Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Whether Jose has failed or not with this squad remains to be seen.

If the next manager also fails, which I believe he will barring a miracle, I wonder what people will say then.

We’ll say exactly what we’re saying now ... “Why the fook is this manager 2 and a half years into his reign and either hasn’t sold or made use of any of these players. And also why hasn’t he been sacked by those idiots running the club.”

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

We badly need marquee signings in both attacking midfield and centre back.

City spent 60 million on Laporte. 50 million on Stones, Liverpool spent eleventy billion on Van Dijk, we took cheapish punts on Bailly and Lindelov that have failed. Our defence cannot build an attack, Jose has mentioned this a number of times and he is correct.

The mention of marquee signings makes me uneasy.
Pogba, Lukaku, Mikhi all fit into that category.

Di Maria and Falcao too under the previous manager.
They've all disappointed massively.

We should target the players that will make us stronger as a team. Don't need to be superstar names.

As regards the spending thing, yes we all know that City have a bigger budget to play with.

What gets overlooked all the time is that Pep has actually coached many of those signings into significantly better players. It didn't happen by magic.
Its not a simple case of just opening the cheque book.

Look at Sterling.
He was labelled a flop (understandably) in his first season at city. Now he's unrecognizable compared to 3 years ago..... one of the best attackers in the league. He's terrorizing defences.

Stones has become a much better player.

De Bruyne has adapted his game under Pep's guidance to play deeper and have a much greater influence.

Compare that to us.
Almost every player signed under Jose has stagnated or even regressed.

Why can't we coach and improve players?

The more time Jose stays, the bigger part of the problem he becomes. He himself must realise that it's just a matter of time at this stage. In his post match interview yesterday he said that United were not as good a team as Liverpool. Despite the fact that it is unequivocally true, he cannot hope to survive saying this about our fiercest rivals(remember how Moyes was torn apart for saying we should aspire to be like City). He has to go and even an interim manager would serve us better than him at this stage until whoever the next target is will be available.

The most serious problem at the club is whatever structures were put in place after Fergie and David Gill left. It really has gone to sh1t. I have no real hope that this will be fixed however, so the most realistic thing we can hope for in the short term is that they can appoint a suitable manager who can just get us playing with a bit of pride, desire and dare I hope for it, some semblance of attacking football.

At this stage, I would honestly rather even Gary Neville(and yes, I know exactly how Valencia went) take over until the summer than leave Jose in charge. The situation is completely irredeemable with him at the helm.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

We badly need marquee signings in both attacking midfield and centre back.

City spent 60 million on Laporte. 50 million on Stones, Liverpool spent eleventy billion on Van Dijk, we took cheapish punts on Bailly and Lindelov that have failed. Our defence cannot build an attack, Jose has mentioned this a number of times and he is correct.

We need a working defence, two good full backs and a centre back that can pass the ball, at the moment we are working with crumbling foundations with Ashley Young, Jones, Smalling and Valencia getting games.

lol

Marquee signings since 2014 like Di Maria,Pogba,Sanchez & even Lukaku have really worked.

Need to hire a coach with a clear identity & Director who can help get players suited.
Not just throwing money at big name players.

Chelsea got Kante for £32m at the same time we paid triple that for Pogba

Kante has two premier league winners medals Pogba does not I'd say Pogba is worth less than he cost now Kante much much more

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

We badly need marquee signings in both attacking midfield and centre back.

City spent 60 million on Laporte. 50 million on Stones, Liverpool spent eleventy billion on Van Dijk, we took cheapish punts on Bailly and Lindelov that have failed. Our defence cannot build an attack, Jose has mentioned this a number of times and he is correct.

We need a working defence, two good full backs and a centre back that can pass the ball, at the moment we are working with crumbling foundations with Ashley Young, Jones, Smalling and Valencia getting games.

And who signed them? The man is incapable of taking responsibility for anything. It's always someone else's fault.

He had individuals in his defence at other clubs that were paramount to team dynamics in positive ways here that's not the case. We don't have any players that change the team dynamics in a positive way consistently in any position bar DDG it's gonna be a bumpy ride being a united supporter for a while longer I don't remember ever hoping city win the league bar right now.