Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

bangkok wrote: »

Its only until the summer and who knows, imagine he got us top 4!!

Imagine if he fails spectacularly and United slide further down the table and finish in the bottom half?

Very risky appointment. Someone with more experience should have been hired.

I'm happy enough with Ole in the interim role , if nothing else it'll give the team and fans a little bit of a lift in what's been a dire couple of month's , Mike Phelan will be a big plus as well.

Sure , he may not have experience of others but there is no point shoe horning another manager in for the sake of it , if it's Zidane or Poch and we have to wait then we have to wait and it may be worth it in the end.

Spend what's left of the season trying to play some kind of football and attempt the top 4 and I'll be happy , if we don't manage it then fine on to next season.

DOF is critical and should come in before the new manager.

Ole is a club legend , he has my full support...good luck Ole.

Ole should be given the 6 months, but he should do so on the basis of planning for next season not this.

Get Rashford, Martial, Fred, Pogba, Snachez, Bally etc on the pitch and give them a few months consecutive games. Make or break. You are either good enough for MU or they are shipped out. Or course there will be injuries etc but a core group of young players. Lukaku needs to step up and start to show that he is world class on a consistent basis.

Look at bringing up some academy players, or young players on the fringes. MU need to get a core of players that believe in the club, want to be there, want to play through the tough times to make things better. Sure you need to top players as well, but you need the core.

By the end of the season you will have at least the facts. Either they will rise to the challenge or sink. Yeah, their values will drop, but what are they really worth now anyway.

Bring the likes of Keane, Giggs, Neville, even SAF in behind the scenes to talk to the players. Explain what MU is about, what a privilege it is to play and how there is little upward options if they don't workout. MU must be prepared to take the hit as well. If Martial is found to be sh1t, then sell him to Everton of where-ever and get in someone that can. But make it clear that this is action time. The club is no longer accepting sub par players or performances.

Leroy42 wrote: »

The club is no longer accepting sub par players or performances.

I know one man who would disagree.

Its very simple. We were all told that Mourinhos out of date tactics and man management was the cause of serious under performance by a squad of highly talented footballers. He was the handbrake stopping them from displaying their true skills.

He is now gone, the handbrake has been released and regardless of who the new manager is we should now see an immediate increase in the quality of performance. I don't mean that we will win the title or CL, or dominate every game, but there will be an immediate improvement on the field as players are finally allowed to express themselves.

No ifs, no buts, no bullshit excuses, the bad man is gone and we should now be demanding the minimum expectation levels from a squad that cost half a billion euros.

I don't give a **** who the next manager is, the next 2 months is all on the players, no more excuses from neither them nor their mouthpieces.

MaceFace wrote: »

Man Utd sign a caretaker manager from the team currently second in the Norwegian division.
His only experience managing a top team was Cardiff where he lasted 30 games, winning 9, got relegated, and fired a month into the new season.

He has no experience managing top international players, and the only other well known team previously known to be interested in his services is Aston Villa.

None of this matters though because he is a Utd legend. He won Utd the Champions League. He is a nice guy.

Who or what qualifies Cardiff as a top team, and not Molde?

Molde won two league titles under OGS first reign, and he has successfully got the club back on track and challenging for the league in his second reign.
He also managed Molde into the Europa League group stages which they topped, only to lose to Seville.

But yeah, Cardiff have just regained the PL status so they must be a top team?

He played lovely football with our Youths and won the Youth Cup with them which got him a bigger job.

I would have preferred Blanc personally, but I see this as a ship steadying exercise and I'm hoping that the structures are put in place to get in a full time manager (Poch) under a DOF which will see us build a platform to refresh the squad and challenge for titles.

TitianGerm wrote: »

Jose had to go but someone with more experience would be a much safer bet in the interim.

What happens if Ole losses five or six of his first ten games? The club could just panic.

I just think it's very very risky.

But in reality at this point there is little to no difference in the club between finishing 6th, 10th, or 14th.

In my view the toxic atmosphere was damaging squad morale and confidence, which was in turn negatively impacting performance.

Jose was alienating or had alienated Pogba, DDG and Martial. Martial hasn't signed an extension, nor has De Gea. If we lose those three players how much is it going to cost to replace them?

I'm not one to support player power, far from it, but when we have a failing manager who is pushing players towards the door and throwing the rest under the bus any chance he gets, anything is better than that.

VW 1 wrote: »

But in reality at this point there is little to no difference in the club between finishing 6th, 10th, or 14th.

In my view the toxic atmosphere was damaging squad morale and confidence, which was in turn negatively impacting performance.

Jose was alienating or had alienated Pogba, DDG and Martial. Martial hasn't signed an extension, nor has De Gea. If we lose those three players how much is it going to cost to replace them?

I'm not one to support player power, far from it, but when we have a failing manager who is pushing players towards the door and throwing the rest under the bus any chance he gets, anything is better than that.

The lower down the table you finish the worse it looks to potential signings.

I don't think United could get 4th but they can definitely get EL for next year. If you finish bottom half I think it'll be very damaging.

Yes you needed a new manager but it's just hard to see why it's Ole.

bucketybuck wrote: »

I know one man who would disagree.

Its very simple. We were all told that Mourinhos out of date tactics and man management was the cause of serious under performance by a squad of highly talented footballers. He was the handbrake stopping them from displaying their true skills.

He is now gone, the handbrake has been released and regardless of who the new manager is we should now see an immediate increase in the quality of performance. I don't mean that we will win the title or CL, or dominate every game, but there will be an immediate improvement on the field as players are finally allowed to express themselves.

No ifs, no buts, no bullshit excuses, the bad man is gone and we should now be demanding the minimum expectation levels from a squad that cost half a billion euros.

I don't give a **** who the next manager is, the next 2 months is all on the players, no more excuses from neither them nor their mouthpieces.

Nice mis-represntation of what people have being saying. Yes a lot of us were critical of Jose but nobody said the players were blameless.

Many here think Jose's signings are poor and that some of them should be dropped or sold. Fred doesn't look good enough, either does Matic and the jury is out on Lindelof and Bailly, Lukaku's form has vanished. I've said Jose was right to bench Pogba.

The point was Jose's tactics was making the squad preform worse than it was, how much worse remains to be seen but parking the bus from kick off is not going to help with defenders who were not playing well. Nobody's claiming we are going to go on a winning streak back to the top four but we might see some positive attacking football and the players and atmosphere might improve around Carrington etc.

TitianGerm wrote: »

I know it's a blip and I know United can afford to pay higher wages to compensate players for taking the risk but I don't think it's silly to consider that a player might not want to take a risk of it happening again and potentially go without European football for two years.

I don't think Chelsea signed top players that year but I could be mixing up the years.

Big Sam, Pardew, Pulis, etc should have been considered before Ole as they are all quite good at steadying the ship. I wouldn't have given it to any of them but someone similar who knows the league and can get European football for next season.

If it was me I probably would have considered Wenger for the 6 months. His break from Arsenal should have helped him refocus now.

For the next manager has anyone considered AVB?

Edit: Pedro and Begovic were there big signings the summer after Jose left.

Big Sam ,Pulis .

Hahahaha ,nice try.

Adamocovic wrote: »

Nalz wrote: »

Neville disagrees

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11585357/gary-neville-says-excuse-for-paul-pogbas-tweet-after-jose-mourinhos-sacking-is-garbage

Well the photo is still on his instagram and from the addidas photo shoot with Dybala.

Suppose we will all have our own opinion on whether it was intentional or poor marketing.

It wasn't poor marketing, it was absolute genius marketing for Adidas. Guarantee it was viewed 1000 times more than it would have been if it was put up a few days before the ****storm. Knew exactly what would happen

yabadabado wrote: »

Big Sam ,Pulis .

Hahahaha ,nice try.

I seriously think you just struggle with simple reading comprehension.

Read the post properly before replying.