Car bomb has exploded in Derry City Centre

FrancieBrady · 23-01-2019 08:09PM

RobMc59 wrote: »

The British may be responsible for a lot of bad things in Ireland and have done some terrible things to the Irish which will probably never be forgotten or forgiven but you can`t blame them for EVERYTHING-these people planting bombs could`nt give a toss for the people of Derry,if they did they would`nt be doing it.It`s a disgrace and is only hurting the ordinary people.

Who is blaming them 'for everything'?

Partition is the problem Rob. If we can't sort that then the problem will reoccur on a cyclical basis.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-01-2019 08:37PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who is blaming them 'for everything'?

Partition is the problem Rob. If we can't sort that then the problem will reoccur on a cyclical basis.

so if partition is the problem, what is your solution?
bombing/killing innocent people until they agree with you?

FrancieBrady · 23-01-2019 08:40PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

so if partition is the problem, what is your solution

End partition?

I normally advocate removing/fixing the problem first. Not sure 'not caring' cuts the proverbial mustard here.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-01-2019 08:55PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

End partition?

I normally advocate removing/fixing the problem first. Not sure 'not caring' cuts the proverbial mustard here.

and you're confident our Prostestant neighbours will go along with this great vision of yours?

or do you care?

James Brown · 23-01-2019 09:05PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

and you're confident our Prostestant neighbours will go along with this great vision of yours?

or do you care?

Don't you mean Unionists? There are plenty of Protestants and Catholics who couldn't give a monkeys.

Mind you, they could go the British route and just take over by murder and theft, then set up a 'democracy' after the fact.

FrancieBrady · 23-01-2019 09:08PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Don't you mean Unionists? There are plenty of Protestants and Catholics who couldn't give a monkeys.

Plenty of protestants (my wife and her family) who have no problem with a UI.

You'd have to wonder why someone who 'doesn't care' would now be worried what one religion would think of a UI.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-01-2019 09:38PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Plenty of protestants (my wife and her family) who have no problem with a UI.

You'd have to wonder why someone who 'doesn't care' would now be worried what one religion would think of a UI.

well francie it looks like you got it all sorted then.
for the life of me i dont know what all the fuss is about.
fair play to ya!

altogether now
"a nation once again ......."

23-01-2019 09:39PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

End partition?

I normally advocate removing/fixing the problem first. Not sure 'not caring' cuts the proverbial mustard here.

Ok, that’s one solution, but why would the uk take the Republic of Ireland back?

FrancieBrady · 23-01-2019 09:40PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

well francie it looks like you got it all sorted then.
for the life of me i dont know what all the fuss is about.
fair play to ya!

altogether now
"a nation once again ......."

DUP are sorting it.
Poetic justice in my book.

RobMc59 · 23-01-2019 09:45PM

Just an observation,but might it be better to agree to disagree?These seem like opinions that are poles apart and can`t be changed.

James Brown · 23-01-2019 09:46PM

Aegir wrote: »

Ok, that’s one solution, but why would the uk take the Republic of Ireland back?

There won't be any. Ireland however will be complete and Ulster will be reunited under one jurisdiction.

JupiterKid · 23-01-2019 09:48PM

Sad reminder of much darker times up North.

With a no deal Brexit and a potential hard border, expect to see more of this.

Thankfully no casualties.

pleas advice · 23-01-2019 09:50PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

There won't be any. Ireland however will be complete and Ulster will be reunited under one jurisdiction.

Whats the fascination with 'ulster' as a province though, you never hear calls to reunite Meath....

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-01-2019 09:56PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

DUP are sorting it.
Poetic justice in my book.

Excellent plan Frankie.
will you tell Arlene, or can i?

and there was me thinking the North was full of PTSD aflictees.
how i could have reached such a crazy conclusion ...?

FrancieBrady · 23-01-2019 10:12PM

RobMc59 wrote: »

Just an observation,but might it be better to agree to disagree?These seem like opinions that are poles apart and can`t be changed.

The GFA process is the mechanism to sort it out. The majority of people on this island signed up to it. As we keep being told...that is democracy. When a majority opt for a UI, I will expect those democrats to see to it that it is carried out.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-01-2019 10:40PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The GFA process is the mechanism to sort it out. The majority of people on this island signed up to it. As we keep being told...that is democracy. When a majority opt for a UI, I will expect those democrats to see to it that it is carried out.

and if perchance a section of the pop dont, well we can just send up a few dozen Gardaí to explain your plan to them. Frankie can i just say a big Thank you to you.

i cant wait to see Arlene's face when you explain your plan to her. i just know she's gonna be so grateful to you for sorting this whole mess out.

i'm very excited, if only you knew...
Frankie did i remember to say Thank you?

FrancieBrady · 23-01-2019 10:43PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

and if perchance a section of the pop dont, well we can just send up a few dozen Gardaí to explain your plan to them. Frankie can i just say a big Thank you to you.

i cant wait to see Arlene's face when you explain your plan to her. i just know she's gonna be so grateful to you for sorting this whole mess out.

i'm very excited, if only you knew...
Frankie did i remember to say Thank you?

What will it have to do with Arlene if a majority vote in favour? I sincerely hope someone in the Assembly would understand the internationally binding agreement the UK signed up to.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-01-2019 10:51PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What will it have to do with Arlene if a majority vote in favour? I sincerely hope someone in the Assembly would understand the internationally binding agreement the UK signed up to.

is that the assembly that collapsed in 2007 and hasn't been able to get it together since, despite the current Brexit situation looming?

i wouldn't worry about that Frankie. i have every confidence in them as i'm sure everyone that knows anything about how democracies function has too.

i'm off to bed now. Frankie i'm so excited about your new plan i dont know if i'll be able to sleep.

FrancieBrady · 23-01-2019 10:57PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

is that the assembly that collapsed in 2007 and hasn't been able to get it together since, despite the current Brexit situation looming?

i wouldn't worry about that Frankie. i have every confidence in them as i'm sure everyone that knows anything about how democracies function has too.

i'm off to bed now. Frankie i'm so excited about your new plan i dont know if i'll be able to sleep.

2007??

I was assuming you had heard of the GFA. It isn't my plan, it is the plan of the UK and Irish governments, a roadmap for the future. Only one party in northern Ireland are unhappy with the plan...guess which one?
You should read it sometime too.

maccored · 23-01-2019 11:37PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

2007??

hahahaha .... kinda proves a point though

maccored · 23-01-2019 11:38PM

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

so if partition is the problem, what is your solution?
bombing/killing innocent people until they agree with you?

who ever suggested that?

Sofiztikated · 23-01-2019 11:43PM

This thread is a prime example of the issue in Northern Ireland.

A few people shouting and point scoring, while the rest go "**** this," and leave yiz to it.

FrancieBrady · 24-01-2019 12:00AM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

This thread is a prime example of the issue in Northern Ireland.

A few people shouting and point scoring, while the rest go "**** this," and leave yiz to it.

I wouldn't take it too seriously. Where's My Jumper was here specifically to jeer and feign not caring. He/she cares a great deal. It's fun outing people like that.

steddyeddy · 24-01-2019 12:40AM

Aegir wrote: »

Ok, that’s one solution, but why would the uk take the Republic of Ireland back?

Not sure that would work. Look at the part of Ireland still in the UK. The richest part of Northern Ireland is poorer than the poorer part of Ireland. They haven't looked after it.

FrancieBrady · 24-01-2019 09:13AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Not sure that would work. Look at the part of Ireland still in the UK. The richest part of Northern Ireland is poorer than the poorer part of Ireland. They haven't looked after it.

Completely flumoxes me how unionists in northern Ireland have not worked out yet that Westminster simply does not care about them.
Had the DUP not been in the temporary pivotal role they are in, the UK would have their deal, a backdrop would be in place and we would be preparing for a border in the Irish sea.

Simple as that. And it has precedence in the Anglo Irish Agreement and the GFA. If it suits Westminster, no amount of Never Never Never will matter.

circadian · 24-01-2019 09:24AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Completely flumoxes me how unionists in northern Ireland have not worked out yet that Westminster simply does not care about them.

Edward Carson had it sussed out.

“What a fool I was. I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power.”

24-01-2019 10:52AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Not sure that would work. Look at the part of Ireland still in the UK. The richest part of Northern Ireland is poorer than the poorer part of Ireland. They haven't looked after it.

In fairness, a terrorist organisation spent thirty years trying its hardest to **** it’s economy and scare off any form of investment

FrancieBrady · 24-01-2019 11:09AM

Aegir wrote: »

In fairness, a terrorist organisation spent thirty years trying its hardest to **** it’s economy and scare off any form of investment

They didn't realise it was easier to do it by setting up 'milk the system' schemes and property scams or even fleecing charities for cheap hols. :rolleyes:

Have a look at living conditions and prospects for northern Irish residents before any conflict began. In other words take the blinkers off and see what the true story is. Northern Ireland will always be populated by second and third class citizens if it remains in the UK.

maccored · 24-01-2019 11:10AM

Aegir wrote: »

In fairness, a terrorist organisation spent thirty years trying its hardest to **** it’s economy and scare off any form of investment

ah so it was all them nasty nationalists' fault. bit obvious you seem to think it was one sided.

24-01-2019 11:26AM

maccored wrote: »

ah so it was all them nasty nationalists' fault. bit obvious you seem to think it was one sided.

so you're saying the PIRA didn't have an objective of destroying the economy of Northern Ireland?

Car bomb has exploded in Derry City Centre

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