Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 14-01-2019 02:53PM

Kingp35 wrote: »

I'm from Dalkey. Two traveller families have lived in Dalkey for 30 odd years with very little trouble from them. Granted they are settled travellers but my point still stands.

I’m from a midlands town where there’s certainly more than two families. The halting site is situated right next to the train station, across from two primary schools and the town park. You can’t walk out past it for fear of being attacked by the dogs running off the site chasing you and being aggressive.
I grew up not being allowed go to the park because the traveller kids my own age were so blatant about robbing you, they’d take the phone out of your hand while standing in front of you threatening to hurt you.
My father owned land that had crops sown in it, that travellers came onto and left their horses, and went off and locked the gate!

There is a road leading into town that the local residents used to maintain keeping the grass cut and flowers sowed on the side of the road. It was beautiful. That had to be put a stop to because the travellers came along and parked up on top of the grass and the flowers, threw their rubbish straight from the trailers onto the road, had a huge ladder hanging out towards the road held back by a piece of rope fashioned as a clothes line. The absolute sickener though was seeing a man in his 80s from the residents association out picking up their rubbish while two big strapping young lads in their 20s stood looking at him and sneering.

They then moved on to another road, just off a roundabout and each time they moved off from there (only to return back a few weeks later) the council had a huge clean up. They did 60k worth of damage on an unofficial site. The final straw there was when they started to fire guns at each other on the side of the public road.

They then moved on out near the retail park of the town, just before a huge company was moving in. And demanded to be paid by the company to move off. That was actually on a documentary over Xmas. They didn’t show the extortion part though.

They also don’t mention the rural communities being terrified of them. Especially the elderly. Houses robbed. Dogs robbed. Anything not nailed down robbed, basically.

Not to mention my own experience with them. Himself and his girlfriend came into my business, and he raided the place, emptying my till and my handbag. Went down through all the rooms then looking for a cash box. I was on the premises, I saw his face. I had his girlfriends name. But he didn’t give one flying fukk because they do whatever they want.

tretorn · 14-01-2019 02:53PM

obby1 wrote: »

oxymoron, settled travellers, so they now have a link to the community, shocked i am, people not causing trouble where they have set down roots.

Outnumbered also and local residents will jump on them if they step out of line. Residents will also guard local open spaces continually so travellers rellies dont pitch up with caravans.

I passed the RTE site this morning, lovely houses and apartments now for sale, Donnybrook Gardens, nice address if you have a couple of million in cash to buy.

There wont be one single traveller housed there. There might be social housing but if so the tenants will be handpicked so they wont cause trouble.

This is where Ryan Tubridy works, he can afford to be dismissive of Peter Casey.

tretorn · 14-01-2019 03:08PM

They seemed to have started flinging acid at each other now. Probably dont pay for the acid either.

They are savages, the whole town will be in fear, maybe the Church authorities should refuse to allow the funeral to go ahead. They have the ceremony of their halting site and if they cause damage there let them pay for it themselves. Dont send the Gardai in to protect them, just set up cordons around the halting site and let them at it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/education-system-fails-travellers-report-finds-1.3747088

More of the whole world is agin me.

Maybe if members of this community stopped shoplifting security guards might stop phoning each other when the travellers arrive in town.

Maybe if they didnt drink to excess and then behave like wild animals hotel and bars might welcome their money.

hurler32 · 14-01-2019 04:40PM

It’s crazy 60 gardai have to attend a traveller funeral in Longford today to try and prevent travellers attacking each other and frightening the life out of the ordinary people of Longford trying to do a days work .
How much will it cost the tax payer today to police a traveller funeral ?
And there are no guards to protect the elderly people living on their own in rural Ireland from been robbed ?
Only in Ireland would those who contribute nothing get everything

punisher5112 · 14-01-2019 04:46PM

hurler32 wrote: »

It’s crazy 60 gardai have to attend a traveller funeral in Longford today to try and prevent travellers attacking each other and frightening the life out of the ordinary people of Longford trying to do a days work .
How much will it cost the tax payer today to police a traveller funeral ?
And there are no guards to protect the elderly people living on their own in rural Ireland from been robbed ?
Only in Ireland would those who contribute nothing get everything

Don't forget air unit will be costly too.

I say let them shoot each other up.

Spanish Eyes · 14-01-2019 05:11PM

I hope Center Parcs has good security on its new site in Longford.

JPCN1 · 14-01-2019 05:16PM

obby1 wrote: »

when they build a halting site in the following places , then the media can have a real discussion.
Foxrock
Dalkey
Castleknock
Blackrock
Howth
feel free to add to the list of areas that deserve a halting site

There are two in Blackrock already thanks.

CatFromHue · 14-01-2019 05:25PM

Foxrock is actually a tiny place, but there are a few halting sites nearby to it

Gravelly · 14-01-2019 05:51PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Foxrock is actually a tiny place, but there are a few halting sites nearby to it

It would appear that putting them in "nice" areas does nothing to civilise them:

Early-morning raid on traveller site in affluent area of Dublin

Garda threatened as they searched Blackrock halting site

Woman accused over theft spree

3 in Public Order and Assault Charges

Bench warrant issued for Blackrock man seen rolling around fighting with another man

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 07:34PM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

I’m from a midlands town where there’s certainly more than two families. The halting site is situated right next to the train station, across from two primary schools and the town park. You can’t walk out past it for fear of being attacked by the dogs running off the site chasing you and being aggressive.
I grew up not being allowed go to the park because the traveller kids my own age were so blatant about robbing you, they’d take the phone out of your hand while standing in front of you threatening to hurt you.
My father owned land that had crops sown in it, that travellers came onto and left their horses, and went off and locked the gate!

There is a road leading into town that the local residents used to maintain keeping the grass cut and flowers sowed on the side of the road. It was beautiful. That had to be put a stop to because the travellers came along and parked up on top of the grass and the flowers, threw their rubbish straight from the trailers onto the road, had a huge ladder hanging out towards the road held back by a piece of rope fashioned as a clothes line. The absolute sickener though was seeing a man in his 80s from the residents association out picking up their rubbish while two big strapping young lads in their 20s stood looking at him and sneering.

They then moved on to another road, just off a roundabout and each time they moved off from there (only to return back a few weeks later) the council had a huge clean up. They did 60k worth of damage on an unofficial site. The final straw there was when they started to fire guns at each other on the side of the public road.

They then moved on out near the retail park of the town, just before a huge company was moving in. And demanded to be paid by the company to move off. That was actually on a documentary over Xmas. They didn’t show the extortion part though.

They also don’t mention the rural communities being terrified of them. Especially the elderly. Houses robbed. Dogs robbed. Anything not nailed down robbed, basically.

Not to mention my own experience with them. Himself and his girlfriend came into my business, and he raided the place, emptying my till and my handbag. Went down through all the rooms then looking for a cash box. I was on the premises, I saw his face. I had his girlfriends name. But he didn’t give one flying fukk because they do whatever they want.

Rodent scum

Church on Tuesday · 14-01-2019 07:37PM

tretorn wrote: »

Outnumbered also and local residents will jump on them if they step out of line. Residents will also guard local open spaces continually so travellers rellies dont pitch up with caravans.

I passed the RTE site this morning, lovely houses and apartments now for sale, Donnybrook Gardens, nice address if you have a couple of million in cash to buy.

There wont be one single traveller housed there. There might be social housing but if so the tenants will be handpicked so they wont cause trouble.

This is where Ryan Tubridy works, he can afford to be dismissive of Peter Casey.

Casey doesn't have to live beside travelers either.

It blows my mind that people here actually think Mr. Casey gives a toss about people suffering from travelers.

It was an election tactic. That's all. And a clever one too, because he knew or rather his team knew that it's an issue for a lot of folk in middle rural Ireland and a handy way to get votes from people in that demographic just to get into an office/gravy train that HAS NO POWER whatsoever to do anything about that particular issue.

I mean seriously, people here are so gullible by times.

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 07:38PM

hurler32 wrote: »

It’s crazy 60 gardai have to attend a traveller funeral in Longford today to try and prevent travellers attacking each other and frightening the life out of the ordinary people of Longford trying to do a days work .
How much will it cost the tax payer today to police a traveller funeral ?
And there are no guards to protect the elderly people living on their own in rural Ireland from been robbed ?
Only in Ireland would those who contribute nothing get everything

I'm actually serious when I say I'd prefer live next to infidel hating islamists, you might end up dead but at least prior to that, you would endure a lot less chaos in your life

Travellers = chaos all of the time, even buying groceries in lidl, they are shouting across the aisles about the kind of cereal they want for nelly ward

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 07:40PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Casey doesn't have to live beside travelers either.

It blows my mind that people here actually think Mr. Casey gives a toss about people suffering from travelers.

It was an election tactic. That's all. And a clever one too, because he knew or rather his team knew that it's an issue for a lot of folk in middle rural Ireland and a handy way to get votes from people in that demographic just to get into an office/gravy train that HAS NO POWER whatsoever to do anything about that particular issue.

I mean seriously, people here are so gullible by times.

Your thesis is purely speculative and has little credibility, casey cares as much about traveller victims as the phoney in the aras anyway

Church on Tuesday · 14-01-2019 07:49PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Your thesis is purely speculative and has little credibility, casey cares as much about traveller victims as the phoney in the aras anyway

Nothing speculative about the President of Ireland having fook all power though is there?

That's a fact.

punisher5112 · 14-01-2019 07:49PM

Leprechaun in now and has been doesn't live in the real world and I don't believe he ever has.

Since when do any of speak the way he does and how far away from reality he is.

punisher5112 · 14-01-2019 07:49PM

Leprechaun in now and has been doesn't live in the real world and I don't believe he ever has.

Since when do any of speak the way he does and how far away from reality he is.

tretorn · 14-01-2019 07:51PM

He spent the New Year ringing in the year in some very swanky resort in the Canaries.

Why didnt he stay in the Aras and invite the Cashes to celebrate with him.

hawkelady · 14-01-2019 08:02PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Nothing speculative about the President of Ireland having fook all power though is there?

That's a fact.

I would rather a president who doesn’t lie. Casey spoke honestly. Midget man spoke like a tool , saying he’d have no problem living next to travellers ! He’s a liar

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 08:13PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Nothing speculative about the President of Ireland having fook all power though is there?

That's a fact.

What has that got to do with what you said earlier?

Mad_maxx · 14-01-2019 08:14PM

hawkelady wrote: »

I would rather a president who doesn’t lie. Casey spoke honestly. Midget man spoke like a tool , saying he’d have no problem living next to travellers ! He’s a liar

Miggeldy is a tax funded lifer, in a country full of PC phonies, the man is king

lbc2019 · 14-01-2019 08:16PM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

I’m from a midlands town where there’s certainly more than two families. The halting site is situated right next to the train station, across from two primary schools and the town park. You can’t walk out past it for fear of being attacked by the dogs running off the site chasing you and being aggressive.
I grew up not being allowed go to the park because the traveller kids my own age were so blatant about robbing you, they’d take the phone out of your hand while standing in front of you threatening to hurt you.

I live there, I'm calling boll0x on that. Kids play in the playground all day- no issues. I live across from the halting site, not much issue with traveller dogs, meanwhile Fiachra and Grainne have no issue letting their prized pooch shight on my road and not clean it up!

Church on Tuesday · 14-01-2019 08:31PM

hawkelady wrote: »

I would rather a president who doesn’t lie. Casey spoke honestly. Midget man spoke like a tool , saying he’d have no problem living next to travellers ! He’s a liar

He said what he or his team thought would get him votes.

He was being dishonest because there is nothing he could do about it if he was actually elected President.

This guy is being held up as the second coming of Christ by some here, it's laughable. A multi millionaire saying 'controversial' things about travelers to curry favor with middle Ireland, the actual victims of traveler crime, all just to get into the Áras (funded by the tax payer) and then to swan around Europe and afar meeting dignitaries and giving speeches. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile travelers would continue to get away with their skulduggery and there would literally be not a thing Mr. Casey could or indeed would do about it.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 14-01-2019 08:32PM

lbc2019 wrote: »

I live there, I'm calling boll0x on that. Kids play in the playground all day- no issues. I live across from the halting site, not much issue with traveller dogs, meanwhile Fiachra and Grainne have no issue letting their prized pooch shight on my road and not clean it up!

Yeah, I’m sure you’re aware of the funding that went to cleaning up the park, and making it safe for kids to use. When I was a teenager in town, in the early 2000s, you did not go anywhere near the park. I don’t live too far from the halting site, and commuted for years, and have had many issues with the dogs from the halting site chasing and snapping and I am certainly not the only one who’s complained about this.

padd b1975 · 14-01-2019 08:35PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

He said what he or his team thought would get him votes.

He was being dishonest because there is nothing he could do about it if he was actually elected President.

This guy is being held up as the second coming of Christ by some here, it's laughable. A multi millionaire saying 'controversial' things about travelers to curry favor with middle Ireland, the actual victims of traveler crime, all just to get into the Áras (funded by the tax payer) and then to swan around Europe and afar meeting dignitaries and giving speeches. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile travelers would continue to get away with their skulduggery and there would literally be not a thing Mr. Casey could or indeed would do about it.

What was controversial about what he said?

I only heard inconvenient truths.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 14-01-2019 08:35PM

lbc2019 wrote: »

I live there, I'm calling boll0x on that. Kids play in the playground all day- no issues. I live across from the halting site, not much issue with traveller dogs, meanwhile Fiachra and Grainne have no issue letting their prized pooch shight on my road and not clean it up!

Also do you have anything to add to the fact that very same halting site has been raided on numerous occasions for drugs? Mostly heroin and benzos?

Church on Tuesday · 14-01-2019 08:38PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

What was controversial about what he said?

I only heard inconvenient truths.

Nothing, that's the whole point.

Everyone and their dog knows there are scumbag travelers, hardly need a millionaire to tell people that.

Paddy Cow · 14-01-2019 09:23PM

tretorn wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/education-system-fails-travellers-report-finds-1.3747088

More of the whole world is agin me.

I've said it before and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face. Travellers don't value education. They view it like normal people view learning Irish in schools. It's something to be endured but you're not going to need it in your everyday adult life. There is so much money thrown at trying to keep Travellers in school but until they actually see a value in it, that money would be better spent on parents with kids with special needs, who have to fight tooth and nail to get an education for their kids.

If the Government actually enforced the rule that you have to keep your kids in school until at least 16 and couldn't take them out at 12, only to marry at 15, Traveller kids might actually have a chance. But that will never happen because that would be racist against their "culture" :rolleyes:

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

It blows my mind that people here actually think Mr. Casey gives a toss about people suffering from travelers.

Most people don't care about Casey's motives. What they do care about is that since he made his remarks, it's actually shone a light on what "settled" people were thinking but not allowed to say. Casey is a business man and I don't doubt for a second he was drawn to the Presidential election for his own gain. So what. If I thought people would vote for me, I'd go for it. Huge salary plus expenses and a pension of €140,000 for life. Count me in!

I heard his initial interview and he didn't come across as someone who was saying it to get votes. He was only at 1% so knew he had no chance of winning. When he said what he did, he had no way of knowing that it would blow up in the media like it did. The media and politicians all turned against him and expected him to back down. He didn't and that's what made a lot of people respect him. In this day and age of social media justice, you say one wrong thing and you're expected to give a grovelling apology.

Casey didn't back down and despite nearly every media outlet telling us that he was wrong and Travellers are just poor misrepresented outcasts in Irish society, the public voted to show otherwise. Whatever Casey's motives were, he allowed us to talk about how we really feel about Travellers and their culture and the effect it has on normal Irish people.

Two years ago this thread would have been deleted long ago. It's a testament to Casey's "Butterfly Effect" that we are still able to discuss this. One thing I would say though. There have been a few posts creeping in calling them rats and making not so nice aspersions. That's the type of thing that gets a thread locked. I ain't a mod and may get a paddling for back seat modding but if we're not careful, this thread may get shut down, which would be a shame.

Church on Tuesday · 14-01-2019 10:00PM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it until I'm blue in the face. Travellers don't value education. They view it like normal people view learning Irish in schools. It's something to be endured but you're not going to need it in your everyday adult life. There is so much money thrown at trying to keep Travellers in school but until they actually see a value in it, that money would be better spent on parents with kids with special needs, who have to fight tooth and nail to get an education for their kids.

If the Government actually enforced the rule that you have to keep your kids in school until at least 16 and couldn't take them out at 12, only to marry at 15, Traveller kids might actually have a chance. But that will never happen because that would be racist against their "culture" :rolleyes:

Most people don't care about Casey's motives. What they do care about is that since he made his remarks, it's actually shone a light on what "settled" people were thinking but not allowed to say. Casey is a business man and I don't doubt for a second he was drawn to the Presidential election for his own gain. So what. If I thought people would vote for me, I'd go for it. Huge salary plus expenses and a pension of €140,000 for life. Count me in!

I heard his initial interview and he didn't come across as someone who was saying it to get votes. He was only at 1% so knew he had no chance of winning. When he said what he did, he had no way of knowing that it would blow up in the media like it did. The media and politicians all turned against him and expected him to back down. He didn't and that's what made a lot of people respect him. In this day and age of social media justice, you say one wrong thing and you're expected to give a grovelling apology.

Casey didn't back down and despite nearly every media outlet telling us that he was wrong and Travellers are just poor misrepresented outcasts in Irish society, the public voted to show otherwise. Whatever Casey's motives were, he allowed us to talk about how we really feel about Travellers and their culture and the effect it has on normal Irish people.

Two years ago this thread would have been deleted long ago. It's a testament to Casey's "Butterfly Effect" that we are still able to discuss this. One thing I would say though. There have been a few posts creeping in calling them rats and making not so nice aspersions. That's the type of thing that gets a thread locked. I ain't a mod and may get a paddling for back seat modding but if we're not careful, this thread may get shut down, which would be a shame.

Everything that's wrong with politics in this country.

Charlie Haughey would be proud wha?

Actually, hypothetical scenario because I'm slightly curious; what do you and the followers of the cult of Casey think would have happend if Casey was elected President and what do you think he could have done about the traveler issue?

lbc2019 · 14-01-2019 10:06PM

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

Also do you have anything to add to the fact that very same halting site has been raided on numerous occasions for drugs? Mostly heroin and benzos?

You seem to know a lot about it... No I don't, but is that not an awful curse having the addiction? No one choses to be a heroin addict

Gimme A Pound · 14-01-2019 10:11PM

Casey didn't say anything hateful though. He said travellers should not be given a special status and should be held to the same standards as anyone - the opposite to discrimination.

And he mentioned the disproprtionate levels of particular problems in the traveller community - what's wrong with the truth?

Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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