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Lady Haywire · 12-01-2019 07:59PM

Sold the last two today, 27 & 28th June calves, one lm, one ch, 295 & 340kg, €800.

Brings us to an average of 334kg @ €843 for all, average age of 211 days. Meh. Good bit down on other years

josephsoap · 13-01-2019 06:48PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Sold the last two today, 27 & 28th June calves, one lm, one ch, 295 & 340kg, €800.

Brings us to an average of 334kg @ €843 for all, average age of 211 days. Meh. Good bit down on other years

Two bulls €800 each?

Lady Haywire · 13-01-2019 07:08PM

josephsoap wrote: »

Two bulls €800 each?

Yep, each. Be a sad day if I was selling two for that!

josephsoap · 13-01-2019 07:39PM

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Yep, each. Be a sad day if I was selling two for that!

Not to bad

Have kept a few late calves here born in May/June, have plenty of silage so will keep them on till March/April in the hope prices will rise

Albert Johnson · 13-01-2019 09:57PM

Danzy wrote: »

Lot of cows bring killed so far this year, way up on last year.

Cow slaughterings are up roughly 22,000 or 6% on 2017, this is in a year where the total kill is up approximately 3%. Given the weather related woes since the autumn of 2017 it is easy to see why the cow kill has increased. A cull of both suckler and dairy cows occured throughout the autumn and the suckler cull may continue due to the ever tightening margins associated with the sector.

A percentage of these extra cows would have been slaughtered direct from the herd of origin and the more forward stores have already passed though the system. However many of these cows are still being fattened and in some cases factory fit cows have been retained since before Christmas in the hopes of a price rise.

All these factors combined with an ever increasing exodus from sucklers should ensure an ample supply of cows to be slaughtered for the short to medium term. Cows are usually at a price peak in mid summer when finished cattle supplies are at there lowest, this trend will no doubt be repeated in the coming year.

I believe that these extra cows will be used to make up any shortfall in the prime beef kill for the coming spring. The availability of extra cows to bolster the weekly kill will in my opinion suppress the chance of any meaningful price rises. For this reason I struggle to see the outlook improving for beef in general in the short-term and believe that lads should market stock as they become fit.

patsy_mccabe · 14-01-2019 09:46AM

Anyone know how much the cow kill is up across Europe or where you might find this info?

Base price · 14-01-2019 10:42AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Anyone know how much the cow kill is up across Europe or where you might find this info?

I couldn't find a link but came across UK figures (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/763961/slaughter-statsnotice-13dec18.pdf) which pointed me in the right direction.
According to the eurostat link there is a planned update of figures in Jan 2019. Have fun reading through it

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Agricultural_production_-_animals

locha · 14-01-2019 02:48PM

Was talking to a neighbour over the weekend. I sent a load of steers last week base of 3.75. He rang the same factory last week and was quoted 3.70. He said 3.75 going. Factory said not for Fresians.. and if you don’t want the 3.70 base go elsewhere. Interesting to see now if we start seeing dual pricing coming into play. Also he tried to sell them flat but that was not entertained- and this guy is not a novice when it comes to selling cattle.

Anto_Meath · 14-01-2019 03:53PM

Ye a neighbor of mine was telling me that same story, he rand a few factories all offering 3;70 base for FRs under 30 months. He was saying they all had the same story, chills full don't really want them, only killing a couple of days a week. He rang his usual factor last (Friday afternoon) and they were at the same crack, so he said he would deal with them, asked them when did they want them and the agent replied could he have them there for Monday morning!! It would make you think are they all just playing a game or what are they at.

patsy_mccabe · 14-01-2019 04:35PM

I was talking to someone I know who finishes Fr bullocks and bulls. He was making the point that all Fr calves are all born in a 2 month period. After that time the beef bull is let off with the cows. This means that the factories know exactly from the birth registrations (CMMS) when all these Fr animals will go over age.
Worth bearing in mind for all those who think the Fr are the way to go.

Bass Reeves · 14-01-2019 06:05PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I was talking to someone I know who finishes Fr bullocks and bulls. He was making the point that all Fr calves are all born in a 2 month period. After that time the beef bull is let off with the cows. This means that the factories know exactly from the birth registrations (CMMS) when all these Fr animals will go over age.
Worth bearing in mind for all those who think the Fr are the way to go.

30 months is not an issue with a lot of lads doing Friesians bullocks. Most lads will let them go older and heavier especially lads that do not feed them ration. You will only get QA on 30-40% of Friesians at best on average. Lots of lads are willing to let them go overage to put the weight up. Most friesians are born in January/February so would be hitting 30 months in July/August. Processors usually only start the Autumn price pull from the 2nd week in August as the coloured steers start to hit 30 months.

whelan2 · 15-01-2019 01:04PM

Was in mart there. Good stock making good prices. Had a free Martin aax heifer 560 kg made €1000. She would have been a very poor calf. Fr bull 400 kg made 475. Aax bull 388 kg 600. They got crypto as calves, so were a poor lot. Happy enough.

wiggy123 · 15-01-2019 04:54PM

good prices so.. marts busy with stock like? also what cull cows at--have a 15yr old angus cow here-bad hip! has ok cover-fat wise! factory or mart her?

whelan2 · 15-01-2019 05:01PM

wiggy123 wrote: »

good prices so.. marts busy with stock like? also what cull cows at--have a 15yr old angus cow here-bad hip! has ok cover-fat wise! factory or mart her?

Wasn't a big sale but auctioneer said prices were good. My cattle had a good bit of meal in them but were still outside

wiggy123 · 15-01-2019 05:08PM

good prices.. say is a bit of a pick up!

charolais0153 · 15-01-2019 06:30PM

wiggy123 wrote: »

good prices so.. marts busy with stock like? also what cull cows at--have a 15yr old angus cow here-bad hip! has ok cover-fat wise! factory or mart her?

Factory imo

Albert Johnson · 15-01-2019 08:05PM

wiggy123 wrote: »

good prices so.. marts busy with stock like? also what cull cows at--have a 15yr old angus cow here-bad hip! has ok cover-fat wise! factory or mart her?

Depends on whether there's many dedicated cow men around the ring and on the fat cover of the cow imo. In a normal sale a cow with bad feet is going to be dragged down to dirt unless there's a few men ringside who kill cows regularly. There's lots of lads who'll chance her at small money and kill her straight away and profit from a quick turnover.

If she's adequately fleshed and you can get her killed promptly it's probably as good a plan as any. Unless in a good cow sale it's very hard to get the value of any cow with a dodge to her.

Who2 · 15-01-2019 08:06PM

wiggy123 wrote: »

good prices so.. marts busy with stock like? also what cull cows at--have a 15yr old angus cow here-bad hip! has ok cover-fat wise! factory or mart her?

Factory definitely

whelan2 · 15-01-2019 08:30PM

Who2 wrote: »

Factory definitely

Cow price is still holding in factory. There was some talk of a drop but it hadn't materialised yet

Pidae.m · 15-01-2019 09:24PM

Saw great fr yearling bulls in fermoy 441kg 660. All January born long square outwintered.

Bass Reeves · 15-01-2019 09:55PM

Pidae.m wrote: »

Saw great fr yearling bulls in fermoy 441kg 660. All January born long square outwintered.

I hope he got bulled because if he did not there was two idiots bidding

cute geoge · 15-01-2019 10:22PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I hope he got bulled because if he did not there was two idiots bidding

What price would you say was right for them?

Bass Reeves · 15-01-2019 10:47PM

cute geoge wrote: »

What price would you say was right for them?

With the factor price of Bulls at present and the finishing cost down well below 600. If you are replacing finished stock you are at nothing you cannot afford to buy stock such as this. I presume these are for finish in May so give 120 days feeding at 3.2/day is 384 euro add in mart, slaughter and transport at 50/head and 15 for mortality and 15 for vet and dosing That is 460 euro so they will be hitting over the 1120 before finish. If they kill 280 kgs you will need a price of 4/kg to break even before fixed costs.

If you add in modest fixed cost of 30/head and a margin of 100/head they will need to make 4.3/kg in May. If you work off a projected price of 3.9/kg ( last May price for similar bulls) you could only afford to pay 500/head for them

kevthegaff · 16-01-2019 08:08AM

What are apr/may weanlings making, had to hold them as locked up. All shapes and sizes!

tellmeabit · 16-01-2019 10:37PM

Gortatlea this evening. Small numbers finished by 8
386kg lm Mar 845

400kg ch white Mar 900

355 ch white Mar 845
450 kg hex Mar 750
380kg ch Mar 760
500kg ch Mar 950
385 kg ch may 900 square
400kg lm Feb 970 square
385kg I'm Feb 825 square
310kg lm Mar 750
315 kg lm may 700
305kg lm Mar 700

Hef.

255kg as Feb 455
249kg as Feb 425
350 bb feb 725
317 bbq Feb 635
295 bb Feb 650
340kg ch Jan 835
326kg aa Jan 620
296 kg aa Jan 565.
375kg ch Apr 760
265kg ch Mar 650
440kg ch Nov 1035

tellmeabit · 16-01-2019 10:37PM

Gortatlea this evening. Small numbers finished by 8
386kg lm Mar 845

400kg ch white Mar 900

355 ch white Mar 845
450 kg hex Mar 750
380kg ch Mar 760
500kg ch Mar 950
385 kg ch may 900 square
400kg lm Feb 970 square
385kg I'm Feb 825 square
310kg lm Mar 750
315 kg lm may 700
305kg lm Mar 700

Hef.

255kg as Feb 455
249kg as Feb 425
350 bb feb 725
317 bbq Feb 635
295 bb Feb 650
340kg ch Jan 835
326kg aa Jan 620
296 kg aa Jan 565.
375kg ch Apr 760
265kg ch Mar 650
440kg ch Nov 1035

Welding Rod · 17-01-2019 11:02AM

See report in today’s Indo (can’t post link), quoting Lancet medical journal saying red meat consumption needs to be reduced to the equivalent of half a rasher per person per day, by 2050 in order to save the planet!

Holy Mozes, a good Charolais killing steer will be worth about €25.

That in top of Leo Varadker going vegan .....

Anto_Meath · 17-01-2019 12:10PM

They may just kill people to stop climate change.. it would appear to be the only long term solution....

In fairness, cut out the packaging, plastics and man made fibers would probably go a lot further in helping the planet than cutting back on meat consumption. I would safely guess that a €5 top bought from Pennys (made in sweatshop in China) has a larger carbon footprint than a beef or dairy animal.

patsy_mccabe · 17-01-2019 12:21PM

CO2 from burning Fossil fuels is by far the biggest contributor to Global Warming.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Shares-of-total-GHG-emissions-CO2-from-fossil-fuel-use-is-dominating-in-terms-of_fig1_226079486

mayota · 17-01-2019 02:45PM

Go onto Flightradar24 to see the amount of planes in the sky in realtime. And a big % is luxury/holiday travel.

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