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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ruraldweller56


    I'd say the council are well aware though

    I would hope so. If she's spending €2,500 on a set of chairs surely she's putting them somewhere. Unless she's going hauling them around with the kids.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    those chairs look like the suit she bought for the kids communion.

    :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I would hope so. If she's spending €2,500 on a set of chairs surely she's putting them somewhere. Unless she's going hauling them around with the kids.

    Theyre a 6 piece set right? She’s going to bring her own seats to Tallaght Garda station next time. “We’re not poor, just homeless”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ruraldweller56


    Theyre a 6 piece set right? She’s going to bring her own seats to Tallaght Garda station next time. “We’re not poor, just homeless”

    Ya but there's only 6.

    I feel another Miriam interview coming on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    She has six of those chairs already, this is for when the brood is extended.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Fiftyfilthy


    I would hope so. If she's spending €2,500 on a set of chairs surely she's putting them somewhere. Unless she's going hauling them around with the kids.



    I can think of a large storage place that they could all easily fit in to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ruraldweller56


    There's already 3!! threads on the first page of this forum abusing travellers, do you go into every thread and try to link it to travellers?

    What's your obsession?

    Do a traveller girl you fancied shoot you down when you were a young lad and now you spend your life obsessed with them?

    Oh deary me you are a sketch :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Just a few highlights for anyone (like me) who missed the goings-on since yesterday evening
    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    So what level of racist are you?
    :D
    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    You just have me completely wrong because you don't know how to actually critically think. You have to put everybody in little boxes so you can try to understand the world. I can assure you I pay a lot more taxes than you do.

    Ooooh!
    Goldengirl wrote: »
    The halting site did not meet any safety standards, because DLRCC deemed it emergency accommodation. So they circumnavigated safety regs, squashed a few caravans together in a corner of a field , and left them there , without coming back to the site to try to ensure that safety standards would be upheld. That was their job and their responsibility as paid and accountable employees .The man who was a drunk and cooking chips had no hope as did none of the rest of the family. Four working fire extinguishers are not much good if everyone who might be able to lift and use them is asleep or unconscious. This is not something to be proud of and certainly complacency is as much a factor as the burning chip pan in these deaths. Would ye be so cool about it if it had happened in a row of terraced houses? There would be marches on the capital streets in protest , and rightly so.

    Absolute sh*te.
    sligojoek wrote: »
    Shared by Mags on FB regarding somebody trying to grow plants in space.




    Fly with the stars little innocent dogs and horses

    Is that real? Seriously I need to know because it felt like I'd just taken LSD after reading it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Would you move in beside a halting site?

    Would you though, Ray?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Oh deary me you are a sketch :pac:

    Don't know what that means but if it's a good thing then thanks yes I am.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Would you though, Ray?

    He's ducked several questions

    *would he rent to a traveller? (sidestepped neatly)
    * what services would he cut funding to? (as punishment for Councils not spending 'traveller money' he seems to think is is a drawer in the local town hall).

    I dont think he's up yet. Or he's too busy touring his property portfolio and counting his cash.
    But the "I earn more than you" stuff is pure gold. Bless his little cotton socks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    The halting site did not meet any safety standards, because DLRCC deemed it emergency accommodation. So they circumnavigated safety regs, squashed a few caravans together in a corner of a field , and left them there , without coming back to the site to try to ensure that safety standards would be upheld. That was their job and their responsibility as paid and accountable employees .The man who was a drunk and cooking chips had no hope as did none of the rest of the family. Four working fire extinguishers are not much good if everyone who might be able to lift and use them is asleep or unconscious. This is not something to be proud of and certainly complacency is as much a factor as the burning chip pan in these deaths. Would ye be so cool about it if it had happened in a row of terraced houses? There would be marches on the capital streets in protest , and rightly so.

    TL;DR : it’s de guberments fault


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    234803a7fe7b7b007f8919a9e87de326.jpg

    She's some buyer/seller on FB

    She's selling a '€600' suit she bought her son for her daughters communion
    Offer currently €250 so prob €350 loss

    like new worn just for chaple

    On 2nd Feb 2018 before her garda station stunt she was 'looking for a clean 7 seater'

    Was able to say on a €2000 car 'wer r u i will buy 2 day'

    Yet "HOMELESSNESS campaigner Margaret Cash was placed on a 12-month probation bond today.

    The 28-year-old, Westpark Gate, Tallaght, had pleaded guilty to stealing clothing worth €321 from Penneys, Nutgrove Shopping Centre, Rathfarnham, on February 17, 2018.

    “I don’t know what the shoplifting has to do with me being homeless, it is my private life.

    "I never said I was a saint or anything, far from it.

    “None of this has to do with the homeless crisis.

    “I feel like I’m being attacked for highlighting the homeless crisis. It’s all about me shoplifting, they are looking for the bad.

    The clothes were for the kids. I feel like I am being targeted. It is letting the Government off the hook.”

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/3274135/margaret-cash-saint-avoiding-jail-penneys/

    Plenty of money for communion stuff, a car and couches

    Apparently 'love's me 7 beautiful kids more than life' yet she didn't think "What would happen to your children if you were to go to jail?"

    Then again “I never said I was poor. I said I was homeless. I get benefits the same as everyone else. I just haven’t got enough to get a home."

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/i-have-been-constantly-begging-for-help-margaret-cash-on-being-homeless-1.3598174


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,038 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Are you the husband of Cash????

    You know damn well that they're not cash or related to cash by the fact that their post is easy to read without making your eyes bleed, so cut it out.

    There's not much of a discussion on this thread when it's mainly just people ranting about travellers and tarring an entire group of people in a way that would make a skinhead gang proud.

    It's okay to point out that there are problems without all the histrionics on display here. It's a thread in a discussion forum that you're writing, not an attention grabbing ****piece for the daily ****wit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    kowloon wrote: »
    You know damn well that they're not cash or related to cash by the fact that their post is easy to read without making your eyes bleed, so cut it out.

    There's not much of a discussion on this thread when it's mainly just people ranting about travellers and tarring an entire group of people in a way that would make a skinhead gang proud.

    It's okay to point out that there are problems without all the histrionics on display here. It's a thread in a discussion forum that you're writing, not an attention grabbing ****piece for the daily ****wit.


    It’s you that’s tarring an entire group of people to be nasty ! Shame on you , you really are a nasty piece of work !
    Not all skinheads that wander around in gangs are nasty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Thoie


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    The halting site did not meet any safety standards, because DLRCC deemed it emergency accommodation. So they circumnavigated safety regs, squashed a few caravans together in a corner of a field , and left them there , without coming back to the site to try to ensure that safety standards would be upheld. That was their job and their responsibility as paid and accountable employees .The man who was a drunk and cooking chips had no hope as did none of the rest of the family. Four working fire extinguishers are not much good if everyone who might be able to lift and use them is asleep or unconscious. This is not something to be proud of and certainly complacency is as much a factor as the burning chip pan in these deaths. Would ye be so cool about it if it had happened in a row of terraced houses? There would be marches on the capital streets in protest , and rightly so.
    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Fire extinguishers were useless as they were already un conscious except for the young lad who tried but couldn't use them. Fire hydrant had no water pressure. The person who changed the smoke alarm to a heat sensor was wrong, and the council should have checked the site after it became obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation but a settlement with families.I can't accept the blasé attitude that says this is " all the travellers fault" , and that's being charitable. Provision of emergency accomodation for anyone in the country,needs to meet safety standards. I do not think this is negotiable. It is not negotiable if you or I are building a house , so why is it ok for a halting site?

    It's not OK for a halting site, and the council didn't say it was - invariably the council sets things up right, and the residents make changes afterwards. This is the equivalent of the council building a pair of semi-d's, meeting all current regulations. Then you and I move in next door to each other, and decide that we'll knock down the fire barrier between the attics, and build on our own wooden lean-to's across the back of both houses. We'd like electricity in these, so we'll tap into the street light outside, and run cables taped together with sellotape through a few puddles. Then, if something happens, we'll claim that the houses provided by the council didn't meet proper standards.

    However, if someone from the council drops in every week to examine the place, and to insist that we get the attic barriers repaired and knock down the dangerous wooden extensions, we'll claim we're being victimised, have no privacy and that the council should pay to bring things back to regulation standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ruraldweller56


    kowloon wrote: »
    You know damn well that they're not cash or related to cash by the fact that their post is easy to read without making your eyes bleed, so cut it out.

    There's not much of a discussion on this thread when it's mainly just people ranting about travellers and tarring an entire group of people in a way that would make a skinhead gang proud.

    It's okay to point out that there are problems without all the histrionics on display here. It's a thread in a discussion forum that you're writing, not an attention grabbing ****piece for the daily ****wit.

    Loud noises :mad: :mad: :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    sligojoek wrote: »
    Shared by Mags on FB regarding somebody trying to grow plants in space.




    Fly with the stars little innocent dogs and horses
    Fly with the stars old people they've battered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Fire extinguishers were useless as they were already un conscious except for the young lad who tried but couldn't use them.

    This is a serious tragedy, yet you are trying to make a joke out of it by posting stuff like that. Fire extinguishers are useless anywhere everyone is unconscious. Whose fault is that? It is certainly not the council's that they were all unconscious. It is the fault of the people who drank until they were unconscious.

    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Fire hydrant had no water pressure. The person who changed the smoke alarm to a heat sensor was wrong, and the council should have checked the site after it became obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation but a settlement with families.

    The person who changed the smoke alarm was wrong????? Surely, you mean that the person who changed the smoke alarm carries a huge amount of the blame.

    How would the council know that it was obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation? Are the council watching the site 24/7?

    Goldengirl wrote: »
    I can't accept the blasé attitude that says this is " all the travellers fault" , and that's being charitable. Provision of emergency accomodation for anyone in the country,needs to meet safety standards. I do not think this is negotiable. It is not negotiable if you or I are building a house , so why is it ok for a halting site?

    In this case, it is all the fault of the people living in the caravan. They changed the smoke alarm. They lit a chip pan and left it on. They drank until they became unconscious.

    The council couldn't have changed any of that. That could have happened whether they lived in a caravan, a house or a palace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    234803a7fe7b7b007f8919a9e87de326.jpg

    She's some buyer/seller on FB

    She's selling a '€600' suit she bought her son for her daughters communion
    Offer currently €250 so prob €350 loss

    like new worn just for chaple

    On 2nd Feb 2018 before her garda station stunt she was 'looking for a clean 7 seater'

    Was able to say on a €2000 car 'wer r u i will buy 2 day'

    Yet "HOMELESSNESS campaigner Margaret Cash was placed on a 12-month probation bond today.

    The 28-year-old, Westpark Gate, Tallaght, had pleaded guilty to stealing clothing worth €321 from Penneys, Nutgrove Shopping Centre, Rathfarnham, on February 17, 2018.

    “I don’t know what the shoplifting has to do with me being homeless, it is my private life.

    "I never said I was a saint or anything, far from it.

    “None of this has to do with the homeless crisis.

    “I feel like I’m being attacked for highlighting the homeless crisis. It’s all about me shoplifting, they are looking for the bad.

    The clothes were for the kids. I feel like I am being targeted. It is letting the Government off the hook.”

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/3274135/margaret-cash-saint-avoiding-jail-penneys/

    Plenty of money for communion stuff, a car and couches

    Apparently 'love's me 7 beautiful kids more than life' yet she didn't think "What would happen to your children if you were to go to jail?"

    Then again “I never said I was poor. I said I was homeless. I get benefits the same as everyone else. I just haven’t got enough to get a home."

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/i-have-been-constantly-begging-for-help-margaret-cash-on-being-homeless-1.3598174

    Well somebody has a crush :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    All I get from your nonsense is its everyone's fault except the idiot that caused the fire.

    No , that is not what I said , as you know . In a previous answer to you I accepted that the chip pan started the fire. But it is a council halting site, provided by the council so is the responsibility of the council and the fire safety officers to ensure that fire safety regulations are enacted on any site within its remit.
    And in reply to another post , the council are responsible along with individuals who remove smoke alarms , and who do not take care while cooking. Of course there is individual responsibility for the actions/ inactions of people, but this applies to the council also. I have no interest personally in progressing this debate , except to tell those who were blaming the individual travellers alone for the tragedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    blanch152 wrote: »
    This is a serious tragedy, yet you are trying to make a joke out of it by posting stuff like that. Fire extinguishers are useless anywhere everyone is unconscious. Whose fault is that? It is certainly not the council's that they were all unconscious. It is the fault of the people who drank until they were unconscious.




    The person who changed the smoke alarm was wrong????? Surely, you mean that the person who changed the smoke alarm carries a huge amount of the blame.

    How would the council know that it was obvious it was no longer emergency accommodation? Are the council watching the site 24/7?




    In this case, it is all the fault of the people living in the caravan. They changed the smoke alarm. They lit a chip pan and left it on. They drank until they became unconscious.

    The council couldn't have changed any of that. That could have happened whether they lived in a caravan, a house or a palace.

    I have never said this was funny, read my posts . I am angry at traveller bashing going on in this thread while this inquest is going on. The council have a list of their sites emergency or otherwise on it and this site was being monitored, but not for fire safety , it appears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,956 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    If I was drinking, forgot about a chip pan and passed out from being drunk it would be my fault if i died in a fire.

    Seems like the PC crowd are twisting themselves up in knots to blame everyone except the people responsible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Just a few highlights for anyone (like me) who missed the goings-on since yesterday evening


    :D



    Ooooh!



    Absolute sh*te.



    Is that real? Seriously I need to know because it felt like I'd just taken LSD after reading it.

    This is the gold standard for posters on this thread! Way to go there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Goldengirl wrote:
    No , that is not what I said , as you know . In a previous answer to you I accepted that the chip pan started the fire. But it is a council halting site, provided by the council so is the responsibility of the council and the fire safety officers to ensure that fire safety regulations are enacted on any site within its remit. And in reply to another post , the council are responsible along with individuals who remove smoke alarms , and who do not take care while cooking. Of course there is individual responsibility for the actions/ inactions of people, but this applies to the council also. I have no interest personally in progressing this debate , except to tell those who were blaming the individual travellers alone for the tragedy.

    Fair play you are consistent in your attempt to lay blame anywhere except where it belongs. 'The lad that put on the chip pan, insisted on the smoke alarm being changed, drinking to unconsciousness is responsible '. NOONE ELSE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Is there a failing on behalf of the councils to understand traveller culture?

    Sites being cursed and an intricate web of family feuds have left many sites and houses empty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    No , that is not what I said , as you know . In a previous answer to you I accepted that the chip pan started the fire. But it is a council halting site, provided by the council so is the responsibility of the council and the fire safety officers to ensure that fire safety regulations are enacted on any site within its remit.
    And in reply to another post , the council are responsible along with individuals who remove smoke alarms , and who do not take care while cooking. Of course there is individual responsibility for the actions/ inactions of people, but this applies to the council also. I have no interest personally in progressing this debate , except to tell those who were blaming the individual travellers alone for the tragedy.

    Is it though? Can we reasonably expect the council to hold the hands of grown adults? I am not blaming the victims, because it was an accident. But it’s certainly nobody else’s fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,903 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    If I was drinking, forgot about a chip pan and passed out from being drunk it would be my fault if i died in a fire.

    Seems like the PC crowd are twisting themselves up in knots to blame everyone except the people responsible.

    I think taking personal responsibility went out of fashion a few years ago now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Is it though? Can we reasonably expect the council to hold the hands of grown adults? I am not blaming the victims, because it was an accident. But it’s certainly nobody else’s fault.

    If the adults have below an IQ below 70 they are technically disabled and the council have a duty of care to them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭tretorn


    The chip pan was placed on a hot plate and the hot plate was set at its highest setting.

    I think most of the victims died in bed with one male found dead in the kitchen area.

    The responsibility for the danger those children were put in was the person who turned on the hot plate and put the chip pan full of oil on top of it.


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