Toyota Rav 4 hybrid

AlanD · 24-01-2019 03:13PM

roosterman71 wrote: »

Our CH-R is on full battery below 30kph. Out on the national roads, and more so on the motorway it's on the engine 100%

What mpg or l/100km are you averaging?

zilog_jones · 24-01-2019 03:30PM

Average here over 367 C-HR users is 5.35 l/100km (53 MPG): https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/49-Toyota/1563-C-HR.html?fueltype=2&minkm=2000&sort=3&powerunit=2

bp_me · 24-01-2019 03:36PM

Mine (CHR) is doing 5.7l/100km over past 15k km. Thats about 1/3 motorway (including 2500km of continental motorway) driven at or close to posted rather than indicated limited. Remainder is made up of mostly short hops around town where the engine would never warm up probably with a few longer (10-20km) routes on average once a week.

Thats an improvement on the auris that did 6.4 lifetime over 58k km.

roosterman71 · 24-01-2019 03:37PM

AlanD wrote: »

What mpg or l/100km are you averaging?

Only have it a few weeks. Last tank averaged 5.8l/km

AlanD · 24-01-2019 04:00PM

5.7 l/100km is what I am averaging in a Mazda 3 2.2 diesel. With a nice mix of driving. A lot of just around town, but about 1000km p/m motorway. I feel I would struggle to get that in a hybrid.

Although I did drive the RAV4 and really liked it.

Mach Two · 24-01-2019 05:04PM

Anybody know of the electricity consumption per 100 km in an all electric vehicle.

zilog_jones · 24-01-2019 05:15PM

Around 15-20 kWh/100km is typical, I think.

I'm getting about 16 kWh/100km in EV mode in my Prius Plug-in, though that mode only operates at speeds up to 85 km/h.

Mach Two · 24-01-2019 07:20PM

zilog_jones wrote: »

Around 15-20 kWh/100km is typical, I think.

I'm getting about 16 kWh/100km in EV mode in my Prius Plug-in, though that mode only operates at speeds up to 85 km/h.

How do you like the Prius Plug-in. That is 53 mph. I drive a lot on country roads. Does it not work on electric only. Can you put a tow bar on it.

zilog_jones · 25-01-2019 12:15PM

I like it, as the short range suits my commute. There's only about 6 in the country so I'm probably in the minority though (1st gen Plug-in from 2012-2016 wasn't sold in Ireland).

Does what not work on electric only? If you're in EV mode, and go over 85 km/h, the engine kicks in.

It's not approved for towing, but there's a tow bar available for a bike rack. The 4th generation standard Prius (2016 onwards) can tow, but not the new Plug-in version.

Mach Two · 25-01-2019 03:16PM

zilog_jones wrote: »

I like it, as the short range suits my commute. There's only about 6 in the country so I'm probably in the minority though (1st gen Plug-in from 2012-2016 wasn't sold in Ireland).

Does what not work on electric only? If you're in EV mode, and go over 85 km/h, the engine kicks in.

It's not approved for towing, but there's a tow bar available for a bike rack. The 4th generation standard Prius (2016 onwards) can tow, but not the new Plug-in version.

How do you mean by the "4th generation standard Prius". What is meant by standard.

zilog_jones · 25-01-2019 03:18PM

Not the PHV version, the normal Prius is not a plug-in hybrid.

Mach Two · 25-01-2019 05:56PM

zilog_jones wrote: »

Not the PHV version, the normal Prius is not a plug-in hybrid.

If you kept under 85 km any idea how far would a full charge carry you. As in how many km's.

I think the new ones are a plug in hybrid.

Shefwedfan · 16-02-2019 10:18PM

Sat in one of the new RAV4 today, actually very impressive......

The boot seemed fairly big compared to other Crossovers I have looked at, I didn't have a chance to test drive but actually considering buying one :-)

scooby77 · 17-02-2019 01:21PM

Full spec and pricing, including AWD, now available to configure on Toyota website. As I mentioned previously AWD getting great reviews.
As it's an extra motor and not drive gear doesnt have massive impact on fuel efficiency or weight. only 0.2 l/100 km in WLTP.
Unfortunately its €4k more in AWD which probably puts it into some premium brand territory in Sol spec. Overall the new Rav is pricey though.

Shefwedfan · 17-02-2019 01:59PM

scooby77 wrote: »

Full spec and pricing, including AWD, now available to configure on Toyota website. As I mentioned previously AWD getting great reviews.
As it's an extra motor and not drive gear doesnt have massive impact on fuel efficiency or weight. only 0.2 l/100 km in WLTP.
Unfortunately its €4k more in AWD which probably puts it into some premium brand territory in Sol spec. Overall the new Rav is pricey though.

Depending on your requirements they have some in stock and ready to deliver

Katie9 · 18-02-2019 10:34PM

Is the Rav 4 Hybrid Sol worth the extra €2,000? Recent newspaper review suggests possibly not!

I drive 320 mile round trip weekly - Toyota dealer assured me the electric system will operate when on motorways - I assumed electric system would only kick in at low speeds. Is the dealer advice correct?

bp_me · 18-02-2019 10:51PM

Katie9 wrote: »

Is the Rav 4 Hybrid Sol worth the extra €2,000? Recent newspaper review suggests possibly not!

I drive 320 mile round trip weekly - Toyota dealer assured me the electric system will operate when on motorways - I assumed electric system would only kick in at low speeds. Is the dealer advice correct?

Dealer is right(ish).

You can see it on the info display. Mostly on motorway you will be on the ICE but because of the way the gearbox works there is always a tiny parasitic charge going through MGU1/2. In order to keep the battery in the SOC range the car likes it will regularly do a small discharge while driving at motorway pace.

Also if you are going down a long incline or similar the ICE will shut off completely and the car will drive down on the MGU (up to 100kph if I remember correctly) or if using cruise will actively slow the car using the MGUs to maintain speed.

Shefwedfan · 18-02-2019 10:58PM

Took the RAV for test drive today. It is a lot better to the older model. Really nice to drive

Shocked to see that Apple Carplay does not come with the car and that at the moment they have no idea if they will allow you to upgrade to include it.....very poor for a car in 2019 that would cost nearly 40k, in reality once I get my extras it will be 40k

AlanD · 19-02-2019 12:10AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Took the RAV for test drive today. It is a lot better to the older model. Really nice to drive

Shocked to see that Apple Carplay does not come with the car and that at the moment they have no idea if they will allow you to upgrade to include it.....very poor for a car in 2019 that would cost nearly 40k, in reality once I get my extras it will be 40k

I read that Europe licensing has not been sorted for apple carplay and android auto. In US it's up and running. What I read is that it will be pushed out in Europe once sorted. It's ready to take it just not turned on.

whiterebel · 19-02-2019 01:16AM

AlanD wrote: »

I read that Europe licensing has not been sorted for apple carplay and android auto. In US it's up and running. What I read is that it will be pushed out in Europe once sorted. It's ready to take it just not turned on.

Audi are saying Carplay works in their cars. I thought other manufacturers have it too?

unkel · 19-02-2019 02:13AM

Apple Carplay and Android Auto are standard in the 2016 Hyundai Ioniq. No costs.

Shefwedfan · 19-02-2019 08:42AM

AlanD wrote: »

I read that Europe licensing has not been sorted for apple carplay and android auto. In US it's up and running. What I read is that it will be pushed out in Europe once sorted. It's ready to take it just not turned on.

VW has it in the 2017 eGolf

You know more than the Toyota guy who said he asked Toyota and they hadn’t got it and at the moment no plan to allow an upgrade

Of course sales man said they would in future but I don’t believe a word of it, might head down to Honda and see if they have it

AlanD · 19-02-2019 08:51AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

VW has it in the 2017 eGolf

You know more than the Toyota guy who said he asked Toyota and they hadn’t got it and at the moment no plan to allow an upgrade

Of course sales man said they would in future but I don’t believe a word of it, might head down to Honda and see if they have it

In my experience, sales men and detailed car knowledge don't always go hand in hand

roosterman71 · 19-02-2019 08:58AM

Review of the Rav4 went up yesterday for anyone interested in someone elses opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37M0211cnIY

Shefwedfan · 19-02-2019 09:05AM

roosterman71 wrote: »

Review of the Rav4 went up yesterday for anyone interested in someone elses opinion

Watched it and really wasn't fantastic.....no real details like battery size....no comparison to CRV hybrid etc.....

bp_me · 19-02-2019 09:16AM

Toyota hybrid batteries are typically 200v and between 700 and 1200 Wh. The plugin Prius is the only one that's bigger.

zilog_jones · 19-02-2019 10:17AM

It's a 1.6 kWh Ni-MH battery in the new RAV4

AlanD · 19-02-2019 03:47PM

This is the full version of that video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0pcYRFlLe0

Katie9 · 20-02-2019 01:15AM

Hi all!

Any thoughts on whether the Sol version of the Rav4 hybrid is worth the €2,000 extra over the Luna model?

RegardsðŸ˜€

Shefwedfan · 20-02-2019 03:42AM

Katie9 wrote: »

Hi all!

Any thoughts on whether the Sol version of the Rav4 hybrid is worth the €2,000 extra over the Luna model?

RegardsðŸ˜€

Not if CarPlay can be added

I got a price to stick in the tinted windows to the Luna

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