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Horrendous assault in Lucan

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  • #52
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    When they started to run out of forever homes in Ballyfermot, Neilstown, Clondalkin etc they shoved them out to Lucan. Add a bit of Diversity to the mix and you have a sinkhole.

    When they decided to sell up their council homes so they could make quick money off developers friends they moved them all out to Tallaght. Been doing so and expanding on that since the 70's and 80's.

    Sorry, different 'they'.
    Dismantle neighbourhoods. Stick a bunch of families on low/no income in one big lump out somewhere with little transport and amenities and shock horror...it doesn't turn out well.


  • #53
    conjon
    Registered Users Posts: 457 ✭✭conjon


    klaaaz wrote: »
    Lucan is fast becoming a no-go area. I avoid the area nowadays, too many murders, assaults and feral youths on the rampage. Lucan is not a safe place to live in.

    What? Let me just add I've lived in Lucan for over 10 years and would say it's got worse, but to describe it as a no go area is a complete exaggeration..


  • #54
    Dial Hard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,106 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    klaaaz wrote:
    Lucan is fast becoming a no-go area. I avoid the area nowadays, too many murders, assaults and feral youths on the rampage. Lucan is not a safe place to live in.

    Mein gott! I'm lucky to have made it back from my brother's post-Christmas steak night in one piece by the sounds of things!


  • #55
    klaaaz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    conjon wrote: »
    What?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108989045&postcount=12

    And https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/up-50-youths-launch-unprovoked-15617425
    And https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2018/1229/1019485-lucan-assault/

    Lucan is the new Sheriff St of Dublin :eek:


  • #56
    1874
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭1874


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Lucan of old is decent enough. The housing estates built in the last 15 years are horrendous kips. Rows of soulless cheap houses full of undesirables.


    There are still a lot of good people, mostly are, in the new part of Lucan, that said, the rot seems to have spread westwards across New Lucan, I recal even when Foxborough was ok, mostly when it was new home owners, and Grifeen was quite nice, now Grifeen can be a bit dodgy and around the park, even older established parts of Clondalkin are nicer.
    Im not sure its any better in any other areas such as Leixlip, Maynooth or Celdbridge in housing estates. The thing is, I consider the primary schools to be great in the Lucan area, 3 educate togethers in that area, but it doesnt matter how good things are, there will always be scum, I think its the outcome of having policies that have led to it being a requirement to necessitate both parents working all hours to buy a home and now ultimately to rent one, meaning kids are left to run riot, many have no chance, but they should be made answerable for their choices.


  • #57
    Mr. CooL ICE
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    Mod: Merged


  • #58
    emo72
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    riemann wrote: »
    Assault

    Another assault

    I'm not even going to bother posting links of the poor young girl that was murdered by a 13 year old.

    Is there something in the water out there that causes the young to lose the run of themselves?

    Sad to see a few bad eggs terrorising the neighbourhood. Hopefully 18 years from the 1st of January 2018 there will be less of this behaviour.

    looking out the front door right now as we speak. all quiet on the western front Sah!


  • #59
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,414 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    emo72 wrote: »
    looking out the front door right now as we speak. all quiet on the western front Sah!

    I was also posted there last night and most of today.
    Nothing happened...... Sah!


  • #60
    simonw
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    klaaaz wrote: »
    Lucan is fast becoming a no-go area. I avoid the area nowadays, too many murders, assaults and feral youths on the rampage. Lucan is not a safe place to live in.

    You must not leave your house much if Lucan is a "no-go area" :rolleyes:


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  • #61
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,685 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I live in Limerick between 10 and 15 years ago and am currently living in Lucan. This nonexistant trouble seems to keep following me. Or maybe I'm causing this nonexistant trouble?


  • #62
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Mark Rippetoe wrote: »
    I live in Limerick between 10 and 15 years ago and am currently living in Lucan. This nonexistant trouble seems to keep following me. Or maybe I'm causing this nonexistant trouble?


    You must have picked up a fair few stab wounds in that time. I understand most people in Limerick have been stabbed to death at least once. Lucan can't be far off at this stage.


  • #63
    decmeister
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭decmeister


    klaaaz wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108989045&postcount=12

    And https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/up-50-youths-launch-unprovoked-15617425
    And https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2018/1229/1019485-lucan-assault/

    Lucan is the new Sheriff St of Dublin :eek:[/QUOTE
    are you for real??????


  • #64
    dhaughton99
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    “In a separate incident, Gardaí in Lucan are also investigating an armed robbery at a house in the Meile an Rí estate in Lucan overnight on Tuesday.”

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/man-seriously-assaulted-by-four-teenagers-while-walking-home-from-work-37699548.html


  • #65
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
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    Was sale agreed on a house in lucan 18 months ago. Pretty glad that went south. It is definitely worse than it was.


  • #66
    decmeister
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    dhaughton99 wrote: »
    “In a separate incident, Gardaí in Lucan are also investigating an armed robbery at a house in the Meile an Rí estate in Lucan overnight on Tuesday.”

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/man-seriously-assaulted-by-four-teenagers-while-walking-home-from-work-37699548.html

    NOT LUCAN


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  • #67
    corner of hells
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    Mark Rippetoe wrote: »
    I live in Limerick between 10 and 15 years ago and am currently living in Lucan. This nonexistant trouble seems to keep following me. Or maybe I'm causing this nonexistant trouble?

    I believe some of the ducks in the river in the village are from Limerick too.
    Rough lookin' bastard's


  • #68
    Ronaldinho
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    corner of hells wrote: »
    I believe some of the ducks in the river in the village are from Limerick too.
    Rough lookin' bastard's

    Darwin - fordeners would have had them ate if they looked tastier


  • #69
    r93kaey5p2izun
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    average_runner wrote: »


      The murder was not in Lucan and wasn't by anyone from Lucan.

      Lived in Lucan over 10 years and never a issue.

      Over 50,000 people your bound to hear a few stories.

      I have a personal connection to the property. It is Lucan. Always was always will be.

      I'm always amazed at people who recently moved into Lucan arbitrarily deciding what is and isn't Lucan and talking about "old Lucan". My family have roots in Lucan going back several hundred years. Coldblow is Lucan and Lucan stretches much further than that to Allenswood. Balgaddy, with the exception of Foxdene, was always Lucan. Adamstown was always Lucan. Check out some historical maps.


    1. #70
      DellyBelly
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      dhaughton99 wrote: »
      “In a separate incident, Gardaí in Lucan are also investigating an armed robbery at a house in the Meile an Rí estate in Lucan overnight on Tuesday.”

      https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/man-seriously-assaulted-by-four-teenagers-while-walking-home-from-work-37699548.html

      Read about that on the paper today. Shocking. I always thought Lucan had a decent enough reputation. Obviously it's gone downhill very quickly over the last few years


    2. #71
      Odhinn
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      Captain Obvious wrote: »
      You must have picked up a fair few stab wounds in that time. I understand most people in Limerick have been stabbed to death at least once. Lucan can't be far off at this stage.




      A lot of that is friendly stabbin though. Outsiders not used to it tend to take it more seriously than is intended.


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    4. #72
      spurious
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      Looks like Lucan is the new Coolock. Anything bad happening within about 4 kms will be described as being in Lucan. Anything good is probably Leixlip.


    5. #73
      James Brown
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      I was in Limerick for a few days and I wasn't stabbed once. Is it me? Is it some signal I'm giving off? I can take it.


    6. #74
      r93kaey5p2izun
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      Richard Hillman wrote: »
      When they started to run out of forever homes in Ballyfermot, Neilstown, Clondalkin etc they shoved them out to Lucan. Add a bit of Diversity to the mix and you have a sinkhole.

      Well plenty of "Lucan people" were housed in Neilstown originally, my family included. They have extended family in Lucan going back generations and yes, some of the next generation are now being housed in Lucan again since it has been built up. Many of those causing trouble now have long term connection to Lucan.


    7. #75
      GAA Beo
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      1874 wrote: »
      The thing is, I consider the primary schools to be great in the Lucan area, 3 educate togethers in that area,
      ???

      Educate Together are the worst schools. Look at the school rankings lists. A circus is how they have been described, they call the teachers by their first name!


    8. #76
      thegreengoblin
      Registered Users Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


      GAA Beo wrote: »
      ???

      Educate Together are the worst schools. Look at the school rankings lists. A circus is how they have been described, they call the teachers by their first name!

      Jesus that's horrific! What's the world coming to I wonder?


    9. #77
      spurious
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      GAA Beo wrote: »
      ???

      Educate Together are the worst schools. Look at the school rankings lists. A circus is how they have been described, they call the teachers by their first name!

      The kids we used to get into our second level school from Educate Together were always fantastic kids, with parents seriously interested and involved in their education, which put them way ahead of the others.


    10. #78
      GAA Beo
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      thegreengoblin wrote: »
      Jesus that's horrific! What's the world coming to I wonder?
      Doesn't really help the situation it sounds pathetic. "Steve I didn't do my geography homework!". I'm not surprised there is a bunch of feral ill disciplined children roaming around.


    11. #79
      GAA Beo
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      spurious wrote: »
      The kids we used to get into our second level school from Educate Together were always fantastic kids, with parents seriously interested and involved in their education, which put them way ahead of the others.
      I've heard different from other teachers, that they were behind on most of the stuff. But maybe it depends on the individual school.


    12. #80
      The Enbalmer
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭The Enbalmer


      20 years ago lucan was a sleepy place. In the last 5 or 6 years it has turned into a cesspit of crime,due in part to its distance from any meaningful amenities and also it has continued to grow hugely,merging with areas that have always been dumps.


    13. #81
      begbysback
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      Amaya Quick Gravel wrote: »
      I have a personal connection to the property. It is Lucan. Always was always will be.

      I'm always amazed at people who recently moved into Lucan arbitrarily deciding what is and isn't Lucan and talking about "old Lucan". My family have roots in Lucan going back several hundred years. Coldblow is Lucan and Lucan stretches much further than that to Allenswood. Balgaddy, with the exception of Foxdene, was always Lucan. Adamstown was always Lucan. Check out some historical maps.

      Balgaddy may have a Lucan postcode, however like its surrounding areas is very much Clondalkin.


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    15. #82
      Spanish Eyes
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      Look up Balgaddy as Gaeilge. Baile an Gadai Town of the robbers. lol.


    16. #83
      r93kaey5p2izun
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      begbysback wrote: »
      Balgaddy may have a Lucan postcode, however like its surrounding areas is very much Clondalkin.

      According to who?? The Bush of Balgaddy was the traditional boundary. It stood where the old Goodwin's shop was - now site of the application for the new mosque. Just opposite the FAI building. Look it up.


    17. #84
      sk8erboii
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      Me personally? I dont even go to the local saloon unless i have my six shooters


    18. #85
      Odhinn
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      sk8erboii wrote: »
      Me personally? I dont even go to the local saloon unless i have my six shooters


      The joy of the modern world - 8 shot wheelguns
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    19. #86
      Oasis1974
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      GAA Beo wrote: »
      I've heard different from other teachers, that they were behind on most of the stuff. But maybe it depends on the individual school.

      They should stop trying to eat their school books and read them instead. They'll only end up selling drugs or being murdered.


    20. #87
      rgodard80a
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      The Enbalmer wrote: »
      In the last 5 or 6 years it has turned into a cesspit of crime,due in part to its distance from any meaningful amenities and also it has continued to grow hugely,merging with areas that have always been dumps.

      There's a huge racial mix in Lucan, lots of Africans especially around Griffeen Avenue on the Ronanstown side where the gang of 50 attacked the teens recently. I used to see African kids/teens shadow boxing as they walked to school. Tonnes of taxi drivers live there as it has easy access to the city centre.
      But there's a high percentage of rented housing and social housing there too, where the occupants will never be as community focused as those who own houses there.

      Glad I sold up a few years ago, I was there for 11 years.
      Didn't want my kids to grow up in that environment.


    21. #88
      The Enbalmer
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      rgodard80a wrote: »
      The Enbalmer wrote: »
      In the last 5 or 6 years it has turned into a cesspit of crime,due in part to its distance from any meaningful amenities and also it has continued to grow hugely,merging with areas that have always been dumps.

      There's a huge racial mix in Lucan, lots of Africans especially around Griffeen Avenue on the Ronanstown side where the gang of 50 attacked the teens recently. I used to see African kids/teens shadow boxing as they walked to school. .

      African gangs are the big elephant in the room in an increasing number of areas,there seems to operate in much larger numbers than traditional 'youths' and as attacks on portmarnock and malahide have shown,they're getting very organised and brazen.


    22. #89
      corner of hells
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,414 ✭✭✭corner of hells


      The Enbalmer wrote: »
      20 years ago lucan was a sleepy place. In the last 5 or 6 years it has turned into a cesspit of crime,due in part to its distance from any meaningful amenities and also it has continued to grow hugely,merging with areas that have always been dumps.

      A cesspit of crime ? You are joking.
      What sort of meaningful amenities is it lacking ?


    23. #90
      The Enbalmer
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      corner of hells wrote: »
      The Enbalmer wrote: »
      20 years ago lucan was a sleepy place. In the last 5 or 6 years it has turned into a cesspit of crime,due in part to its distance from any meaningful amenities and also it has continued to grow hugely,merging with areas that have always been dumps.

      A cesspit of crime ? You are joking.
      What sort of meaningful amenities is it lacking ?


      Well large parts of lucan are a good distance from bus routes,its a good distance out from the city centre and is ringed with housing estates flanked by main roads and a motorway..theres nothing in lucan really but houses.


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    25. #91
      El_Bee
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      corner of hells wrote: »
      A cesspit of crime ? You are joking.
      What sort of meaningful amenities is it lacking ?




      "There's no facilities" is a cop-out phrase I've heard since I was a little boy.


    26. #92
      rgodard80a
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      The Enbalmer wrote: »
      Well large parts of lucan are a good distance from bus routes,its a good distance out from the city centre

      The 25a/b goes through most of the estates in "New" Lucan, ie. The south of the n4. You would be unfortunate.if you were more than 15 mins walk from any bus stop. Also served by night links.


    27. #93
      corner of hells
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,414 ✭✭✭corner of hells


      The Enbalmer wrote: »
      Well large parts of lucan are a good distance from bus routes,its a good distance out from the city centre and is ringed with housing estates flanked by main roads and a motorway..theres nothing in lucan really but houses.

      It's 16 km to the city centre .
      It's surrounded by open spaces , lots of soccer teams , GAA clubs , athlettics clubs ,fishing and canoeing on the river and canal.
      Couple of nice pubs around the village .

      Nothing really.


    28. #94
      corner of hells
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,414 ✭✭✭corner of hells


      rgodard80a wrote: »
      The 25a/b goes through most of the estates in "New" Lucan, ie. The south of the n4. You would be unfortunate.if you were more than 15 mins walk from any bus stop. Also served by night links.

      25s service old Lucan as well as 66and 67s.


    29. #95
      Happy4all
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      Mark Rippetoe wrote: »
      I live in Limerick between 10 and 15 years ago and am currently living in Lucan. This nonexistant trouble seems to keep following me. Or maybe I'm causing this nonexistant trouble?

      Well, Limerick had a reputation 10/15 years ago and now it's Lucan has the reputation. Just saying😀


    30. #96
      corner of hells
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      Happy4all wrote: »
      Well, Limerick had a reputation 10/15 years ago and now it's Lucan has the reputation. Just saying😀

      Hopefully , Lucan will become a City of Culture in the next few years.

      Limerick had gang warfare , Lucan has a bunch of feral teens running wild , bit of a difference.


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    32. #97
      Berserker
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      The Enbalmer wrote: »
      20 years ago lucan was a sleepy place. In the last 5 or 6 years it has turned into a cesspit of crime,due in part to its distance from any meaningful amenities and also it has continued to grow hugely,merging with areas that have always been dumps.

      Having a laugh? Lucan has fantastic facilities. Off the top of my head, they have Liffey valley for cinema, shopping and all that good stuff within spitting distance. In terms of sports you have GAA sports, football, athletics, hockey and water sports of all sorts in clubs along the liffey. The city centre is a short hop away on the bus. It's one of the better spots when it comes to amenities.


    33. #98
      msshono
      Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭msshono


      There was a post on Lucan Parents group in the past few hours where a resident, earlier today, witnessed teenagers in school uniform smoking weed at a public place and then getting into a car and driving (under the influence). The OP was trying to identify the school uniforms (no faces posted in the picture) so as to notify the schools and also Gardai. The OP was lambasted and laughed at by the majority on the post for ‘not minding their own business’ and for ‘being in the wrong for taking photos of minors’. Comments such as ‘it’s only a bit of weed’ and ‘they could be at worse’. This to me says a lot about the local problems, assuming these commenters on the post were parents given it’s a parents page...a number of parents couldn’t give a toss where their kids are, what they’re doing or how they’re behaving. And then excuse an offence such as driving under the influence of a drug and then think it was a worse offence for someone to take a picture of them committing the offence! Where is the sanity in that! How are the kids gonna have any better attitude if their parents think like this!

      Also agree there’s lots for kids to do in the area. In lots of other parts of Ireland there is next to nothing facilities-wise and people don’t get beaten up just for something to do!


    34. #99
      Omackeral
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      klaaaz wrote: »
      I avoid the area nowadays, too many murders

      God forgive me but I laughed.


    35. #100
      judeboy101
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      spurious wrote: »
      Looks like Lucan is the new Coolock. Anything bad happening within about 4 kms will be described as being in Lucan. Anything good is probably Leixlip.

      In fairness, leixlip has child on child murders and gang rapings, so its got its own problems.


    36. #101
      GAA Beo
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      Theres a FB page called Lucan Life saying they are having a March against Violence on Saturday 12pm. Page has 20k likes. They have 2 posts up, I'd post it but my copy and paste isn't working. Lists a number of incidents that have taken place.


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