Destroying A Whole Generation Of Music

The Oort Cloud · 15-01-2019 9:13pm #1

I was just listening to Radio Nova and along comes a song from Dire Straits, it was 'Money For Nothing', But at the part when he sing's...

That little ****** got his own jet airplane
That little ****** he's a millionaire, It was cut from the song. It's only the start, soon a whole original generation of music will be completely destroyed if this keeps up.Any song that has a slight forwarded word of unease will be cut and mangled to suit the millennial safe-space boxed people.

What do you think, is removing lyrics from original music a good thing or a bad thing ?.

LessOutragePlz · 15-01-2019 9:16pm

Just listen to the uncensored version.

Problem solved!

5uspect · 15-01-2019 9:17pm

Oh, we’re blaming the millennials for the BAI rules now are we? Stupid millennials with their stranglehold on the government.

Church on Tuesday · 15-01-2019 9:17pm

Absolutely a bad thing.

Music is a reflection of life like all art and life contains vulgarities.

Music is art, you wouldn't destroy a piece of Rembrandt or Van Gogh would you?

Collie D · 15-01-2019 9:19pm

That song must make up about 10% of Nova’s playlist

Alun · 15-01-2019 9:19pm

Interesting, I've listened to that song hundreds if not thousands of times and never actually heard the word that's bleeped out at all. Had to Google the lyrics! I've no idea what word I thought I was hearing all those years either!

Allinall · 15-01-2019 9:20pm

******.
Fagg,ot

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-01-2019 9:24pm

One Dire Straits song isn't too bad, if it means the entire genre (90% anyway) of rap music is censored due to it's lyrical theme around social irresponsibility.

The Oort Cloud · 15-01-2019 9:25pm

Allinall wrote: »

******.
Fagg,ot

Translated To English... &ollox

Soon, we will not even notice the changes and removal of lyrics. It's a dangerous precedent.

Play 'The Dead Kennedy's' now and most will collapse in shock, needing an ambulance.

To drunk to ****, will be too much of an embarrassment to some men and they will run into their wardrobe to hide of the fear of it all.

Sonics2k · 15-01-2019 9:26pm

Radio censorship, pre-watershed, has been a thing since like the 60's in Ireland?

Go listen to any given Eminem song and you'll get the same thing.

Gimme A Pound · 15-01-2019 9:29pm

Only heard that line of the song in the last I'd say five years. Prior to that, any time I heard the song it didn't even have that verse. So there has obviously been a radio edit for years.

ArchXStanton · 15-01-2019 9:32pm

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

Translated To English... &ollox

Soon, we will not even notice the changes and removal of lyrics. It's a dangerous precedent.

Play 'The Dead Kennedy's' now and most will collapse in shock, needing an ambulance.

To drunk to ****, will be too much of an embarrassment to some men and they will run into their wardrobe to hide of the fear of it all.

Remember when Jello Biafra from DK took on Tipper Gore and her pmrc group on Oprah? For the censoring of an album cover, he made absolute ribbons of her on the show

ArchXStanton · 15-01-2019 9:35pm

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Remember when Jello Biafra from DK took on Tipper Gore and her pmrc group on Oprah? For the censoring of an album cover, he made absolute ribbons of her on the show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_7NSXnlQ64

The Oort Cloud · 15-01-2019 9:36pm

Sonics2k wrote: »

Radio censorship, pre-watershed, has been a thing since like the 60's in Ireland?

Go listen to any given Eminem song and you'll get the same thing.

But, this is the first time ever that I heard a Dire Straits song censored, they always used the full lyrics at least 1 year ago, but I only noticed it and a few other songs missing the original full lyrics.

Gimme A Pound · 15-01-2019 9:36pm

Yeah cuz the Dead Kennedys are always on the radio!

Bleeping out words is not a new thing.

Gimme A Pound · 15-01-2019 9:38pm

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

But, this is the first time ever that I heard a Dire Straits song censored, they always used the full lyrics at least 1 year ago, but I only noticed it and a few other songs missing the original full lyrics.

Despite the song being almost 34 years old, I only first heard the full length version with the "little ******" bit in recent years.

ArchXStanton · 15-01-2019 9:38pm

Dangelo Helpless Painting wrote: »

Yeah cuz the Dead Kennedys are always on the radio!

Bleeping out words is not a new thing.

They should be, the message in their music is more relevant today than it was back then, way ahead of their time and better than 90% of the plastic music for plastic people that's played

The Oort Cloud · 15-01-2019 9:42pm

ArchXStanton wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_7NSXnlQ64

That's very interesting. It does go a long way back indeed. But it's getting a bit over-done now.

Mr. CooL ICE · 15-01-2019 9:44pm

My favourite bit of censorship ever was some rapper smoking a cigar, and MTV has blurred out the smoke coming off the cigar, but not the cigar itself.

BrianD3 · 15-01-2019 9:51pm

I bought the Money for Nothing compilation in about 1992 and the f*ggot verse was cut out entirely. During live performances (e.g. live Aid in 1985) the verse was there but generally with f*ggot changed to "queenie" which itself might be deemed offensive today. As might the "chicks for free" lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcqhvPNiJzo

Love that song.

Alun · 15-01-2019 9:52pm

Dangelo Helpless Painting wrote: »

Despite the song being almost 34 years old, I only first heard the full length version with the "little ******" bit in recent years.

I have the CD bought pretty much when it first came out and have listened back to that track. The f@ggot lines are definitely in there.

troyzer · 15-01-2019 9:52pm

Is ****** blocked on boards?

troyzer · 15-01-2019 9:53pm

troyzer wrote: »

Is ****** blocked on boards?

Hmm, apparently it is.

SEPT 23 1989 · 15-01-2019 9:54pm

Brothers in Arms was the first vinyl album I ever bought

The Oort Cloud · 15-01-2019 9:54pm

Mark Rippetoe wrote: »

My favourite bit of censorship ever was some rapper smoking a cigar, and MTV has blurred out the smoke coming off the cigar, but not the cigar itself.

Yep, that's what we are dealing with now... Lunatics that think the world should be non masculine in every way, just placid and pink with blue hues of serenity mashticated in a smooth covering of boxed thinking and fear of what a human being might say.

The Oort Cloud · 15-01-2019 9:55pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Brothers in Arms was the first vinyl album I ever bought

And what a beautiful album that was. The guitar was really top quality.

Gimme A Pound · 15-01-2019 9:56pm

Alun wrote: »

I have the CD bought pretty much when it first came out and have listened back to that track. The f@ggot lines are definitely in there.

Oh on the album yes of course, but the radio edit omits that part.

NewbridgeIR · 15-01-2019 10:01pm

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

And what a beautiful album that was. The guitar was really top quality.

Walk Of Life ruins the album. So out of place.

The Oort Cloud · 15-01-2019 10:04pm

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

Walk Of Life ruins the album. So out of place.

Yes, but there will always be one in every part of life.

Radio is on its way out now any way, most songs are badly put together, love songs that make you feel energetic to get up and switch to a different channel only to enter another frequency to hear the same downer love song of which almost makes you feel down. The 80's pirate stations were the best, no adds just music, instead of all talk, no music as what is the case today on radio. Radio is almost dead. Nova is the last one, but that could and will go to 15 minutes adverts and no music soon. maybe it's time to shut-down the FM radio spectrum.

NewbridgeIR · 15-01-2019 10:13pm

The original post displays a fundamental ignorance and lack of awareness regarding the concept of radio edits and single versions.

The are at least four versions of Money For Nothing.

The Brothers In Arms album came out in May 1985. The vinyl version has a 7:04 version of Money For Nothing. F****t lyric included. The CD had longer mixes of selected tracks - Money For Nothing is 8:25. Fa***t is in the house.

The Money For Nothing single emerged at the end of June 1985. The 7" includes the single edit which runs for 4:38. No fag**t lyric.

In 1988, Dire Straits released a best of album called Money For Nothing. To promote same, Vertigo put out a single on both 7" and CD that featured an even shorter edit (4:05) of Money For Nothing. No fagg*t on that either.

greencap · 15-01-2019 10:16pm

No consideration given to the fact that in the song he's mocking the people who had called someone a fag.

The lyrics are saying:

You called that guy a fagg0t, and now he's minted, with his own jet, while you're still here hauling microwave ovens and kitchen appliances.
And he's still got his own hair.

Its a complete mockery of narrow mindedness, and ignorance.

But oooh it uses a bad word.

Edit; motion to ban the line 'yeah buddy thats his own hair'.

Baldist.

Destroying A Whole Generation Of Music

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