolling any of the neighbouring streets (which would also be the norm, as they to are a mixture of normal people, tourists and scumbags) but Store Street garda Station is a 5 minute walk from there (or 30 seconds away in a squad car).

It's not just that a fight broke out on the street, it's the fact that a large number of knackbags organised a fight to happen on that street because they knew there would be no interference from the gardai or punishment from our judicial system.

Rarely see a garda presence there these days. I think they have just chickened out and surrendered the street. This wasn't "at night". It is winter time - it gets dark around 5. This looks closer to evening rush hour than anything.

As in Dame Street, another major street bustling with tourists, normal people and scumbags? Right next to Temple bar? Intersecting with other major streets filled with tourists, normal people and scumbags (and a lot of bars). You're right - why would anybody except policing on a street like that?

The guards have been unofficially on strike since 2008, perhaps when "pay restoration" arrives in full, we will see a proper police force, useless shower

Realt Dearg Sec · 15-02-2019 09:02PM

tabby aspreme wrote: »

If fifteen big bog trotting guards did draw their batons, there would be plenty of your ilk, whinging about it, and gsoc would be called upon.

Signs it's time to take a break #212: you're starting an argument with someone you agree with.

BBFAN · 15-02-2019 09:03PM

That was the worst fight I've ever seen!

I've always found O'Connell Street a kip though since as far back as the 80's.

I get both points of view here but tourists do still think that it's the place to go so it should be heavily policed. I now live outside Dublin and just today spoke to people who were going to Dublin and wanted to go to O'Connell Street, told them not to bother.

I've never felt as safe in my life as I have in New York, I travelled there alone and couldn't walk more than 200m without seeing a police man even in Central Park.

We definitely need more presence on the streets but at the same time, it's different in New York, Madrid etc. were police are armed, scumbags are actually afraid of them. They're not afraid of them here because they're not armed.

Kermit.de.frog · 15-02-2019 09:40PM

We don't have a poperly functioning, resourced police force.

There is no other capital city in Europe, on their main thoroughfare, where you can have a bare knuckle fight for 10 minutes with no police attention whatsoever.

Policing in this country is a disgrace and to all intents and purposes proactive policing is non existent.

Serious changes needed.

Hotblack Desiato · 15-02-2019 11:16PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Natural selection. They are generic scummers.

Problem is Homo Scumbagus look like humans but breed faster

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

On the lack of gardai presence for the 8 mins, I wonder if it would be the same around Tower Bridge in London or around The Eiffel Tower in Paris as far as response time goes?

Anyone noticed the "planters" either end of Grafton St? There to stop islamic van driver attacks. I wonder how the hell the Garda could cope though if instead of a lone amateur, an IS cell gave it a proper go. They could kill hundreds if they wanted to before the Army Rangers could get on scene to stop them. The Garda are no use at all against that.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

We don't have a poperly functioning, resourced police force. ... Serious changes needed.

I think Drew Harris is the right man to bring about the major cultural change which is needed but he needs major political backing behind him to make the unpopular decisions necessary. Yes there is a lack of resources but the major problems are the culture of "ah shure it'll do" and "protect our own" within the force.

BTDT in respect of reporting a crime where I was assaulted, the gardai did actually show up but because I didn't have the name, fingerprints and PPSN of the guy who assaulted me they were not at all arsed, even though I knew where he lived...

Pro tip guys. Investigate crime. It's your job.

15-02-2019 11:28PM

corner of hells wrote: »

AB ?

Ha yeah :pac:

Wheeliebin30 · 15-02-2019 11:47PM

Most vulnerable in society....

KevRossi · 16-02-2019 12:31AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Thats fair enough. There should be more of a presence on the main thoroughfare of the capital. Where exactly on O'Connell street did it take place?

Right outside Supermacs, which you don't see due to the camera angle.

Yamanoto · 16-02-2019 12:52AM

Justice Peter Charleton made the point that in the myriad times he'd travelled from the Four Courts to Dublin Castle to preside over the disclosures tribunal, he'd rarely if ever observed members patrolling on foot in the centre of Dublin.

MonkieSocks · 16-02-2019 01:05AM

corner of hells wrote: »

Foley street.

Previously named Montgomery Street

Monto

KevRossi · 16-02-2019 09:28AM

Yamanoto wrote: »

Justice Peter Charleton made the point that in the myriad times he'd travelled from the Four Courts to Dublin Castle to preside over the disclosures tribunal, he'd rarely if ever observed members patrolling on foot in the centre of Dublin.

If the colleagues of the Justice would actually implement the punishments associated with the crimes more often and backed the Gardai up, then we'd have a lot less of this going on.

As it stands there is little or no deterrent, if caught, a slap on the wrist would be the most they could expect.

Alf Veedersane · 16-02-2019 10:29AM

As has been said, resources are the issue. I'm not sure how many commenting would fancy wading into a crowd like that with one other colleague in tow. I know I wouldn't anyway.

There's really only one way to send a message with incidents like this and it's for tens of guards to march in swinging at the scumbags because arresting them and bringing them before the courts appears to be a massize waste of everyone's time given the sentences, or lack thereof.

vicwatson · 16-02-2019 10:43AM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

Natural selection. They are generic scummers. I found it funny when they were telling people to get out of the way and to move. They are on the capitals main street ....... or do they know what a street is. I hate these degenerates.

Stolen designer clothes everywhere in that video

spurious · 16-02-2019 10:58AM

Disappointed there were not more hands in jocks as I have come to expect from the athletic wear aficionados.

Pinch Flat · 16-02-2019 12:57PM

spurious wrote: »

Disappointed there were not more hands in jocks as I have come to expect from the athletic wear aficionados.

Given the amount of north face gear on show, they also seem to fancy a bit of hill walking in the wicklow hills when theyre not being scrotes

Alf Veedersane · 16-02-2019 01:37PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Given the amount of north face gear on show, they also seem to fancy a bit of hill walking in the wicklow hills when theyre not being scrotes

Would certainly explain this:

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/illegal-dumping-wicklow-4455613-Jan2019/%3famp=1

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