Plumbthedepths wrote: » According to the report in the Times the lady managed to get several of the cheques cancelled.
mayota wrote: » They’ll have had the cheques cashed in a local shop or business and be long gone.
mayota wrote: They’ll have had the cheques cashed in a local shop or business and be long gone.
Paddy Cow wrote: » How long before the "salesmen" realise they've been had and return looking for their money?
trout wrote: » Shocking criminal behaviour there ... that lady cancelled the cheques, but kept the goods!
McGrath5 wrote: » These traveling sales people are a common problem around the country, looks like our favorite minority is behind it.https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2019/0129/1026215-bantry-cork/
tuxy wrote: » Because they don't want their culture to die out. If they went to school and got jobs it would only take a few generations for them to be completely indistinguishable from the rest of the population. Their whole culture depends on the continuation of this ignorant old fashioned ways. This is why I find their ethnic status odd, does the government want them to go to school and integrate with society or to continue as is?
BattleCorp wrote: » They don't value it because there's more money to be had the other way. As the saying goes 'a crooked pound is as good as an honest pound'. And that was said to me by a traveller. Look, all the discussion in the world isn't going to make a blind bit of difference. Travellers won't engage and tow the line when it comes to responsibility etc. They won't change unless they have to change. And that's not going to happen because we are bending our laws to suit them. Or at least not enforcing them. Here is one example - So what if it's their culture to keep horses, so we have to get them accommodation with stables etc? Could I say the same if I was from gentry and fell on hard times? Us gentry always had horses, I need stables with my council house? Get ta feck.
Gravelly wrote: » Unfortunately, as Casey found out, there is no debate - it's either shut your mouth or be called a racist. There's no space in Irish media or politics for a debate, therefore people will lash out in frustration on the forums they can.
SirChenjin wrote: » https://connachttribune.ie/homeless-cousin-of-carrickmines-victims-criticises-galway-council-090/ And on and on it goes.
Gravelly wrote: » Sharing ira posts on Facebook is about as sure a sign of an idiot as one could ever wish for.
mikhail wrote: » I'm no fan of the travellers, but this is going too far, and puts me in mind of old punch cartoons. The British weren't just making **** up. Poor, uneducated groups tend to have these problems. The travellers would be grand if only their kids saw out their education. Spewing bile about them being subhuman is pig-ignorant.
AllForIt wrote: » Travelers in comparison to the Irish of old have no intention of bettering themselves not only because if they did they wouldn't feel they are travelers anymore and no different from the rest of us. I'm loath to use the term settled ppl except to say I'm loath to use the term. The Irish of old immigrated all over the world to better their lives when it wasn't possible in Ireland at the time they did. I think it is absurd to compare the Irish of old to travellers when the prosperous but not perfect condition of this country today came about precislty because of the hard working ethic of previous generations , for which the current traveller generation can thank for they generous social welfare payments. Travellers have done absolutely nothing to add to the economic advancement of this country. It is not racism to point out the reality of the traveller attitude. Your right to point out insulting language as you quoted, there is no need for that, and it damages the valid points ppl have to make. But I don't accept that racism is the root cause of traveller issues.
Patrick2010 wrote: » Mags is quite an IRA supporter isn’t she? She retweet’s a lot of ira posts like today someone called Laura Costello going on about up the IRA
mikhail wrote: » The short versions is because their parents don't value it, which is enabled and exacerbated by a failing national policy because it's a politically unpalatable topic. I'm not arguing that. I'm saying that calling them "in reality a less developed form of life" is exactly the sort of repulsive racism that was directed at this nation. It's fuel for the kinds of folks who think pointing out secondary school completion rates or incarceration rates for travellers amounts to racism. The debate has to be better than that, or it will continue to be impossible outside of some ranty little thread in a corner of the internet.
Paddy Cow wrote: » I remember watching that "Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" show a few years ago and some of the girls were asked what they wanted in a husband. Top of their list was someone who wouldn't beat them :eek: Fcuks sake like. They were discussing it so casually, like your husband hitting you was something you could expect and be lucky to avoid. I know settled people also commit domestic violence but the default position we have when entering relationships is that violence from either party is unacceptable.
Gravelly wrote: » Why is it, do you think, that their children don't see out their education?
ampleforth wrote: » Here is a bit of her mindset: https://www.facebook.com/NiallBoylanAtNight/videos/margaret-cash-live-on-the-niall-boylan-show/284234262185509/ Good luck with that. 300 Euro in Penny --- if I add up everything that I ever bought in years I might not match that. I hope she did not get hernia from the weight...
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