Car bomb has exploded in Derry City Centre

30-01-2019 11:45PM

I hadn't seen any mention of this statement in this thread yet, maybe Im wrong.

Group responsible for Derry bomb makes statement

The PSNI also believes the New IRA was behind three other hijackings of work vans, including a Royal Mail van and a supermarket delivery vehicle, in the city on January 21st.

“we will continue to strike at Crown forces personnel and their imperial establishment.

“We also caution those who collaborate with the British that they are to desist immediately as no more warnings will be given.”

In the aftermath of the bombing there had been speculation – refuted by the PSNI – that the attack had been motivated by Brexit.

In the statement, the group also denied Brexit was responsible.

“All this talk of Brexit, hard borders, soft borders, has no bearing on our actions and the IRA won’t be going anywhere,” the statement said. “Our fight goes on.”

It appears that Brexit had nothing to do with their motives.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 30-01-2019 11:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I hadn't seen any mention of this statement in this thread yet, maybe Im wrong.

Group responsible for Derry bomb makes statement

The PSNI also believes the New IRA was behind three other hijackings of work vans, including a Royal Mail van and a supermarket delivery vehicle, in the city on January 21st.

It appears that Brexit had nothing to do with their motives.

who cares what those morons think.

FrancieBrady · 30-01-2019 11:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I hadn't seen any mention of this statement in this thread yet, maybe Im wrong.

Group responsible for Derry bomb makes statement

The PSNI also believes the New IRA was behind three other hijackings of work vans, including a Royal Mail van and a supermarket delivery vehicle, in the city on January 21st.

It appears that Brexit had nothing to do with their motives.

Do you believe them?

I'd be skeptical, they will want to maintain the impression that they are always active but I think as Brexit/hard border approaches this will ramp up.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 12:18AM

zapitastas wrote: »

At this stage, let them leave with no deal. They will be back scrounging for some sort of a deal pretty quickly. Any hint of a border can be addressed then.

Added to that the Irish American lobby is starting to take a keen interest in the border situation. Should become an issue when looking for a trade deal on that side of the Atlantic as well

despite their apparent show of unity, i think the EU are actually deeply worried. Germany is heading for recession, and has almost halved its' growth forecast.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-30/germany-slashes-2019-growth-outlook-citing-trade-spats-brexit

Coveney looked genuinely scared earlier, and well he might. i recall the EU promising to stand by Ireland, as the IMF were booking their flights to Dublin.

FrancieBrady · 31-01-2019 12:23AM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

despite their apparent show of unity, i think the EU are actually deeply worried. Germany is heading for recession, and has almost halved its' growth forecast.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-30/germany-slashes-2019-growth-outlook-citing-trade-spats-brexit

Coveney looked genuinely scared earlier, and well he might. i recall the EU promising to stand by Ireland, as the IMF were booking their flights to Dublin.

Did you hear two German minsters address that today and the Dutch MEP double down on it?

'The EU would prefer a No deal to reopening Theresa's deal'.

Yet you spin this mystery 'deep worry' and fear with not a link to back it up.

steddyeddy · 31-01-2019 12:44AM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

despite their apparent show of unity, i think the EU are actually deeply worried. Germany is heading for recession, and has almost halved its' growth forecast.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-30/germany-slashes-2019-growth-outlook-citing-trade-spats-brexit

Coveney looked genuinely scared earlier, and well he might. i recall the EU promising to stand by Ireland, as the IMF were booking their flights to Dublin.

Only a Brexiter could see continued reiteration of the words "no renegotiation" and think the EU 27 are scared.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 01:15AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Only a Brexiter could see continued reiteration of the words "no renegotiation" and think the EU 27 are scared.

do you actually believe everything these EU bureaucrats tell you?
my God you do, don't you!

German growth has halved, Italy is already in recession, France is not too far behind. The UK is about to leave. So who's left? Which economic powerhouses will the EU turn to? Lithuania? Bulgaria? Greece? LOL

The EU is in a very fragile state and is heading for a crash with or without Brexit. The UK will likely flourish in the long term, after a very painful post-Brexit period.
But in reality Brexit is just a sideshow.
Just wait until the ECB has to reintroduce QE. Personally, i think the whole thing will implode. Brexit will merely be the last straw, or the match that lit the fuse.

If you think Juncker and his buddies aren't nervous, then like many other uninformed posters on these boards, you are WRONG!

Junkyard Tom · 31-01-2019 01:21AM

Nearly half of Britain's exports go to the EU. If he EU slows Britain slows. When Britain has to reinstate regulatory checks, that were done away with by being in the CU & SM, it will truly be the sick man of Northern Europe.

FrancieBrady · 31-01-2019 01:23AM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

do you actually believe everything these EU bureaucrats tell you?
my God you do, don't you!

German growth has halved, Italy is already in recession, France is not too far behind. The UK is about to leave. So who's left? Which economic powerhouses will the EU turn to? Lithuania? Bulgaria? Greece? LOL

The EU is in a very fragile state and is heading for a crash with or without Brexit. The UK will likely flourish in the long term, after a very painful post-Brexit period.
But in reality Brexit is just a sideshow.
Just wait until the ECB has to reintroduce QE. Personally, i think the whole thing will implode. Brexit will merely be the last straw, or the match that lit the fuse.

If you think Juncker and his buddies aren't nervous, then like many other uninformed posters on these boards, you are WRONG!

Any back up at all, or did you hear this down the pub or from Sammy?

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 01:07PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Any back up at all, or did you hear this down the pub or from Sammy?

you do understand don't you (i'm probably making a silly assumption here btw) that when you see Junker the Flunker, or Simple Simon or Leo the Lad, or Treesa the Terrible on tv, that's just window dressing. that's aimed at gullible fools like you. who swallow, and regurgitate it down the pub like it was the word of God, while mutilating The Fields of Athenry.

the REAL negotiations will take place behind the scenes away from the cameras. phone calls will be made over the weekend (if indeed they haven't already), and the main topic of discussion will be ? you guessed it. THE BACKSTOP.

changes, amendments, additions, codicils will be concocted. nothing dramatic. but fudge will be manufactured. all parties will declare victory.
the alternative is to destroy the economies of Britian, Ireland, and possibly lead to the collapse of the EU.

Please! please don't tell me Mamma Merkel & Co. are going to risk that for a few sheep farmers along the border. Surely not even you are that stupid!

31-01-2019 01:14PM

Ironically being posted by someone who sounds like they're hammered in a pub.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 01:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ironically being posted by someone who sounds like they're hammered in a pub.

i'm gettin a few in ahead of the match. important to get a clear run at the day.

"low lie the ffffielllllllldddds ................":D

btw you'll get very good odds on England. worth a punt?

maccored · 31-01-2019 01:28PM

I dont think it matters what the new ira say. brexit will give people living there a reason to mistrust the British once more, which will lead to more support of armed resistance. groups like the IRA, provos and now the new ira can only thrive when they have support from their local communities. Brexit will supply this.

maccored · 31-01-2019 01:30PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Please! please don't tell me Mamma Merkel & Co. are going to risk that for a few sheep farmers along the border. Surely not even you are that stupid!

Do you think that's all the problem will be? Surely not even you are that stupid!

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 01:38PM

maccored wrote: »

I dont think it matters what the new ira say. brexit will give people living there a reason to mistrust the British once more,

you mean you dont mistrust them already! i'm shocked by your magnanimity. :eek:

maccored wrote: »

which will lead to more support of armed resistance. criminal gangs groups like the IRA, provos and now the new ira can only thrive when they have support from their local communities. Brexit will supply this.

there you go. fixed that for ya!

maccored · 31-01-2019 02:05PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

you mean you dont mistrust them already! i'm shocked by your magnanimity. :eek:

there you go. fixed that for ya!

jaysus but that's immature. you should move up north for a while. you might get some kind of clue if you did.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 02:13PM

maccored wrote: »

jaysus but that's immature. you should move up north for a while. you might get some kind of clue if you did.

good comeback buddy. you got me there.

31-01-2019 02:35PM

maccored wrote: »

I dont think it matters what the new ira say. brexit will give people living there a reason to mistrust the British once more, which will lead to more support of armed resistance. groups like the IRA, provos and now the new ira can only thrive when they have support from their local communities. Brexit will supply this.

you sound excited

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 02:36PM

Aegir wrote: »

you sound excited

and he accuses me of immaturity!

FrancieBrady · 31-01-2019 06:08PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

you do understand don't you (i'm probably making a silly assumption here btw) that when you see Junker the Flunker, or Simple Simon or Leo the Lad, or Treesa the Terrible on tv, that's just window dressing. that's aimed at gullible fools like you. who swallow, and regurgitate it down the pub like it was the word of God, while mutilating The Fields of Athenry.

the REAL negotiations will take place behind the scenes away from the cameras. phone calls will be made over the weekend (if indeed they haven't already), and the main topic of discussion will be ? you guessed it. THE BACKSTOP.

changes, amendments, additions, codicils will be concocted. nothing dramatic. but fudge will be manufactured. all parties will declare victory.
the alternative is to destroy the economies of Britian, Ireland, and possibly lead to the collapse of the EU.

Please! please don't tell me Mamma Merkel & Co. are going to risk that for a few sheep farmers along the border. Surely not even you are that stupid!

If the UK come up with viable alternatives then I am all for it.

But the fools have not been able to convince anyone that their alternatives will work.

Therefore, there will be no deal without a backstop. Simple. And in 2 years they have not been able to fudge, change, amend, add codicils or otherwise.

I don't think it likely over the weekend either.

So it's No Deal (too scared to do that) Theresa's Deal (if she can buy a few more MP's off instead of buying the DUP - then maybe she'll swing it) or Revoke The Whole Sorry Mess (Francie's Tip is this is what will happen)

maccored · 31-01-2019 07:12PM

Aegir wrote: »

you sound excited

i sound excited? Seriously, explain that to me.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 31-01-2019 07:46PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If the UK come up with viable alternatives then I am all for it.

But the fools have not been able to convince anyone that their alternatives will work.

Therefore, there will be no deal without a backstop. Simple. And in 2 years they have not been able to fudge, change, amend, add codicils or otherwise.

I don't think it likely over the weekend either.

So it's No Deal (too scared to do that) Theresa's Deal (if she can buy a few more MP's off instead of buying the DUP - then maybe she'll swing it) or Revoke The Whole Sorry Mess (Francie's Tip is this is what will happen)

i hope you are right. it's been a sad & sorry mess, and has sucked the oxygen out of almost everything else.
who knows what nonsense still awaits us?

FrancieBrady · 31-01-2019 08:16PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

i hope you are right. it's been a sad & sorry mess, and has sucked the oxygen out of almost everything else.
who knows what nonsense still awaits us?

Even if they pull out of Brexit the continuing break-up of the UK awaits. History will see this as a 20 year ish period. And we are just 7 or 8 years in imo.

01-02-2019 11:58AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Do you believe them?

I'd be skeptical, they will want to maintain the impression that they are always active but I think as Brexit/hard border approaches this will ramp up.

As much as I dont want to believe it, I'd be afraid that this will kick off again unfortunately. I have watched a few documentaries on Youtube about dissident republicans to see that there would be enough support to ignite another campaign of violence.

Their statement looks like a threat to the PSNI.

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-02-2019 12:22PM

"If" there is a border and "if" the idiots do decide to kick ofd again I'm hopeful that the powers that be will stamp them out with swift and decisive action.

Ragnar Lothbrok · 01-02-2019 05:28PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

"If" there is a border and "if" the idiots do decide to kick ofd again I'm hopeful that the powers that be will stamp them out with swift and decisive action.

That's never happened and never will. "Stamping them out with swift and decisive action" usually means just rounding up the Catholics and acting brutally in nationalist areas. Hardly a successful British tactic in the past.

FrancieBrady · 01-02-2019 05:43PM

There will be much surprise and knashing at teeth at how much support there is, if there is a hard border. Many many people were promised this would not happen.

I can see a massive campaign of civil disobedience to kick it all off. The 'filling in of roads' it was called last time.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 01-02-2019 07:00PM

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

That's never happened and never will. "Stamping them out with swift and decisive action" usually means just rounding up the Catholics and acting brutally in nationalist areas. Hardly a successful British tactic in the past.

i agree the SAS proved much more successful in bringing them to their knees.

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-02-2019 07:19PM

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

That's never happened and never will. "Stamping them out with swift and decisive action" usually means just rounding up the Catholics and acting brutally in nationalist areas. Hardly a successful British tactic in the past.

A few sudden deaths in the upper echelons of these so called "freedom fighters" would soon have their foot soldiers running back to mammys.

01-02-2019 07:39PM

Europe will never allow Ireland and Britain strike a deal on the border because Europe wants Britian to suffer. Brussels is salivating at the thought of a conflagration in the north and will help it on its way if they dont let Ireland and Britain make a deal with the border.

Car bomb has exploded in Derry City Centre

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