NEW 2018 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

angel eyes 2012 · 03-02-2019 06:59PM

minky123 wrote: »

Does anyone know - is Justice considered internal (for potential transfers) if you are in the Court Service?

They are considered separate bodies for transfer/promotional opportunities. You could apply via the civil service mobility scheme or the union magazines often have head to head swaps advertised. There is also the possibility of internal transfer within your own Department if feasible.

coloneldecker · 04-02-2019 11:41AM

minky123 wrote: »

Does anyone know - is Justice considered internal (for potential transfers) if you are in the Court Service?

Courts Service have been their own separate entity since 1999, DJE have no involvement anymore.

tea and coffee · 04-02-2019 11:47AM

Anyone know where they are on the panel for clearance at the moment, please?

JackReacher1980 · 04-02-2019 12:10PM

I know someone in the 30s has their start date

Megidje · 04-02-2019 01:36PM

JackReacher1980 wrote: »

I know someone in the 30s has their start date

Would you know if they were on the open or Interdepartmental?

JackReacher1980 · 04-02-2019 01:48PM

Megidje wrote: »

Would you know if they were on the open or Interdepartmental?

Interdepartmental. I’m in single digits on open and inter departmental-there’s only one digit between my placings on both.

sillysocks · 05-02-2019 11:10AM

Just got a message saying they shortlisted for all locations anyone above 106 on total score.

It says I’m not being brought forward because :

“The board’s comment in relation to your application was:

On their application form, candidate did not demonstrate, at the level required for the Assistant Principal role, sufficient evidence of Management/Leadership Experience and Judgement, Analysis and Decision Making”

Hopefully some will fair better. I probably didn’t spend enough time properly detailing my experience. Was in two minds as to whether I’d like the role anyway so that’s my decision made!

ammg · 05-02-2019 11:36AM

sillysocks wrote: »

Just got a message saying they shortlisted for all locations anyone above 106 on total score.

It says I’m not being brought forward because :

“The board’s comment in relation to your application was:

On their application form, candidate did not demonstrate, at the level required for the Assistant Principal role, sufficient evidence of Management/Leadership Experience and Judgement, Analysis and Decision Making”

Hopefully some will fair better. I probably didn’t spend enough time properly detailing my experience. Was in two minds as to whether I’d like the role anyway so that’s my decision made!

I got the exact same. I was 113. Gutted!

PhoenixParker · 05-02-2019 11:37AM

Got through shortlisting. Surprised and delighted.
Any tips on the format of the next bit?

dar100 · 05-02-2019 11:43AM

Is this for those that didnt make the cut already

gmisk · 05-02-2019 11:44AM

I have an interview on 12th of feb.....if anyone has any tips would be much appreciated, I havent had an AP interview before only a HEO one.

PhoenixParker · 05-02-2019 11:48AM

dar100 wrote: »

Is this for those that didnt make the cut already

They shortlisted everyone who scored 106 and above, regions and Dublin.

sillysocks · 05-02-2019 11:51AM

PhoenixParker wrote: »

dar100 wrote: »

Is this for those that didnt make the cut already

They shortlisted everyone who scored 106 and above, regions and Dublin.

Up to now I think it was over 115/116 and only Dublin. So they’ve dropped the high score needed and included all regions.

dar100 · 05-02-2019 12:00PM

Feck, i got 102. Id be pretty confident of meeting the key competencies too. Ah well

Max Mustermann · 05-02-2019 12:08PM

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Got through shortlisting. Surprised and delighted.
Any tips on the format of the next bit?

Congrats PhoenixParker and best of luck with the next stages. Commiserations to those that got cut on the shortlisting. Hopefully those of us just below 106 will be called later in Batch 3.

PhoenixParker · 05-02-2019 12:38PM

Out of interest, whats 106 on the OOM?

sillysocks · 05-02-2019 12:46PM

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Out of interest, whats 106 on the OOM?

My score was 106 and I was 1576 on the OOM.

dar100 · 05-02-2019 01:42PM

102 and i was 1950 FYI

dee75 · 05-02-2019 01:45PM

Got my regional shortlisting reply also. Score from online tests was 129.

Didn't make it through shortlisting though and they said it was management/ leadership criteria that I fell down on.

However I was successful in batch 1 of the 2016 competition and came 2nd in one of my counties. Got offered an AP role but turned it down at the time as it didn't suit.

So basically 2 years ago I met all criteria, scored very highly in tests and interview and got offered a job.

Now 2 years later (with significant professional development especially in the management and leadership side) I don't make it through shortlisting?

Bizarre!!

Ah well, their loss!!

Remind me · 05-02-2019 02:08PM

dar100 wrote: »

Feck, i got 102. Id be pretty confident of meeting the key competencies too. Ah well

IF they are into batch 2 already I’d expect they’ll go for a batch 3

sillysocks · 05-02-2019 02:51PM

Remind me wrote: »

dar100 wrote: »

Feck, i got 102. Id be pretty confident of meeting the key competencies too. Ah well

IF they are into batch 2 already I’d expect they’ll go for a batch 3

Probably depends on what region you’re in too.

Remind me · 05-02-2019 03:28PM

sillysocks wrote: »

Probably depends on what region you’re in too.

True, regional unlikely Dublin likely

Veledan22 · 05-02-2019 03:35PM

Does the verification stage also include the etray? Or is it verification,then a separate stage for the etray, followed by a final interview stage?

Max Mustermann · 05-02-2019 03:38PM

Veledan22 wrote: »

Does the verification stage also include the etray? Or is it verification,then a separate stage for the etray, followed by a final interview stage?

Etray is included

minky123 · 05-02-2019 04:02PM

Hi all

the verification stage included

verbal
numerical
situational judgement and
the etray

Two sessions morning (start at 8am - went to about 12) and afternoon (start at 1?)

Etray was allowed two hours - you can wear what you like. Read the instructions carefully you need to bring photo and photocopies of things.

Watch the time!

Best of luck to all!

Max Mustermann · 05-02-2019 04:14PM

Did they give you the dates yet for Stage 3?

TaurenDruid · 05-02-2019 04:57PM

dee75 wrote: »

Got my regional shortlisting reply also. Score from online tests was 129.

Didn't make it through shortlisting though and they said it was management/ leadership criteria that I fell down on.

However I was successful in batch 1 of the 2016 competition and came 2nd in one of my counties. Got offered an AP role but turned it down at the time as it didn't suit.

So basically 2 years ago I met all criteria, scored very highly in tests and interview and got offered a job.

Now 2 years later (with significant professional development especially in the management and leadership side) I don't make it through shortlisting?

Bizarre!!

Ah well, their loss!!

Might well be worth an appeal, Dee. I have heard of them working occasionally. Seeing as the essential criteria haven't changed and you were previously judged to have met all the requirements... Nothing to lose, anyway?

trashcan · 05-02-2019 05:10PM

dee75 wrote: »

Got my regional shortlisting reply also. Score from online tests was 129.

Didn't make it through shortlisting though and they said it was management/ leadership criteria that I fell down on.

However I was successful in batch 1 of the 2016 competition and came 2nd in one of my counties. Got offered an AP role but turned it down at the time as it didn't suit.

So basically 2 years ago I met all criteria, scored very highly in tests and interview and got offered a job.

Now 2 years later (with significant professional development especially in the management and leadership side) I don't make it through shortlisting?

Bizarre!!

Ah well, their loss!!

Just shows up the random nature of the whole process really.

runawaybishop · 05-02-2019 05:35PM

trashcan wrote: »

Just shows up the random nature of the whole process really.

It's means other candidates were more qualified and raised the bar is all.

TaurenDruid · 05-02-2019 05:50PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

It's means other candidates were more qualified and raised the bar is all.

No, it doesn't.

The bar is supposed to be "does this application form show that the person has the requisite skills and experience". The requisite skills and experience did not change between 2016 and 2018. Dee was jusdged to have had them in 2016. She then got more skills and experience. And was judged to not have them in 2018.

NEW 2018 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

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