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Abducted in plain sight (Netflix)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    We watched it last night, it was baffling how the family allowed things to progress. And to believe the story of the therapy :confused::confused:

    Gullible, naive, irresponsible people! :(

    And then for him to take the easy way out.. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I'm 100% convinced B was paying them for excess to there daughter,

    Look at there story

    They said at the begging the new straight away he had an unhealthy obsession with her, but yet didn't ring the police for days when he took her first, Then let him sleep in her room for month after this,

    I reckon he was paying them and then refused to and that's when they decided to cal lthe police,

    The story about the **** , The father had no history before or since of being Gay but they needed to have a valid reason as to why they didn't come forward sooner,

    So they make the **** story up so people say "oh no wonder they couldn't come forward with the shame" When infact they didn't come forward as it was a business del until he stopped paying ,

    The mother then goes off and has a relationship with him for 8 months, Would she have done that if he had taken there daughter without them helping him out ?


    The recorded phone call with the mom it didn't sound right at all, Didn't sound like a mother talking to her daughter who had been kidnapped out of the blue ,

    I reckon she only came back because the father was going to tell the truth , you could see in the interviews how she spoke about B she remembered him fondly ,

    The FBI agent didn't seem to believe the story but I reckon he couldn't say anything without proof, He said numerous times this was unlike anything they had seen before,

    Why go on TV or write a book and show how bad parents you where, they had to keep that wacky story up or they would both be done selling there kid,

    I'd love to hear from b's wife


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    Watched this last night... it's unbelievable. I don't understand how they didn't report the daughter missing straight away the first time... even if they genuinely didn't believe B kidnapped her, surely they'd think that maybe B had crashed the car and the two of them were injured somewhere? Can't understand how you'd let it go a few days without reporting it.

    And then the Mam having a relationship with B after he married Jan! WTF??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    The mother said the FBI was "closed" :confused: that is why they didn't report it.

    They knew exactly what "B"'s intentions were.

    Money changed hands or the father and B were in homosexual relationship and B was blackmailing them.

    To me, nothing else makes sense.

    I tend to agree. The parents were willing to sacrifice their daughter to this paedophile, thinking they could control the crazy situation they were in, because they were desperate to save face in their community, and also desperate to keep this guy close to them for both their own romantic and sexual intentions. I mean didn't the mother go off with B after the first abduction?

    I must admit too, whilst knowing nothing about this story when we watched it, when the interviews first started one-on-one my initial first impression of the father was that he was gay. So i suppose I think he still is in a closeted kind of way. Out but not out iykwim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭runningbuddy


    Call me Al wrote: »
    I tend to agree. The parents were willing to sacrifice their daughter to this paedophile, thinking they could control the crazy situation they were in, because they were desperate to save face in their community, and also desperate to keep this guy close to them for both their own romantic and sexual intentions. I mean didn't the mother go off with B after the first abduction?

    I must admit too, whilst knowing nothing about this story when we watched it, when the interviews first started one-on-one my initial first impression of the father was that he was gay. So i suppose I think he still is in a closeted kind of way. Out but not out iykwim.

    Think the mother went off with B before the abduction then a few times after.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Think the mother went off with B before the abduction then a few times after.

    She moved in with im for 8 months after the abduction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Frank O. Pinion


    I'm 100% convinced B was paying them for excess to there daughter,

    Look at there story

    They said at the begging the new straight away he had an unhealthy obsession with her, but yet didn't ring the police for days when he took her first, Then let him sleep in her room for month after this,

    I reckon he was paying them and then refused to and that's when they decided to cal lthe police,

    The story about the **** , The father had no history before or since of being Gay but they needed to have a valid reason as to why they didn't come forward sooner,

    So they make the **** story up so people say "oh no wonder they couldn't come forward with the shame" When infact they didn't come forward as it was a business del until he stopped paying ,

    The mother then goes off and has a relationship with him for 8 months, Would she have done that if he had taken there daughter without them helping him out ?


    The recorded phone call with the mom it didn't sound right at all, Didn't sound like a mother talking to her daughter who had been kidnapped out of the blue ,

    I reckon she only came back because the father was going to tell the truth , you could see in the interviews how she spoke about B she remembered him fondly ,

    The FBI agent didn't seem to believe the story but I reckon he couldn't say anything without proof, He said numerous times this was unlike anything they had seen before,

    Why go on TV or write a book and show how bad parents you where, they had to keep that wacky story up or they would both be done selling there kid,

    I'd love to hear from b's wife
    You know nothing about how naive Americans can be. Your theory is ridiculous. "Was he paying you? No...I jerked him off", doesn't make any sense at all.

    The Father has no "history" of his gayness, because of his religion, hence being a CLOSETED homosexual. It wouldn't be closeted, if everyone knew about it. That's another reason the wife had an affair, because she wasn't getting much action from her gay husband.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    You know nothing about how naive Americans can be. Your theory is ridiculous. "Was he paying you? No...I jerked him off", doesn't make any sense at all.

    The Father has no "history" of his gayness, because of his religion, hence being a CLOSETED homosexual. It wouldn't be closeted, if everyone knew about it. That's another reason the wife had an affair, because she wasn't getting much action from her gay husband.



    The Dad needed a reason when they called to cops as to why they didn't call earlier and he said because of the black mail about the **** ,

    What if they didn't call because he was being paid off but then the money stopped coming but the guy kept abusing his daughter,

    The whole thing makes no sense,

    Doesn't call the cops for days when a guy they knew had a thing for the daughter went missing with her ?
    Lets let a grow man we know has a thing for our daughter and kidnapped her before sleep in her room ?
    Wife runs off with said grown man and t still obvious she is found of him ?
    Wife on the phone to B when her daughter was missing seems pretty relaxed ?

    I'd love to know come B wife wasn't involved in documentary ?

    The mother said at the end, we have come for forgive ourselves , Really How could you ever forgive yourself for letting that happen to your daughter ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Tired Gardener


    Just finished watching this... don't think me and my wife have had to pause a documentary so many times. We were just utterly flaberghasted by the parents. Thick as pig ****... beyond naive.

    How their kids weren't taken from them is astonishing.

    Glad that Jan has managed to lead a normal life after the events, but damn... that story doesn't reflect well on her family or their faith


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Nuttier than a squirrel sh1te, the whole lot of 'em.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Willie Stroker 1976


    Just watched this. All I can say is What the f***. A the parents should be locked up too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭cocokabana


    I watched half of this tonight and by far it is the strangest programme I've seen. I watched the Bundy tapes and I thought that was bad. This was was bananas. I was literally screaming at the parents saying how could you be so naive. They were as the FBI agent said seriously duped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,626 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I think in some cases where their child has been abused, the parents often blame themselves, even when it would be incredibly hard to pinpoint what they did wrong.

    In this case, it's absolutely justified. Those parents utterly and completely failed that girl. Regardless of how charismatic or manipulative he was, the parents absolutely share a huge portion of the blame for what happened to her. It's a testament to the strength and resolve of Jan that she was able to come out of it as well as she has. It's easy to see how she could have been manipulated by him, given her age, naivety and her trust in him. The parents have no excuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭yermandan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Absolute mad stuff, we had to pause it to make sure it wasn't a fake documentary.

    The glint in the Mother's eye was still there for him.

    I think the Dad is a closet homosexual. 'B' was the very defiition of a con-man.

    The Aliens story though ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    it really id the most frustrating thing iv ever watched, Poor kids having parents like that,

    Both parents where very successful in business before and after so are no fools ,

    I'm 100% convinced that they where being paid by B to be allow him to abuse there daughter, The rest is all part of the cover up ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    I watched this this morning because I'd seen so many comments about it. It's got to be one of the most absurd stories I've ever heard. If it was a film, you'd think it was over the top. I actually laughed out loud when the father told his story about 'relieving' B. The mother running off with him was the most bizarre part for me. It was odd how they kept in touch with him for most of the time as well and were so relcutant to report it. Some legitimate queries have been raised in this thread. I naively enough felt that the story was so incredible that no-one could make it up and expect to be taken seriously.

    I wonder what role their religion played in all this. I don't know much about the LDS but I imagine homosexuality and extra-marital affairs are a big deal, which might explain their reluctance to get involved with the police as it would bring all that out into the public. Also, the control B had over the family reminded me of stories I've heard about cults. I wonder is the LDS church one where you have to accept and obey everything you are told and as such its followers are practically programmed not to question. I'm genuinely curious as I haven't a clue about it.

    If ever a story was to be summed up briefly, I think Charlie Haughey would do it neatly - grotesque, unbelievable, bizarre and unprecented.


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