Is anybody mourning the loss of Manly /Womanly arts?

Tell me how · 29-12-2018 02:03PM

Agricola wrote: »

Growing up, my Dad was a hugely practical man. I never remember any job at home requiring the services of a tradesman. He added plug sockets around the house, fixed any heating/plumbing related problems, built a concrete block garage and wired it himself, put new engines/gearboxes in cars in said garage, the list is endless. He served his time as a mechanic but the rest was self taught.

The area in bold has changed largely because of regulation reasons. There are frequent advertisements pointing out that electrical work must be completed by RECI registered contractors. It is the same with gas boilers.

Has affected things for electricians who might not be registered (due to cost) as they are working elsewhere from even doing jobs at the weekend.

scarepanda · 29-12-2018 02:04PM

My skill set would be middle of the road, depending on the area, I've thought myself a good bit over the last few years. One of my new years resolutions last year was to do more DIY stuff myself and not rely on my husband or dad to do it for me, although there were some stuff I needed guidance on.

I feel very strongly that we will teach our children a wide range of skills regardless of their gender. I hate that I can't do X,y or z because I was never thought it because I'm a girl. My parents would be quite skilled, but for a variety of reasons didn't pass many of those skills onto me. I don't want my daughter or any future children to see me not being able to do simple stuff just because of my gender.

Sardonicat · 29-12-2018 02:05PM

Odelay wrote: »

sk8erboii wrote: »

Whoa. So the previous generation are saints who cant be blamed for raising the new one incorrectly?

I see what you’re at.

Dont worry, schools will be back soon ( I hope)

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-12-2018 02:09PM

I wouldn't mess around with water or electricity in my house

After that I'm happy to make a balls of it

sk8erboii · 29-12-2018 02:12PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Dont worry, schools will be back soon ( I hope)

Masters mate. Im free to come in or not at all whenever

biko · 29-12-2018 02:13PM

A power outage of 2 weeks or so will weed out the weakest people. Mainly in the cities.

batgoat · 29-12-2018 02:22PM

biko wrote: »

A power outage of 2 weeks or so will weed out the weakest people. Mainly in the cities.

One of the biggest hit in such a scenario is the elderly, infirm and those who for medical reasons need electricity, heating and hospitals getting knocked out(would have to rely on generators. Nobody is becoming a hunter gatherer in such a scenario. Just the vulnerable get hit.

Sardonicat · 29-12-2018 02:22PM

sk8erboii wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

Dont worry, schools will be back soon ( I hope)

Masters mate. Im free to come in or not at all whenever

A Masters in Trolling. 2.2

Sardonicat · 29-12-2018 02:24PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I wouldn't mess around with water or electricity in my house

After that I'm happy to make a balls of it

Yeah, but you'd know which switch had tripped in a fuse box though.

sk8erboii · 29-12-2018 02:24PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

A Masters in Trolling. 2.2

Haha im not even trolling wtf?

Sardonicat · 29-12-2018 02:26PM

sk8erboii wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

A Masters in Trolling. 2.2

Haha im not even trolling wtf?

See, you'd get a better mark if you worked on being less obvious. At this rate you'll be lucky to get a third.

pixbyjohn · 29-12-2018 02:28PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Moulded plugs that you can't open to change the fuse. Has to be chucked and a new lead with plug ordered and paid for.

Cut the moulded plug off the cable and buy just a plug and fit it, simple

sk8erboii · 29-12-2018 02:29PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

See, you'd get a better mark if you worked on being less obvious. At this rate you'll be lucky to get a third.

A third what?
Im so confused rn lol

Radiant Cool Crazy Nightmare · 29-12-2018 02:29PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I wouldn't mess around with water or electricity in my house

After that I'm happy to make a balls of it

Same, I'm lucky enough that I've mates who are plumbers and sparks so any work needing doing I leave to them. Bar change a lightbulb or a fuse I'd be calling in the spark and I don't go near the water at all.

OhHiMark · 29-12-2018 02:32PM

hightower1 wrote: »

I'm actually mouthing "What?" at my monitor here reading some of these examples, like seriously ... a fully grown adult was going to hire someone to assemble flat pack furniture?

Although in saying that, I'm 33, my partner is 25 - went to light a fire last night and she didn't have a notion of how to go about it. Was sorta amazed as it was kind of second nature to me. I just thought "It's a fire, we mastered making these things a LONG time ago, heck, we have a whole sector of employment dedicated to putting this stuff out!"

I'm sure she could have managed to set the couch on fire. It's controlled fire that she had the problem with.

29-12-2018 02:38PM

I went to a technical school. For the first 3 years we all did woodwork, metalwork and technical drawing. Those of us who wanted to pursue an academic career could choose to drop these subjects after 3rd year in favour of French, Home economics, or the science subjects for example.

Now that I mentioned it, Home economics and first aid should be mandatory subjects for a few years at least at second level.

Upon reflection, anyone who chose to stay with the technical subjects plus Building Construction and Business Organisation, have done very well for themselves.

DanMurphy · 29-12-2018 02:39PM

biko wrote: »

A power outage of 2 weeks or so will weed out the weakest people. Mainly in the cities.

We are only a 2 week power strike away from the 1950s.

A woman interviewed on radio a few years ago -

Interviewer - So you bake all your own bread Mary?

Mary - Yes, and have done now for many years.

Interviewer - And does your married daughter bake?

Mary- I thought her all I know but, no, Vera's too lazy to bake...and if she ever has kids, they'll probably be to lazy to ate it !

batgoat · 29-12-2018 02:44PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I went to a technical school. For the first 3 years we all did woodwork, metalwork and technical drawing. Those of us who wanted to pursue an academic career could choose to drop these subjects after 3rd year in favour of French, Home economics, or the science subjects for example.

Now that I mentioned it, Home economics and first aid should be mandatory subjects for a few years at least at second level.

Upon reflection, anyone who chose to stay with the technical subjects plus Building Construction and Business Organisation, have done very well for themselves.

Home economics is so useful in the long run.

Sardonicat · 29-12-2018 02:50PM

sk8erboii wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

See, you'd get a better mark if you worked on being less obvious. At this rate you'll be lucky to get a third.

A third what?
Im so confused rn lol

I think you need to check back in with your educational institution if you don't know what a third is.

Meleftone · 29-12-2018 02:50PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUHgGK-tImY

Sardonicat · 29-12-2018 02:52PM

pixbyjohn wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

Moulded plugs that you can't open to change the fuse. Has to be chucked and a new lead with plug ordered and paid for.

Cut the moulded plug off the cable and buy just a plug and fit it, simple

Can't do that with the really thin leads without damaging the wires .

sk8erboii · 29-12-2018 02:55PM

Sardonicat wrote: »

I think you need to check back in with your educational institution if you don't know what a third is.

? Whats wrong with engineering in UCD?

Sky King · 29-12-2018 03:17PM

There's immense satisfaction in taking on a task slightly out of your comfort zone and completing it satisfactorily.

IMMENSE!

blade1 · 29-12-2018 03:26PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Same lady uses a window cleaner because she or her husband don't know how to do it right (her words).

This guy?

Wibbs · 29-12-2018 05:43PM

Electrical stuff I"d be cautious about, other than changing plugs, checking trip switches and simple stuff like that. Water is straightforward enough and can't kill you with a touch. I've swapped out taps and the like and with a mate plumbed a bathroom, including jacks and shower. Tiled it too. A few years back I repaired a boiler too. The fan died in it. Simple job, got said fan from the UK from an official agent and even with the exchange rate it was a third of the price they wanted here(plus labour to fit it).

A trained guy will be faster of course(if they decide to be), but this stuff is hardly rocket surgery. Plus I've had problems with officially registered and trained guys in the past. Never mind prices which are usually well padded out with the Paddy Tax™ and not showing up when arranged, but actually ripping me off and/or screwing up the job. A good plumber, sparks etc are worth their weight in gold, but finding one can be difficult and price is near zero guarantee of ability or results. Indeed I have found the pricier are often the worst of them.

Having watched the same do home improvements with neighbours and relatives and the slow progress and minor to major screwups and mad costs, I'd personally do as much as I could myself with the help of mates who know their stuff.

Filmer Paradise · 29-12-2018 06:57PM

Sky King wrote: »

There's immense satisfaction in taking on a task slightly out of your comfort zone and completing it satisfactorily.

IMMENSE!

There sure is.

As said before the internet is a godsend to home DIYers.

I've fixed many an appliance around the house with the aid of You Tube videos.

Church on Tuesday · 29-12-2018 07:31PM

I've a mate who doesn't know how to make a proper fire.

He just gets one of those firelog things, lights it, and lets it burn out.

NSAman · 30-12-2018 08:36AM

It is absolutely about your parents, in my opinion.

I remember coming home from school when I was about 6, mother had a lump hammer and was knocking down a wall to make a room bigger. Father arrived home quite a few hours later and she had knocked down a load bearing wall, he freaked,,,,,finding mates with RSJs at 11pm was not easy. BUT, they worked together to sort the problem out.

There is literally nothing at this stage that I would not do... if I had time. In my own house, I have painted, changed every light fixture (LED saves money) installed plugs, changed bathrooms, stripped wooden floors, laid new flooring,built retaining walls in the garden, etc...etc..all at night time after work or during the weekends. It has taken 5 years to get the house to a nice comfortable standard. My neighbours think I am crazy as there are “people who do that for us”....

It always amazes me how some kids have to be shown basic things / life skills.

We had a 15 year old transition school kid in for work experience one year, he was told to make the tea. No kidding... I went into our little canteen here and all I heard was “owww”...”Ouch”... he had six mugs out, each with a tea bag and was holding the tea bag at the side of the mug and pouring boiling water over the bag...he had never made tea before.

Last year, we had a medical student working in the summer for us. Internship. It was a busy period in the office and the new floors were looking rather grubby so he was given the job of cleaning them. First of all, he used dish soap. Secondly, there was so much water on the floors it was a hazard. He had never cleaned floors before age... 21.....

Basic skills in life should be taught to everyone. Parents are not doing their kids any favors by taking care of everything.

Graces7 · 30-12-2018 09:16AM

Larbre34 wrote: »

I don't think I'd include baiting/hunting etc, but this lack of practical skills in the younger generation is a noted issue.

Its a function of the last 100 years, our great-grandparents could stretch every penny, wasted nothing, mended everything. Our grandparents could do most of that but were better educated and had more ambitious jobs. Our parents grew up in a convenience age, where services were a huge business, but still largely retained the learned skills they saw in their parents. But when it comes to us and even moreso our kids, in the western world, we'd be useless if a major disaster befell us.

Most of you would indeed be useless, You would rely on us older ones who still have all the skills as i do out here. maybe I should run summer schools... out here it is do or do without.

Graces7 · 30-12-2018 09:17AM

ZX7R wrote: »

Neighbors called to me Christmas morning asking me to build there daughters doll house I kid you not.
Both a very well Educated extremely good jobs.
I am amazed that they can tie a shoe lace

since they invented velcro they don';t even need to do that

Is anybody mourning the loss of Manly /Womanly arts?

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