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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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  • #5372
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    mayota wrote:
    They’ll have had the cheques cashed in a local shop or business and be long gone.


    According to the report in the Times the lady managed to get several of the cheques cancelled.


  • #5373
    emeldc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭emeldc


    mayota wrote: »
    They’ll have had the cheques cashed in a local shop or business and be long gone.

    That's the bit I'll never understand. Who in their right mind would cash a cheque for any of these skangers. When all the cheques are stopped the businesses will lose out............and they'll deserve it.


  • #5374
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,142 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    According to the report in the Times the lady managed to get several of the cheques cancelled.


    if they managed to find somebody stupid enough to take the cheque from them before she did this it becomes somebody elses problem.


  • #5375
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    McGrath5 wrote: »
    These traveling sales people are a common problem around the country, looks like our favorite minority is behind it.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2019/0129/1026215-bantry-cork/

    Neither report that I have seen on this mentions whether or not they are travellers. I'm quite certain that they are, of course, but I don't think it has been confirmed either way.


  • #5376
    airy fairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Neither report that I have seen on this mentions whether or not they are travellers. I'm quite certain that they are, of course, but I don't think it has been confirmed either way.

    If it was confirmed by media that they were travellers, there'd be unmerciful screeching from that minority shouting racism.
    We all know who committed this crime, but we're not allowed say, cause it's not pc.


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  • #5377
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    airy fairy wrote: »
    If it was confirmed by media that they were travellers, there'd be unmerciful screeching from that minority shouting racism.
    We all know who committed this crime, but we're not allowed say, cause it's not pc.

    Give over. The majority aren't racist that's why. I'm not even defending Travelers, just your idea that only the minority aren't racist is an insult to Irish society never mind Travelers. I don't believe we're a nation of silent racists. Racists tend to like the sound of their own voice.


  • #5378
    hawkelady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Give over. The majority aren't racist that's why. I'm not even defending Travelers, just your idea that only the minority aren't racist is an insult to Irish society never mind Travelers. I don't believe we're a nation of silent racists. Racists tend to like the sound of their own voice.

    What are you on about. He is right. If a newspaper said they are travellers , joe Duffy would be roaring crying about the racist comment. Unless a traveller has been convicted of a crime
    , you won’t hear any news outlet use the word traveller , even though we all bloody know it’s them that’s committing crimes


  • #5379
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    airy fairy wrote: »
    If it was confirmed by media that they were travellers, there'd be unmerciful screeching from that minority shouting racism.
    We all know who committed this crime, but we're not allowed say, cause it's not pc.

    This nonsense about not being able to criticise travellers needs to stop. I don't know where it started but it's brought up here all the time. It's like something out of a Daily Mail comment section.

    There's only a handful of people in here, and they aren't taken seriously, who'll shout racism at traveller criticism. You shouldn't be afraid of what someone who thinks the settled people are dumping waste in halting sites or someone who thinks travellers are comparable to the Amish says. You need to toughen up if those types intimidate you.

    This idea that you can't criticise travellers because of "PC GONE MAD" needs to die.


  • #5380
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    hawkelady wrote: »
    What are you on about. He is right. If a newspaper said they are travellers , joe Duffy would be roaring crying about the racist comment.

    Oh noes, John Connors will be on Joe Duffy so nobody can say anything.

    It's crazy how soft people are becoming if they think they can't criticise or mention travellers because of what some muppet says on a phone-in show.


  • #5381
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    hawkelady wrote: »
    What are you on about. He is right. If a newspaper said they are travellers , joe Duffy would be roaring crying about the racist comment. Unless a traveller has been convicted of a crime
    , you won’t hear any news outlet use the word traveller , even though we all bloody know it’s them that’s committing crimes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9HBWKNGNE8

    Funny how often Joe asks how do you know they are travellers?


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  • #5382
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,142 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Oh noes, John Connors will be on Joe Duffy so nobody can say anything.

    It's crazy how soft people are becoming if they think they can't criticise or mention travellers because of what some muppet says on a phone-in show.


    From reading this thread i dont think people have too much of problem criticising travelers :)


  • #5383
    Paddy Cow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    This nonsense about not being able to criticise travellers needs to stop. I don't know where it started but it's brought up here all the time. It's like something out of a Daily Mail comment section.

    There's only a handful of people in here, and they aren't taken seriously, who'll shout racism at traveller criticism. You shouldn't be afraid of what someone who thinks the settled people are dumping waste in halting sites or someone who thinks travellers are comparable to the Amish says. You need to toughen up if those types intimidate you.

    This idea that you can't criticise travellers because of "PC GONE MAD" needs to die.
    Did you see what happened to Peter Casey? He was absolutely torn apart by the media and other politicians, despite most of the country agreeing with him. It's not the people that are the problem. It's the media. For some reason I can't figure out they won't do proper reporting on travellers and stick to the narrative that their some sort of hard done by minority.


  • #5384
    hawkelady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Oh noes, John Connors will be on Joe Duffy so nobody can say anything.

    It's crazy how soft people are becoming if they think they can't criticise or mention travellers because of what some muppet says on a phone-in show.

    Tell me why that article on RTÉ website didn’t say that those lads selling 12 chainsaws to an old lady were travellers ?? I’ll wait ... there is a reason they didn’t you know !


  • #5385
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Elderly woman pressured into buying 12 chainsaws, 11 generators and 7 power washers

    Gardaí have issued fraud advice to the public following the incident.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/elderly-woman-pressured-into-buying-12-chainsaws-11-generators-and-7-power-washers-4464707-Jan2019/

    Comments are closed for legal reasons.

    Be interesting to see what happens when the matter comes before the courts


  • #5386
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Elderly woman pressured into buying 12 chainsaws, 11 generators and 7 power washers

    Gardaí have issued fraud advice to the public following the incident.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/elderly-woman-pressured-into-buying-12-chainsaws-11-generators-and-7-power-washers-4464707-Jan2019/

    Funny how the Journal don't allow comments on the story

    I wonder why that is? ...

    Criminal proceedings? Thankfully the cheques were stopped.


  • #5387
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Criminal proceedings? Thankfully the cheques were stopped.

    Yeah i edited my response accordingly

    Some cheques were but i wouldn't be sure all were


  • #5388
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    hawkelady wrote: »
    What are you on about. He is right. If a newspaper said they are travellers , joe Duffy would be roaring crying about the racist comment. Unless a traveller has been convicted of a crime
    , you won’t hear any news outlet use the word traveller , even though we all bloody know it’s them that’s committing crimes

    You can pass judgment with out all the facts as you like. I'm saying I don't believe racists are in the majority.


  • #5389
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    Did you see what happened to Peter Casey? He was absolutely torn apart by the media and other politicians, despite most of the country agreeing with him. It's not the people that are the problem. It's the media. For some reason I can't figure out they won't do proper reporting on travellers and stick to the narrative that their some sort of hard done by minority.

    Rightly. Casey was the only knac*** is that whole embarrassing run for President. He was torn apart because only a minority were fooled by his stirring up hate to get noticed in a race full of chancers. The majority voted on that one.


  • #5390
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    hawkelady wrote: »
    Tell me why that article on RTÉ website didn’t say that those lads selling 12 chainsaws to an old lady were travellers ?? I’ll wait ... there is a reason they didn’t you know !

    So we don't know they weren't so they must be ;) got it.


  • #5391
    hawkelady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    So we don't know they weren't so they must be ;) got it.

    You must live in a cave with no WiFi. Believe me,it was either travellers or those pesky coillte lads selling their chainsaws again .. they’re always at it !!
    Ps, cause I sense you might be a bit gullible , that was a joke about the coillte lads ... it was definitely travellers.


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  • #5392
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    hawkelady wrote: »
    Tell me why that article on RTÉ website didn’t say that those lads selling 12 chainsaws to an old lady were travellers ?? I’ll wait ... there is a reason they didn’t you know !

    I can only speculate but my guess is that they have some internal policy of not naming the ethnicity of criminals or suspects until they can publish names. Even at that, they tend not to mention ethnicity and instead opt for country of origin. When it comes to travellers, the most you'll get will be "John Fingers Ward, his cousin, John Slashhook Ward and their father, John Shíteinabucket Ward of no fixed abode in Rathkeale were arrested today on suspicion of causing affray at a graveyard during a funeral in Longford" so you can usually work out that they might be travellers.

    I don't agree with this policy, as it happens. If you live in the country and you're hearing about gangs up to no good in the area, it would be helpful to know what to look out for. If RTE know that these are traveller gangs, they should publish that information.

    My main argument in the earlier posts is that there are too many people who have this mistaken belief that you can't criticise travellers without being crucified.


  • #5393
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Rightly. Casey was the only knac*** is that whole embarrassing run for President. He was torn apart because only a minority were fooled by his stirring up hate to get noticed in a race full of chancers. The majority voted on that one.

    Casey was torn to shreds because beyond "I don't like travellers", he had nothing to offer. It was cynical pandering.

    His voters got a hard time because anyone who falls for this kind of pandering is the kind of person who shouldn't look at a monorail catalogue.


  • #5394
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,413 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Guys if you want to discuss the chainsaw incident! There a thread here.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057950902


  • #5395
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    hawkelady wrote: »
    You must live in a cave with no WiFi. Believe me,it was either travellers or those pesky coillte lads selling their chainsaws again .. they’re always at it !!
    Ps, cause I sense you might be a bit gullible , that was a joke about the coillte lads ... it was definitely travellers.

    Because I'll only get the truth from threads like this?
    It may well have been Travelers. I don't know. Saying RTE or who ever won't say it was, when they likely don't know for a fact, is because the minority that aren't racist will kick off is bollocks quite frankly. It's stirring, scaremongering with a touch of conspiracy theory.

    The reason why threads like this aren't seen on the news is because IMO the majority aren't racist and don't want news based on a hunch, how ever right that hunch might be.


  • #5396
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    If they had been caught and charged then they could do a background check and identify them as travellers if that was the case.

    Even though travellers are known for this kind of thing they can't print that it was them with out details of the suspects.


  • #5397
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    Did you see what happened to Peter Casey? He was absolutely torn apart by the media and other politicians, despite most of the country agreeing with him. It's not the people that are the problem. It's the media. For some reason I can't figure out they won't do proper reporting on travellers and stick to the narrative that their some sort of hard done by minority.

    You need to understand the basic point that for liberals, once you have a minority profile, you are a sacred cow, everything else flows from this base point in terns of discussion, on matt Coopers dreadful radio show a fortnight ago, a panel discussion on the weeks events moved to the tinkers who caused havoc in new Zealand, one of the PC bot number 2 on the panel took off and managed to turn the marauding travellers into victims of prejudice on the part of the kiwi press and society, this despite the blatantly obvious glaring fact that new Zealand doesn't have a traveller community and the new Zealanders just naturally reacted to the lawless savages in their midst

    A narative surrounding travellers exists in the PC Liberal Bible and the media practitioners adhere to the faith fullsomely


  • #5398
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Casey was torn to shreds because beyond "I don't like travellers", he had nothing to offer. It was cynical pandering.

    His voters got a hard time because anyone who falls for this kind of pandering is the kind of person who shouldn't look at a monorail catalogue.

    Did he actually say that, though? Why don't we go over his actual comments and see what, exactly, is wrong with what he said:
    They're not paying their fair share of taxes in society

    Statistically have a high percentage of unemployed paying 0 in income tax, and over-represented in the prison population placing a huge burden on taxpayers. Plus does anyone in the land believe they declare all their income to revenue? Do they F***. So this one is true.
    In response to the ethnic minority issue: "Load of nonsense, they're not from Romany or whatever"

    Also true, they're not from Romany.
    "Somebody needs to sit up and say this is nonsense. Here we are giving them luxurious houses and they’re turning them down because they’ve no stables."

    Again, true. They did turn them down and somebody does need to talk about it.
    They are encouraged to think that they are different, they are not. They should think and act as Irish people, not necessarily as different to everyone else, then their children end up thinking that they are different and it’s harder for their children to fit into society

    Subjective......but there's nothing derogatory or defamatory in calling travelers Irish. His point about the divisive nature of being 'different' is right on the money.
    On Pavee Point: They let down the Travelling community. They should have gone down there and said ‘you are not looking good here’ and they should have represented the Travelling community.

    Also true. Pavee point are lightning rods for taking offense when travelers are painted in a less than positive light......EXCEPT when it is the travelers' own actions which are doing the painting. Show me one example of PP condemning the actions of travelers, either singularly or as a whole?

    And finally......
    Let's call a spade a spade. Your house price doesn't start going through the roof as soon as you get two dozen Travellers moving in down the street from you

    Anyone who says they would purchase a new gaff next door to a halting site is a liar.


    So, what is incorrect or untrue about any of that? Where did he ever say he doesn't like travelers? What is so inflammatory about the remarks at all? It's all true, and yet PP do their usual job of screaming blue murder when the poor auld tinkers are in the crosshairs.

    Gimme a break.

    Where will they be when the next pub or hotel is trashed? OR when some poor horse is killed / left for dead on the side of the road in Navan?

    F***in' Nowhere.


  • #5399
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Did he actually say that, though? Why don't we go over his actual comments and see what, exactly, is wrong with what he said:

    That point was flippant. He didn't literally say "I don't like travellers". My point was that his whole campaign was little more than a complaint about travellers and shag all else. Anyone with a basic knowledge of history and politics would have had alarm bells going off with that while the less informed were able to say to themselves, "He tells it like it is".


  • #5400
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    He said lots of things and then after he said he did not consider travellers an ethnic minority(something he didn't know would be so popular) a large percentage of the population agreed with him.
    Is there anything racist about saying you consider travellers to be the same race as yourself?


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  • #5401
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,275 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    normanoffside wrote: »
    John Says that Carricmines is racist murder

    https://twitter.com/johnconnors1990/status/1088122898009731072

    She's a week late but Mags just shared this and says he is 100% right.

    Two peas in a pod.


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