Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

Fiftyfilthy · 17-01-2019 1:01pm

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

I would hope so. If she's spending €2,500 on a set of chairs surely she's putting them somewhere. Unless she's going hauling them around with the kids.

I can think of a large storage place that they could all easily fit in to

Ruraldweller56 · 17-01-2019 1:28pm

I see sheep wrote: »

There's already 3!! threads on the first page of this forum abusing travellers, do you go into every thread and try to link it to travellers?

What's your obsession?

Do a traveller girl you fancied shoot you down when you were a young lad and now you spend your life obsessed with them?

Oh deary me you are a sketch :pac:

Deebles McBeebles · 17-01-2019 1:44pm

Just a few highlights for anyone (like me) who missed the goings-on since yesterday evening

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So what level of racist are you?

Ray Palmer wrote: »

You just have me completely wrong because you don't know how to actually critically think. You have to put everybody in little boxes so you can try to understand the world. I can assure you I pay a lot more taxes than you do.

Ooooh!

Goldengirl wrote: »

The halting site did not meet any safety standards, because DLRCC deemed it emergency accommodation. So they circumnavigated safety regs, squashed a few caravans together in a corner of a field , and left them there , without coming back to the site to try to ensure that safety standards would be upheld. That was their job and their responsibility as paid and accountable employees .The man who was a drunk and cooking chips had no hope as did none of the rest of the family. Four working fire extinguishers are not much good if everyone who might be able to lift and use them is asleep or unconscious. This is not something to be proud of and certainly complacency is as much a factor as the burning chip pan in these deaths. Would ye be so cool about it if it had happened in a row of terraced houses? There would be marches on the capital streets in protest , and rightly so.

Absolute sh*te.

sligojoek wrote: »

Shared by Mags on FB regarding somebody trying to grow plants in space.

Fly with the stars little innocent dogs and horses

Is that real? Seriously I need to know because it felt like I'd just taken LSD after reading it.

Deebles McBeebles · 17-01-2019 1:45pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Would you move in beside a halting site?

Would you though, Ray?

I see sheep · 17-01-2019 1:47pm

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

Oh deary me you are a sketch :pac:

Don't know what that means but if it's a good thing then thanks yes I am.

Roger Hassenforder · 17-01-2019 1:54pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Would you though, Ray?

He's ducked several questions

*would he rent to a traveller? (sidestepped neatly)
* what services would he cut funding to? (as punishment for Councils not spending 'traveller money' he seems to think is is a drawer in the local town hall).

I dont think he's up yet. Or he's too busy touring his property portfolio and counting his cash.
But the "I earn more than you" stuff is pure gold. Bless his little cotton socks.

Fr_Dougal · 17-01-2019 3:21pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

The halting site did not meet any safety standards, because DLRCC deemed it emergency accommodation. So they circumnavigated safety regs, squashed a few caravans together in a corner of a field , and left them there , without coming back to the site to try to ensure that safety standards would be upheld. That was their job and their responsibility as paid and accountable employees .The man who was a drunk and cooking chips had no hope as did none of the rest of the family. Four working fire extinguishers are not much good if everyone who might be able to lift and use them is asleep or unconscious. This is not something to be proud of and certainly complacency is as much a factor as the burning chip pan in these deaths. Would ye be so cool about it if it had happened in a row of terraced houses? There would be marches on the capital streets in protest , and rightly so.

TL;DR : it’s de guberments fault

KrustyUCC · 17-01-2019 3:48pm

She's some buyer/seller on FB

She's selling a '€600' suit she bought her son for her daughters communion
Offer currently €250 so prob €350 loss

like new worn just for chaple

On 2nd Feb 2018 before her garda station stunt she was 'looking for a clean 7 seater'

Was able to say on a €2000 car 'wer r u i will buy 2 day'

Yet "HOMELESSNESS campaigner Margaret Cash was placed on a 12-month probation bond today.

The 28-year-old, Westpark Gate, Tallaght, had pleaded guilty to stealing clothing worth €321 from Penneys, Nutgrove Shopping Centre, Rathfarnham, on February 17, 2018.

“I don’t know what the shoplifting has to do with me being homeless, it is my private life.

"I never said I was a saint or anything, far from it.

“None of this has to do with the homeless crisis.

“I feel like I’m being attacked for highlighting the homeless crisis. It’s all about me shoplifting, they are looking for the bad.

“The clothes were for the kids. I feel like I am being targeted. It is letting the Government off the hook.”

https://www.thesun.ie/news/3274135/margaret-cash-saint-avoiding-jail-penneys/

Plenty of money for communion stuff, a car and couches

Apparently 'love's me 7 beautiful kids more than life' yet she didn't think "What would happen to your children if you were to go to jail?"

Then again “I never said I was poor. I said I was homeless. I get benefits the same as everyone else. I just haven’t got enough to get a home."

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/i-have-been-constantly-begging-for-help-margaret-cash-on-being-homeless-1.3598174

kowloon · 17-01-2019 6:20pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Are you the husband of Cash????

You know damn well that they're not cash or related to cash by the fact that their post is easy to read without making your eyes bleed, so cut it out.

There's not much of a discussion on this thread when it's mainly just people ranting about travellers and tarring an entire group of people in a way that would make a skinhead gang proud.

It's okay to point out that there are problems without all the histrionics on display here. It's a thread in a discussion forum that you're writing, not an attention grabbing ****piece for the daily ****wit.

hawkelady · 17-01-2019 6:27pm

kowloon wrote: »

You know damn well that they're not cash or related to cash by the fact that their post is easy to read without making your eyes bleed, so cut it out.

There's not much of a discussion on this thread when it's mainly just people ranting about travellers and tarring an entire group of people in a way that would make a skinhead gang proud.

It's okay to point out that there are problems without all the histrionics on display here. It's a thread in a discussion forum that you're writing, not an attention grabbing ****piece for the daily ****wit.

It’s you that’s tarring an entire group of people to be nasty ! Shame on you , you really are a nasty piece of work !
Not all skinheads that wander around in gangs are nasty

Thoie · 17-01-2019 6:36pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

The halting site did not meet any safety standards, because DLRCC deemed it emergency accommodation. So they circumnavigated safety regs, squashed a few caravans together in a corner of a field , and left them there , without coming back to the site to try to ensure that safety standards would be upheld. That was their job and their responsibility as paid and accountable employees .The man who was a drunk and cooking chips had no hope as did none of the rest of the family. Four working fire extinguishers are not much good if everyone who might be able to lift and use them is asleep or unconscious. This is not something to be proud of and certainly complacency is as much a factor as the burning chip pan in these deaths. Would ye be so cool about it if it had happened in a row of terraced houses? There would be marches on the capital streets in protest , and rightly so.

Goldengirl wrote: »

Fire extinguishers were useless as they were already un conscious except for the young lad who tried but couldn't use them. Fire hydrant had no water pressure. The person who changed the smoke alarm to a heat sensor was wrong, and the council should have checked the site after it became obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation but a settlement with families.I can't accept the blasé attitude that says this is " all the travellers fault" , and that's being charitable. Provision of emergency accomodation for anyone in the country,needs to meet safety standards. I do not think this is negotiable. It is not negotiable if you or I are building a house , so why is it ok for a halting site?

It's not OK for a halting site, and the council didn't say it was - invariably the council sets things up right, and the residents make changes afterwards. This is the equivalent of the council building a pair of semi-d's, meeting all current regulations. Then you and I move in next door to each other, and decide that we'll knock down the fire barrier between the attics, and build on our own wooden lean-to's across the back of both houses. We'd like electricity in these, so we'll tap into the street light outside, and run cables taped together with sellotape through a few puddles. Then, if something happens, we'll claim that the houses provided by the council didn't meet proper standards.

However, if someone from the council drops in every week to examine the place, and to insist that we get the attic barriers repaired and knock down the dangerous wooden extensions, we'll claim we're being victimised, have no privacy and that the council should pay to bring things back to regulation standards.

Ruraldweller56 · 17-01-2019 6:48pm

kowloon wrote: »

You know damn well that they're not cash or related to cash by the fact that their post is easy to read without making your eyes bleed, so cut it out.

There's not much of a discussion on this thread when it's mainly just people ranting about travellers and tarring an entire group of people in a way that would make a skinhead gang proud.

It's okay to point out that there are problems without all the histrionics on display here. It's a thread in a discussion forum that you're writing, not an attention grabbing ****piece for the daily ****wit.

Loud noises :mad: :mad: :mad:

Alrigghtythen · 17-01-2019 6:54pm

sligojoek wrote: »

Shared by Mags on FB regarding somebody trying to grow plants in space.

Fly with the stars little innocent dogs and horses

Fly with the stars old people they've battered

blanch152 · 17-01-2019 7:14pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

Fire extinguishers were useless as they were already un conscious except for the young lad who tried but couldn't use them.

This is a serious tragedy, yet you are trying to make a joke out of it by posting stuff like that. Fire extinguishers are useless anywhere everyone is unconscious. Whose fault is that? It is certainly not the council's that they were all unconscious. It is the fault of the people who drank until they were unconscious.

Goldengirl wrote: »

Fire hydrant had no water pressure. The person who changed the smoke alarm to a heat sensor was wrong, and the council should have checked the site after it became obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation but a settlement with families.

The person who changed the smoke alarm was wrong????? Surely, you mean that the person who changed the smoke alarm carries a huge amount of the blame.

How would the council know that it was obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation? Are the council watching the site 24/7?

Goldengirl wrote: »

I can't accept the blasé attitude that says this is " all the travellers fault" , and that's being charitable. Provision of emergency accomodation for anyone in the country,needs to meet safety standards. I do not think this is negotiable. It is not negotiable if you or I are building a house , so why is it ok for a halting site?

In this case, it is all the fault of the people living in the caravan. They changed the smoke alarm. They lit a chip pan and left it on. They drank until they became unconscious.

The council couldn't have changed any of that. That could have happened whether they lived in a caravan, a house or a palace.

James Brown · 17-01-2019 7:20pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

She's some buyer/seller on FB

She's selling a '€600' suit she bought her son for her daughters communion
Offer currently €250 so prob €350 loss

like new worn just for chaple

On 2nd Feb 2018 before her garda station stunt she was 'looking for a clean 7 seater'

Was able to say on a €2000 car 'wer r u i will buy 2 day'

Yet "HOMELESSNESS campaigner Margaret Cash was placed on a 12-month probation bond today.

The 28-year-old, Westpark Gate, Tallaght, had pleaded guilty to stealing clothing worth €321 from Penneys, Nutgrove Shopping Centre, Rathfarnham, on February 17, 2018.

“I don’t know what the shoplifting has to do with me being homeless, it is my private life.

"I never said I was a saint or anything, far from it.

“None of this has to do with the homeless crisis.

“I feel like I’m being attacked for highlighting the homeless crisis. It’s all about me shoplifting, they are looking for the bad.

“The clothes were for the kids. I feel like I am being targeted. It is letting the Government off the hook.”

https://www.thesun.ie/news/3274135/margaret-cash-saint-avoiding-jail-penneys/

Plenty of money for communion stuff, a car and couches

Apparently 'love's me 7 beautiful kids more than life' yet she didn't think "What would happen to your children if you were to go to jail?"

Then again “I never said I was poor. I said I was homeless. I get benefits the same as everyone else. I just haven’t got enough to get a home."

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/i-have-been-constantly-begging-for-help-margaret-cash-on-being-homeless-1.3598174

Well somebody has a crush

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:01pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

All I get from your nonsense is its everyone's fault except the idiot that caused the fire.

No , that is not what I said , as you know . In a previous answer to you I accepted that the chip pan started the fire. But it is a council halting site, provided by the council so is the responsibility of the council and the fire safety officers to ensure that fire safety regulations are enacted on any site within its remit.
And in reply to another post , the council are responsible along with individuals who remove smoke alarms , and who do not take care while cooking. Of course there is individual responsibility for the actions/ inactions of people, but this applies to the council also. I have no interest personally in progressing this debate , except to tell those who were blaming the individual travellers alone for the tragedy.

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:05pm

blanch152 wrote: »

This is a serious tragedy, yet you are trying to make a joke out of it by posting stuff like that. Fire extinguishers are useless anywhere everyone is unconscious. Whose fault is that? It is certainly not the council's that they were all unconscious. It is the fault of the people who drank until they were unconscious.

The person who changed the smoke alarm was wrong????? Surely, you mean that the person who changed the smoke alarm carries a huge amount of the blame.

How would the council know that it was obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation? Are the council watching the site 24/7?

In this case, it is all the fault of the people living in the caravan. They changed the smoke alarm. They lit a chip pan and left it on. They drank until they became unconscious.

The council couldn't have changed any of that. That could have happened whether they lived in a caravan, a house or a palace.

I have never said this was funny, read my posts . I am angry at traveller bashing going on in this thread while this inquest is going on. The council have a list of their sites emergency or otherwise on it and this site was being monitored, but not for fire safety , it appears.

Galwayguy35 · 17-01-2019 8:12pm

If I was drinking, forgot about a chip pan and passed out from being drunk it would be my fault if i died in a fire.

Seems like the PC crowd are twisting themselves up in knots to blame everyone except the people responsible.

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:13pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Just a few highlights for anyone (like me) who missed the goings-on since yesterday evening

Ooooh!

Absolute sh*te.

Is that real? Seriously I need to know because it felt like I'd just taken LSD after reading it.

This is the gold standard for posters on this thread! Way to go there...

Plumbthedepths · 17-01-2019 8:16pm

Goldengirl wrote:

No , that is not what I said , as you know . In a previous answer to you I accepted that the chip pan started the fire. But it is a council halting site, provided by the council so is the responsibility of the council and the fire safety officers to ensure that fire safety regulations are enacted on any site within its remit. And in reply to another post , the council are responsible along with individuals who remove smoke alarms , and who do not take care while cooking. Of course there is individual responsibility for the actions/ inactions of people, but this applies to the council also. I have no interest personally in progressing this debate , except to tell those who were blaming the individual travellers alone for the tragedy.

Fair play you are consistent in your attempt to lay blame anywhere except where it belongs. 'The lad that put on the chip pan, insisted on the smoke alarm being changed, drinking to unconsciousness is responsible '. NOONE ELSE.

tuxy · 17-01-2019 8:17pm

Is there a failing on behalf of the councils to understand traveller culture?

Sites being cursed and an intricate web of family feuds have left many sites and houses empty.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 17-01-2019 8:17pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

No , that is not what I said , as you know . In a previous answer to you I accepted that the chip pan started the fire. But it is a council halting site, provided by the council so is the responsibility of the council and the fire safety officers to ensure that fire safety regulations are enacted on any site within its remit.
And in reply to another post , the council are responsible along with individuals who remove smoke alarms , and who do not take care while cooking. Of course there is individual responsibility for the actions/ inactions of people, but this applies to the council also. I have no interest personally in progressing this debate , except to tell those who were blaming the individual travellers alone for the tragedy.

Is it though? Can we reasonably expect the council to hold the hands of grown adults? I am not blaming the victims, because it was an accident. But it’s certainly nobody else’s fault.

freshpopcorn · 17-01-2019 8:18pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

If I was drinking, forgot about a chip pan and passed out from being drunk it would be my fault if i died in a fire.

Seems like the PC crowd are twisting themselves up in knots to blame everyone except the people responsible.

I think taking personal responsibility went out of fashion a few years ago now!

tuxy · 17-01-2019 8:18pm

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

Is it though? Can we reasonably expect the council to hold the hands of grown adults? I am not blaming the victims, because it was an accident. But it’s certainly nobody else’s fault.

If the adults have below an IQ below 70 they are technically disabled and the council have a duty of care to them.

tretorn · 17-01-2019 8:21pm

The chip pan was placed on a hot plate and the hot plate was set at its highest setting.

I think most of the victims died in bed with one male found dead in the kitchen area.

The responsibility for the danger those children were put in was the person who turned on the hot plate and put the chip pan full of oil on top of it.

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:21pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Why should the council have checked the site?

Personal responsibility is the key. The council didn't get rid of the smoke alarm. The council didn't take their eye of a chip pan with burning oil.

No fault of the council. I have found some of the testimony and blaming of the council to be deeply disturbing. It seems some people want to profit wrongly out of the death of their relatives.

Straight away you say people want to profit wrongly out of the death of their relatives...that's the only thing you can think to say about a horrible tragedy.
It is an unbelievable horrific tragedy and hopefully lessons will be learned by more than the travelling community .

Galwayguy35 · 17-01-2019 8:22pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think taking personal responsibility went out of fashion a few years ago now!

It appears to be the case all right.

RTE news are going out of their way to mention about the council but not a peep about the guy who is responsible for what happened.

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:25pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think taking personal responsibility went out of fashion a few years ago now!

Can you as a moderator take personal responsibility for the cruel and interminable traveller bashing on this site!

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:27pm

tretorn wrote: »

The chip pan was placed on a hot plate and the hot plate was set at its highest setting.

I think most of the victims died in bed with one male found dead in the kitchen area.

The responsibility for the danger those children were put in was the person who turned on the hot plate and put the chip pan full of oil on top of it.

Yes, undeniably . So the council have no responsibility ?

tuxy · 17-01-2019 8:27pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

Can you as a moderator take personal responsibility for the cruel and interminable traveller bashing on this site!

The bashing is worse on Youtube!

freshpopcorn · 17-01-2019 8:30pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

Can you as a moderator take personal responsibility for the cruel and interminable traveller bashing on this site!

Yes they can,
Threads have being locked, deleted, users banned, giving warnings, posts edited/deleted.
However we have to leave discussion to go on!

pah · 17-01-2019 8:31pm

tuxy wrote: »

If the adults have below an IQ below 70 they are technically disabled and the council have a duty of care to them.

WTF?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 17-01-2019 8:32pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes, undeniably . So the council have no responsibility ?

Do you expect a council representative to be placed in each trailer and home across Ireland armed with a fire blanket and a hose?

Galwayguy35 · 17-01-2019 8:32pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

Can you as a moderator take personal responsibility for the cruel and interminable traveller bashing on this site!

Some of them are fairly handy at the bashing themselves, bashing old people that is.

17-01-2019 8:33pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes, undeniably . So the council have no responsibility ?

If I have friends around at night. Drink to excess, take drugs, then in the wee small hours, put a pan of oil on the highest setting on the hob intending to make chips, leading to a fatal fire, would you still blame the council? Bear in mind that I own my house.

Roger Hassenforder · 17-01-2019 8:33pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Fair play you are consistent in your attempt to lay blame anywhere except where it belongs. 'The lad that put on the chip pan, insisted on the smoke alarm being changed, drinking to unconsciousness is responsible '. NOONE ELSE.

Is it me, or do other parents just not get stoned or pıssed when having to mind kids as well?

tretorn · 17-01-2019 8:37pm

Listening to the inquest it gets clearer and clearer why people object so strongly to travellers halting sites near them.

The information regarding the tampering with the electricity supply is chilling. There is no way the Council can police such activities, they simply dont have the staff.

tuxy · 17-01-2019 8:39pm

tretorn wrote: »

Listening to the inquest it gets clearer and clearer why people object so strongly to travellers halting sites near them.

The information regarding the tampering with the electricity supply is chilling. There is no way the Council can police such activities, they simply dont have the staff.

Can you imagine the reaction to them attempting a safety inspection. They would be chased off the site.

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:39pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Fair play you are consistent in your attempt to lay blame anywhere except where it belongs. 'The lad that put on the chip pan, insisted on the smoke alarm being changed, drinking to unconsciousness is responsible '. NOONE ELSE.

And fair play you are consistent in NOT READING the post! And then taking one line out to quote. I HAVE on more than occasion said that those are to blame AS WELL as lack of adequate fire safety requirements .

Plumbthedepths · 17-01-2019 8:49pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote:

Is it me, or do other parents just not get stoned or pÄ±ssed when having to mind kids as well?

Cultural thing I guess, according to some the council should provide babysitting ( apparently adult sitting) services as a key service along with detailed instructions how to use a fire extinguisher and the dangers of chip pans.

DavidLyons_ · 17-01-2019 8:51pm

tuxy wrote: »

Goldengirl wrote: »

Can you as a moderator take personal responsibility for the cruel and interminable traveller bashing on this site!

The bashing is worse on Youtube!

Deary fcuking me. Absolute low life scum.

Why is it that there always has to be disgusting nakedness in these animal’s videos?

Pure dregs of society.

Ray Palmer · 17-01-2019 8:54pm

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

He's ducked several questions

*would he rent to a traveller? (sidestepped neatly)
* what services would he cut funding to? (as punishment for Councils not spending 'traveller money' he seems to think is is a drawer in the local town hall).

I dont think he's up yet. Or he's too busy touring his property portfolio and counting his cash.
But the "I earn more than you" stuff is pure gold. Bless his little cotton socks.

No I have nothing suitable and that is the reason. I rented to drug addicts getting clean in the past
All council funding
Was at work
People were going on about how they didn't like "their" taxes being paid and I pointed out I pay more than they do. If you think me mentioning tax is any different from people pointing out they got a job and bought their own house then you just are blind to hypocrites.

Lots of people avoided questions like you. What level of racist are you so?

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 8:58pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If I have friends around at night. Drink to excess, take drugs, then in the wee small hours, put a pan of oil on the highest setting on the hob intending to make chips, leading to a fatal fire, would you still blame the council? Bear in mind that I own my house.

Yes, If you live in a council house that doesn't for some reason have regard for fire safety regulations, which all habitable accommodation, under building regulations have to have installed and built in, and not just in recent years either, but especially enacted by law since 2014 ?
Yes , the council are responsible for enforcement . You as the owner of your own home have responsibility as it is your own home.
These people were living in portacabins placed cheek by jowl on an emergency council site ( and it was a long time an emergency site ).
Were the people in Grenfell responsible for the cxxp apartments built for them?
Do you think the individuals whose kitchen fire started the Grenfell fire are the only ones responsible for the deaths of all those people? Would you blame them too?

Many people are responsible, some of whom are paid to be accountable.

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 9:04pm

tuxy wrote: »

Can you imagine the reaction to them attempting a safety inspection. They would be chased off the site.

Again they have a legal responsibility to do so, but yes they probably don't have the staff.

freshpopcorn · 17-01-2019 9:05pm

Goldengirl wrote: »

If you live in a council house that doesn't for some reason have regard for fire safety regulations, which all habitable accommodation, under building regulations have to have installed and built in, and not just in recent years either, but especially enacted by law since 2014 ? Yes , the council are responsible for enforcement .
You as the owner of your own home have responsibility as it us your own home. These people were living in portacabins supplied to them and placed cheek by jowl.
Were the people in Grenfell responsible for the cxxp apartments built for them?
Do you think the individuals whose kitchen fire started the Grenfell fire are the only ones responsible for the deaths of all those people? Would you blame them too?

Many people are responsible, some of whom are paid to be accountable.

I know if I lived in a unsuitable council house/residence/rented house. I wouldn't continue to add to my family. I wouldn't invite visitors to my house to spend the night and I'd be very cautious about drinking alcohol around children. I'd also never light a chip pan especially if I had consumed alcohol.

Plumbthedepths · 17-01-2019 9:07pm

freshpopcorn wrote:

I know if I lived in a unsuitable council house/residence/rented house. I wouldn't continue to add to my family. I wouldn't invite visitors to my house to spend the night and I'd be very cautious about drinking alcohol around children. I'd also never light a chip pan especially if I had consumed alcohol.

You probably wouldn't smoke weed either......

kowloon · 17-01-2019 9:08pm

Ruraldweller56 wrote: »

Loud noises :mad: :mad: :mad:

You make a good point.

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 9:08pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Cultural thing I guess, according to some the council should provide babysitting ( apparently adult sitting) services as a key service along with detailed instructions how to use a fire extinguisher and the dangers of chip pans.

Actually, yes , there should be detailed instructions on all fire safety equipment , especially fire safety on particularly vulnerable areas . That's the fxxxin point!
Other councils refuse to allow families with children in emergency sites, whether they get abuse for it or not .

Goldengirl · 17-01-2019 9:10pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I know if I lived in a unsuitable council house/residence/rented house. I wouldn't continue to add to my family. I wouldn't invite visitors to my house to spend the night and I'd be very cautious about drinking alcohol around children. I'd also never light a chip pan especially if I had consumed alcohol.

Well good for you , I am glad to hear it !

Plumbthedepths · 17-01-2019 9:11pm

Goldengirl wrote:

Actually, yes , there should be detailed instructions on all fire safety equipment , especially fire safety on particularly vulnerable areas . That's the fxxxin point! Other councils refuse to allow families with children in emergency sites, whether they get abuse for it or not .

Actually there is, have a look at a fire extinguisher, fire blanket. Not just text but visual aids how to use device.
Still trying to blame the council I see. Any thoughts on the actions of the individual that caused the fire?

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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