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Micky Jackson in trouble again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    A dig about a gif? A sure sign all opposing argument has been exhausted :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    A dig about a gif? A sure sign all opposing argument has been exhausted


    I actually thought it was a dig at the type and source of the "facts" you are posting rather than the gif itself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    I actually thought it was a dig at the type and source of the "facts" you are posting rather than the gif itself

    Yeah come back to me when you’re able to back up anything you’ve been saying with anything other than irrelevant penis pictures.
    Toodles!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    https://talunzeitoun.com/2019/01/30/michael-jackson-and-me/?fbclid=IwAR0ch5huUwFqEZvnNluGGabQqkKAyTob7jUaFIEciFm-hqU2tST7a9Wbzcs
    I was a boy in Michael Jackson’s life, and nothing of what he’s being accused of in this documentary happened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I met Larry Murphy once, and he didn’t murder or rape me. Therefore I can categorically state as fact that he didn’t murder or rape anybody else.


    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    It gets better!!

    “nothing of what he’s being accused of in this documentary happened”

    He then goes on to say

    “I haven’t seen the documentary”



    You’re a hoot Sleeper never change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    It gets better!!

    “nothing of what he’s being accused of in this documentary happened”

    He then goes on to say

    “I haven’t seen the documentary”



    You’re a hoot Sleeper never change.




    I havent seen it either yet I know what's in it. You don't have to watch something to know the claims. I'll bet 90% or more of posters haven't seen it. You are commenting on it & you haven't seen it either I'm betting! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    That doesn’t give him the authority to decide whether or not someone else’s experiences did or didn’t happen.
    I provided proof earlier where a lawyer who submitted a motion concluded that the insurance rumour is just that, a rumour. And you dismissed it as “not first hand knowledge” among other crap.

    Yet you think you can post proof that something didn’t happen because a totally irrelevant person with completely different experiences said it didn’t?

    I’m literally haemorrhaging over your brain dead posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    That doesn’t give him the authority to decide whether or not someone else’s experiences did or didn’t happen.
    I provided proof earlier where a lawyer who submitted a motion concluded that the insurance rumour is just that, a rumour. And you dismissed it as “not first hand knowledge” among other crap.

    Yet you think you can post proof that something didn’t happen because a totally irrelevant person with completely different experiences said it didn’t?

    I’m literally haemorrhaging over your brain dead posts.


    But you feel it gives you the right???


    We are all posting opinions here. You genuinely feel someone who actually knew the man has no right to comment yet You & your conspiracy websites can??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    I luv u Michael, don’t ever think ur fans will abonden u. U were too good and pure for this world and miss understand and the world always destroys what it doesn’t know , I luv u mj.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    But you feel it gives you the right???

    We are all posting opinions here. You genuinely feel someone who actually knew the man has no right to comment yet You & your conspiracy websites can??

    I agree with your previous comment tbh. Looks like everyone elses opinion is invalid for some strange reason and you are correct about those websites are best conspiracy feeding pots. Funny that pot kettle & etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    fin12 wrote: »
    I luv u Michael, don’t ever think ur fans will abonden u. U were too good and pure for this world and miss understand and the world always destroys what it doesn’t know , I luv u mj.

    He’s dead and can’t read this. We’ve reached peak cray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I see I missed a cracking argument there :D


    Obsessive Michael Jackson fans are a whole other level of crazy. There's something missing in your life if you display that level of devotion to a complete stranger!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    He’s dead

    Still isn't stopping ne'er do wells from trying to profit from him post-mortem.

    Anyway, I think the reason why the thread was started was largely ignored, mainly because some people thought it fun to re-litigate a farcical trial using myths from lunatic fringe conspiracy sites.

    The context of the new "allegations"

    Wade Robson when Jackson died.
    Michael Jackson changed the world and, more personally, my life forever. He is the reason I dance, the reason I make music, and one of the main reasons I believe in the pure goodness of humankind. He has been a close friend of mine for 20 years. His music, his movement, his personal words of inspiration and encouragement and his unconditional love will live inside of me forever. I will miss him immeasurably, but I know that he is now at peace and enchanting the heavens with a melody and a moonwalk.

    That's that so.

    Until.
    In 2011, Robson approached John Branca, co-executor of the Michael Jackson Estate, about directing the new Michael Jackson/Cirque du Soleil production, ONE. Robson admitted he wanted the job “badly,” but the Estate ultimately chose someone else for the position.
    In 2012, Robson had a nervous breakdown, triggered, he said, by an obsessive quest for success. His career, in his own words, began to “crumble.”
    That same year, with Robson’s career, finances, and marriage in peril, he began shopping a book that claimed he was sexually abused by Michael Jackson. No publisher picked it up.
    In 2013, Robson filed a $1.5 billion dollar civil lawsuit/creditor’s claim, along with James Safechuck, who also spent time with Jackson in the late ‘80s. Safechuck claimed he only realized he may have been abused when Robson filed his lawsuit. That lawsuit was dismissed by a probate court in 2017.

    Pull the fooking other one Wade.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Boggles wrote: »
    Still isn't stopping ne'er do wells from trying to profit from him post-mortem.

    Anyway, I think the reason why the thread was started was largely ignored, mainly because some people thought it fun to re-litigate a farcical trial using myths from lunatic fringe conspiracy sites.

    The context of the new "allegations"

    Wade Robson when Jackson died.



    That's that so.

    Until.









    Pull the fooking other one Wade.

    :rolleyes:

    So if more people came forward would you automatically write them off as money grabbers too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Boggles wrote: »
    Still isn't stopping ne'er do wells from trying to profit from him post-mortem.

    Anyway, I think the reason why the thread was started was largely ignored, mainly because some people thought it fun to re-litigate a farcical trial using myths from lunatic fringe conspiracy sites.

    The context of the new "allegations"

    Wade Robson when Jackson died.



    That's that so.

    Until.









    Pull the fooking other one Wade.

    :rolleyes:

    You know some children don’t realise they were abused right? That’s part and parcel of grooming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    So if more people came forward would you automatically write them off as money grabbers too?

    Sorry, you want me to speculate on a hypothetical?

    Ah. No. You're all right.

    What do you think about the bould Wade?

    Bone fide?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    You know some children don’t realised they were abused right? That’s part and parcel of grooming.

    He knew he was "abused".

    He didn't realize that anally raping a 7 year old was actually wrong until he was 30 years old.

    It just happened to coincide with him been turned down for a job from the estate he tried to sue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Boggles wrote: »
    He knew he was "abused".

    He didn't realize that anally raping a 7 year old was actually wrong until he was 30 years old.

    It just happened to coincide with him been turned down for a job from the estate he tried to sue.

    The experts disagree with you. Denial is a real thing in victims of grooming and abuse. Some never admit it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,865 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    So if more people came forward would you automatically write them off as money grabbers too?

    This is the difficult point to overcome with regards Michael. Unfortunately if anybody was a real victim it's going to be harder than with anyone else because of the history of false allegations about him from people trying to exploit him for money.

    I don't deny something could have happened to somebody but I find it harder given the previous claims and the fact that there's still so much media disinformation that many people believe him to be an abuser and his estate still has a lot of money.

    The motivations of Wade Robson to me are nearly as suspect as those of Jordy Chandler and Gavin Arviso but I'm going to wait until the documentary to decide on whether I believe him. At the moment I'm very sceptical...but then nobody has seen this doc yet so we're only speculating


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    The experts disagree with you. Denial is a real thing in victims of grooming and abuse. Some never admit it.

    And some "victims" come flat out with it in a book they couldn't get published and then in a lawsuit that was fooked out of court.

    And when that doesn't work they latch onto some no-body "documentarian" who only wants to give their side of the story because of something...something...etc, something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Boggles wrote: »
    And some "victims" come flat out with it in a book they couldn't get published and then in a lawsuit that was fooked out of court.

    And when that doesn't work they latch onto some no-body "documentarian" who only wants to give their side of the story because of something...something...etc, something.

    "Fooked out of court" because the statute of limitations had passed. Not for any other reason.

    I don't know, I've read their accounts and if they weren't abused, they've really done their homework about how a groomer operates and how abuse victims feel. It just rings true to me, on several levels. They have said they didn't get paid for documentary

    Yeah a "nobody documentarian" who's been nominated for several awards including an emmy and won a bafta for previous work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,915 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    It's no wonder so many victims of grooming/abuse , never come forward or even admit to anyone that it happened to them .

    Instead , it gets buried inside a box in your head , too painful to deal with or admit to , as how are you meant to prove it ? Keep a log of times and dates ? Means nothing tbh .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Boggles wrote: »
    Still isn't stopping ne'er do wells from trying to profit from him post-mortem.

    Anyway, I think the reason why the thread was started was largely ignored, mainly because some people thought it fun to re-litigate a farcical trial using myths from lunatic fringe conspiracy sites.

    The context of the new "allegations"

    Wade Robson when Jackson died.



    That's that so.

    Until.









    Pull the fooking other one Wade.

    :rolleyes:

    Well summarised IMO, thank you.

    I don't believe a word Wade says - just another money grabbing con man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    I met Larry Murphy once, and he didn’t murder or rape me. Therefore I can categorically state as fact that he didn’t murder or rape anybody else.


    :rolleyes:

    To be fair he didn't meet him once, he was constantly in his life for 14 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,489 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I don't know, I've read their accounts and if they weren't abused, they've really done their homework about how a groomer operates and how abuse victims feel.

    Yeah, 1.62 billion would make you do your homework all right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    To be fair he didn't meet him once, he was constantly in his life for 14 years.

    I know someone who was married to a child abuser for 14 years, I begged her on the eve of the wedding not to marry him because I knew he was a bad un even though I didn't know the full truth then.

    He's since been jailed for 14 years and she still refuses to admit he did anything wrong. Delusion is real folks. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    BBFAN wrote:
    He's since been jailed for 14 years and she still refuses to admit he did anything wrong. Delusion is real folks.

    Off topic I know but some women chose to believe their husband over their children he's sexually abusing or raping. Fortunately this is rare but delusion is alive and well for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,651 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    To be fair he didn't meet him once, he was constantly in his life for 14 years.

    And others who were in his life for years have said they were abused. You choose not to believe those people but are more than willing to believe the ones who said nothing happened to them.

    Why cant both statements be true? Some were abused, some werent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,298 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    ceadaoin. wrote:
    And others who were in his life for years have said they were abused. You choose not to believe those people but are more than willing to believe the ones who said nothing happened to them.


    Here's the thing. Every single accuser has gone for money, sold their story. Not a single accuser just tried to get him stopped (if he was doing anything). One of the idiots in the movie tried to get one Billion dollars! The original 1993 case the family took the money & ran. They had no regard for future possible victims. No one is a nice person in this story. Its hard to believe someone when they are more interested in money than stopping the "monster".


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