PNA still on strike and zero fs given in media

veryangryman · 15-02-2019 01:01PM #1

Got the impression the labour court recommendation was for all. Guess i was wrong but why is there zero media coverage. Walked by pna strike just now

Deebles McBeebles · 15-02-2019 01:02PM

Floodgates you say?

rgodard80a · 15-02-2019 01:48PM

They need to release a few of the loonies out to gain more publicity.

NewClareman · 15-02-2019 01:53PM

rgodard80a wrote: »

They need to release a few of the loonies out to gain more publicity.

What a truly disrespectful comment, even if it was said for fun.

Mental health issues could affect any of us, and for many it will. Using a derogatory term only makes it harder for people to get the help they need.

Mr. Incognito · 15-02-2019 01:54PM

Because the Unions only want money and dont want to actually advocate any change to conditions which would make public services in this country work.

Money is not the problem.

It is the ingrained culture of sick days, temp staff, short hours, long breaks, and low morale that working in a broken system brings.

Homer · 15-02-2019 01:55PM

NewClareman wrote: »

What a truly disrespectful comment, even if it was said for fun.

Mental health issues could affect any of us, and for many it will. Using a derogatory term only makes it harder for people to get the help they need.

Welcome to after hours

it’s a bit of a mad house in here

Deebles McBeebles · 15-02-2019 01:58PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

It is the ingrained culture of sick days, temp staff, short hours, long breaks, and low morale that working in a broken system brings.

I assume you've worked around a wide range of departments/services in order to hold that opinion?

Old diesel · 15-02-2019 02:00PM

The strike you walked passed was possibly an ambulance crew strike.

500 ambulance crew members are part of a group called National Ambulance Representative Association.

This isn't a union itself but is aligned to/part of the PNA - the strike is because the 500 crew members want the PNA to be recognised as their union.

Thats 500 out of 1800 staff.

Personally I think they are right to insist on being represented by whoever they like but the HSE doesnt agree.

There seems to be some difficulties in the ambulance service. In Cork for example crews coming to the end of a 12 hour shift are being asked to do a round trip to Dublin on Patient transfers.

This is leading to very long shifts and crews are unhappy with driving and working while tired issues.

Mr. Incognito · 15-02-2019 02:07PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

I assume you've worked around a wide range of departments/services in order to hold that opinion?

Are you for real?

Do you not live in Ireland?

Have you ever tried to get a passport, an ambulance, access a hospital, access any government detartment, worked in or around the courts, spoken to teachers,

Unless you work for a FG PR company or your living abroad this is one of the strangest things I have ever read. EVERY single person living in Ireland has first hand experience of incompetence in EVERY single Government Department they have ever dealt with.

Deebles McBeebles · 15-02-2019 02:10PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Unless you work for a FG PR company or your living abroad this is one of the strangest things I have ever read. EVERY single person living in Ireland has first hand experience of incompetence in EVERY single Government Department they have ever dealt with.

Exaggerate much? It seems you've brought your agenda against the public service into the thread.

Old diesel · 15-02-2019 02:13PM

Crews see doing a very very long day as creating a safety risk.

To themselves, their patient, the doctor/nurse traveling with the patient and any family member traveling with the patient.

And other road users.

Yesterday a crew doing their 12 hour shift were asked to do a transfer with 30 minutes to go in the shift.

The problem is that a round trip to Dublin at end of shift makes an extremely long day.

So you start at 8 am in the morning - if you add 4 hours to the 12 hour shift - you are looking at a 16 hour day and finishing at midnight.

This is a problem if you are back on duty again at 8 am AND if you are already out of bed 2/3 hours before shift.

Getting up at 6 am and not going to bed until 1 am (ie after finishing at midnight you have to drive home) is a problem

Mr. Incognito · 15-02-2019 02:14PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Exaggerate much? It seems you've brought your agenda against the public service into the thread.

Sorry. You are right. They are all well paid very productive fantastic people.

Except for the strikes.

And the shut downs.

And the hospital trolleys.

Those are all agendas.

Homer · 15-02-2019 02:15PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Exaggerate much? It seems you've brought your agenda against the public service into the thread.

and it seems you’ve brought yours for the public service also! Funny that eh :rolleyes:
I would think you’re in the minority

Jamie2k9 · 15-02-2019 02:16PM

NewClareman wrote: »

What a truly disrespectful comment, even if it was said for fun.

Mental health issues could affect any of us, and for many it will. Using a derogatory term only makes it harder for people to get the help they need.

Mental Health has increasingly turned into an excuse for peoples actions these days.

orourkeda1977 · 15-02-2019 02:35PM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Mental Health has increasingly turned into an excuse for peoples actions these days.

An excuse or a reason?

trellheim · 15-02-2019 02:39PM

This is a problem if you are back on duty again at 8 am AND if you are already out of bed 2/3 hours before shift.

Getting up at 6 am and not going to bed until 1 am (ie after finishing at midnight you have to drive home) is a problem

is this not covered under EU WTD

Old diesel · 15-02-2019 02:46PM

trellheim wrote: »

is this not covered under EU WTD

To be honest I dont know.

Deebles McBeebles · 15-02-2019 03:10PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Sorry. You are right. They are all well paid very productive fantastic people.

Except for the strikes.

And the shut downs.

And the hospital trolleys.

Those are all agendas.

:rolleyes:

Homer wrote: »

and it seems you’ve brought yours for the public service also! Funny that eh :rolleyes:
I would think you’re in the minority

Nope, just don't feel the exaggeration is warranted. Plenty of good people doing good jobs in the public sector.

rgodard80a · 16-02-2019 06:25PM

NewClareman wrote: »

What a truly disrespectful comment, even if it was said for fun.

Mental health issues could affect any of us, and for many it will. Using a derogatory term only makes it harder for people to get the help they need.

Yes, but rarely violent mental health issues.
That remark was targeted more at the very troublesome patients in the likes of the central medical hospital (think there's only one in Dundrum with VERY high walls)

Believe it or not, it was a supporting comment about the troubles psychiatric nurses likely have with criminal or psychotic patients. Showing the public what they go through might strengthen their case.

PNA still on strike and zero fs given in media

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