Garda vetting: Dismissed prosecution?

Guestposter · 10-01-2019 07:44PM #1

am being garda vetted and three years ago I got arrested for shop lifting (stupid I know) but the case got thrown out. Will it appear on the form?

Purple Mountain · 10-01-2019 07:46PM

I think this would be better in the legal forum.

IITYWYBMAD · 11-01-2019 10:01AM

Guestposter wrote: »

am being garda vetted and three years ago I got arrested for shop lifting (stupid I know) but the case got thrown out. Will it appear on the form?

If it's for a Job or GAA/Soccer coach, it will.

The details will not be revealed to the person who is seeking the vetting.

However, if you have not specifically listed this on your vetting form, when submitting, the response will come back with a note on it that there is a record, but not something that should prevent you from being in the presence of children (for example).

....... · 11-01-2019 10:09AM

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

If it's for a Job or GAA/Soccer coach, it will.

The details will not be revealed to the person who is seeking the vetting.

However, if you have not specifically listed this on your vetting form, when submitting, the response will come back with a note on it that there is a record, but not something that should prevent you from being in the presence of children (for example).

Thats very interesting - even if the case was thrown out?

So someone completely innocent of any crime has a criminal record just for being arrested?

woodchuck · 11-01-2019 10:11AM

Mod note:

OP I'm going to move this to the Legal Discussion forum as I think your question is better suited there.

All posters should note that the Legal Discussion charter now applies.

ohnonotgmail · 11-01-2019 10:33AM

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

If it's for a Job or GAA/Soccer coach, it will.

The details will not be revealed to the person who is seeking the vetting.

However, if you have not specifically listed this on your vetting form, when submitting, the response will come back with a note on it that there is a record, but not something that should prevent you from being in the presence of children (for example).

....... wrote: »

Thats very interesting - even if the case was thrown out?

So someone completely innocent of any crime has a criminal record just for being arrested?

Garda vetting returns more than just convictions. It also includes specified information relating to harm of children or vulnerable people where relevant. i dont see how it would return a prosecution for shoplifting.

https://vetting.garda.ie/VettingProcedure/SpecifiedInformation

nuac · 11-01-2019 01:25PM

LD Mod
Amended title for clarity

Azizur Rahman · 17-01-2019 09:50PM

Vetting won't show your prosecution getting thrown out. It only shows convictions and anything relating to allegations of harm against children.

drunkmonkey · 17-01-2019 10:50PM

....... wrote: »

So someone completely innocent of any crime has a criminal record just for being arrested?

As far as i'm aware the Gardai will have a record of it forever for operational reasons (this makes sense depending on the crime), it won't show up in vetting.
You'll have to declare it on Visa applications as well even though it was dismissed. I'm not sure how much of your data the state shares with foreigh countries but getting caught not telling the truth on an American visa for example could get you barred from travelling there for a long time.

seamus · 17-01-2019 11:42PM

IIRC anything which is to be included on the vetting application is notified to the applicant first, who has a set period of time in which to respond on it.

joey100 · 21-01-2019 01:29PM

@Seamus, that's only for specified information. Normal disclosures are given to the organisation first and then the applicant should be consulted to make sure it is them and they are aware of the charges.

Garda vetting: Dismissed prosecution?

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