Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

Rayne Wooney · 16-12-2018 07:22PM

There are only 3 reasons Mourinho could still be in the job tomorrow morning

1. They are waiting for the smaller payoff
2. They believe he can turn it around
3. Whatever manager they want isn’t available yet

Options 1 and 2 are equally idiotic, which makes me believe it’s one of them

bangkok · 16-12-2018 07:22PM

pjohnson wrote: »

People were discussing the problems at the club.

A player who is not playing was not a problem today.

Pathetic tactics

Ohmeha · 16-12-2018 07:23PM

Building up to today and after that display I see no hope of any transformation before the next 5 years. We're still stuck in 2013/14 and the bar to catch up again is higher than then and will cost even money.

Major decisions have to made swiftly and I cannot see any progress until the inevitable is acknowledged by the powers to be by moving on from both Mourinho and Woodward and cutting our losses on the likes of Pogba & Sanchez

Econ__ · 16-12-2018 07:26PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AndyReidXI/status/1074362546864488448?s=19

Reid is just being facile.

It’s very common that a team will stutter at the basics when they have a failing manager that can’t motivate or instill a sense of purpose anymore. It’s not exclusive to smaller clubs, it can & has happened at all clubs at some point or another.

fatherted1969 · 16-12-2018 07:26PM

Too depressed to stay watching, what did he say ?

wanderer100 · 16-12-2018 07:30PM

What game was he watching

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1074366703243591680

GSPfan · 16-12-2018 07:30PM

Thought today was alright. Expected to lose by a few goals but was happy that Becker made a howler.

This won’t change anything for Jose. Some easier fixtures coming up which will see him get a few wins and draws and we’ll limp on until we are sure of finishing 6th.

Robson99 · 16-12-2018 07:31PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Oh thats just tactics. Not the players fault at all.

Turning your back everytime our keeper gets the ball and waiting for the punt down field. Full backs not getting forward. 11 players in our third of the pitch behind the ball and no press. Not wanting to play football, bringing on Fellani ahead of Mata or Pogba. This all TACTICS. This is all on Mourinho

TheDoc · 16-12-2018 07:32PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

A competent board would give a new manager a 6 month head start on things with an extra transfer window

I’m guessing that’s not how things will go

In fairness the only reason I see him still in his job because managers the board want arn't free.

While the manager needs sacking, no point replacing with someone not right or they dont want. Next appointment is crucial

RobbingBandit · 16-12-2018 07:34PM

Need an ex player in as director of football and someone with a historical connection as manager they will understand no one is bigger than the club or what it represents whomever they are if this happens they have a real battle on their hands as the board is toxic Jose needs to go as his style just doesn't suit requirements here and now and no amount of time nor money will make things work.

I hope someone Jesus dare I say it Mike Ashley included buys the club as it would be less toxic than it is now we are going to suffer for a long time otherwise while the board and owners profit on the legacy of who we used to be.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 16-12-2018 07:36PM

Econ__ wrote: »

Reid is just being facile.

It’s very common that a team will stutter at the basics when they have a failing manager that can’t motivate or instill a sense of purpose anymore. It’s not exclusive to smaller clubs, it can & has happened at all clubs at some point or another.

https://twitter.com/utdxtra/status/1074369367763288064?s=19

wanderer100 · 16-12-2018 07:36PM

Just had a look at the table there....

We're in December, nearly half way through the season and we're sitting on 26 fcuking points!!!!

20 fcuking 6 points

How on earth is Jose still in the job is beyond me!! Club is a disaster from top to bottom

GSPfan · 16-12-2018 07:37PM

wanderer100 wrote: »

Just had a look at the table there....

We're in December, nearly half way through the season and we're sitting on 26 fcuking points!!!!

20 fcuking 6 points

How on earth is Jose still in the job is beyond me!! Club is a disaster from top to bottom

Don’t forget a whopping 0 goal difference too.

RobbingBandit · 16-12-2018 07:38PM

Blind scored hattrick for Ajax Mkhitaryan scored 2 in vain for Arsenal foolish sales and swaps

Ninthlife · 16-12-2018 07:39PM

Very simply the players are just not good enough

De Gea: bought by Ferguson
Smalling: bought by Ferguson
Jones: bought by Ferguson
Young: bought by Ferguson
Valencia: bought by Ferguson
Fellaini: bought by Moyes
Mata bought bh Moyes
Rojo: bought by Van Gaal
Darmian bought by Van Gaal
Herrera: bought by Moyes/Van Gaal
Rashford: brought in by Van Gaal
Lingard: brought in by Van Gaal

12 players all still getting in a starting 11 that were acquired when Utd were successful and after Ferguson era. All have failed the past 2 managers and current one yet are stil at the club. Remember 2 of those were bought as attacking wingers and are now starting full backs.

And this isnt including Joses players.

Whole team needs to be changed

Quandary · 16-12-2018 07:41PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Next appointment is crucial

This exact line has been uttered by so many people ao many times since Fergie retired.

3 failed managerial appointments so far. Appointing the right manager now goes hand in hand with making the right football structural changes at the club.

Personally speaking, I have no confidence that what needs to happen will happen.

The future of this football club is very bleak indeed.

bangkok · 16-12-2018 07:42PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/utdxtra/status/1074369367763288064?s=19

Lukaku is very poor. Not good enough to be man utd no1 striker

bryangiggsy · 16-12-2018 07:43PM

Another pathetic performance. When the camera panned on Fergie and Edwards looking so pissed and then on Woodward and Charlton .... I can only hope he way saying Mourinho is gone in the morning . I have never seen it so bad and I’m supporting Utd since 1982 We need an up and coming manager with a proven record who plays football to come in. Look at Arsenal this year ... a team reborn ... Chelsea ... and even though it will never happen even Klopp who has got an average bunch of players with the exception of Salah and Mane to were they are today ...

Drumpot · 16-12-2018 07:44PM

GSPfan wrote: »

Thought today was alright. Expected to lose by a few goals but was happy that Becker made a howler.

This won’t change anything for Jose. Some easier fixtures coming up which will see him get a few wins and draws and we’ll limp on until we are sure of finishing 6th.

I don’t see how he can remain on much longer because it doesn’t look like the squad is responding to him. Tactics are not the problem, I wish people would give that a rest. The team is bereft of confidence and completely unsettled , it doesn’t matter what the manager does, he doesn’t look to be able to turn things around. Damage is done and I don’t see how he can fix this mess.

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 07:53PM

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

There are only 3 reasons Mourinho could still be in the job tomorrow morning

1. They are waiting for the smaller payoff
2. They believe he can turn it around
3. Whatever manager they want isn’t available yet

Options 1 and 2 are equally idiotic, which makes me believe it’s one of them

It could be a combination of 1 and 3. It's possible the manager they want isn't willing to leave his current club until the summer.

Poch and Zidane aside, who are the realistic candidates? Ancelotti?

MD1990 · 16-12-2018 07:56PM

Quandary wrote: »

This exact line has been uttered by so many people ao many times since Fergie retired.

3 failed managerial appointments so far. Appointing the right manager now goes hand in hand with making the right football structural changes at the club.

Personally speaking, I have no confidence that what needs to happen will happen.

The future of this football club is very bleak indeed.

I hope your right but I can't see it.

Man Utd are the richest club in the world they will eventually get a good DoF & a coach.

Econ__ · 16-12-2018 07:58PM

Drumpot wrote: »

I don’t see how he can remain on much longer because it doesn’t look like the squad is responding to him. Tactics are not the problem, I wish people would give that a rest. The team is bereft of confidence and completely unsettled , it doesn’t matter what the manager does, he doesn’t look to be able to turn things around. Damage is done and I don’t see how he can fix this mess.

Finally you are now seeing what some of us saw many months ago.

Trigger · 16-12-2018 08:00PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

It could be a combination of 1 and 3. It's possible the manager they want isn't willing to leave his current club until the summer.

Poch and Zidane aside, who are the realistic candidates? Ancelotti?

I'd actually take Blanc as an interim till the summer with a view of a short term contract after 2 years or so.

Jardim is available to start tomorrow

doc_17 · 16-12-2018 08:00PM

José should be toast lads. Can’t understand why Utd are are standing for that.

Father Hernandez · 16-12-2018 08:00PM

I’d like to see Laurent Blanc given the opportunity if José was to go. Bring him in to steady the ship until the end of the season allowing the hierarchy proper time to focus on a longer term replacement.

If Blanc was to perform in that time, why not give to him. He’s an ex player under SAF who knows the United way, importantly he’s a leader, won trophies as a manager and managed France through a tough time at international level.

He’d be able to attract top quality players IMO & has prev history of playing attractive attacking football based on the philosophies he learned at Barca & United. We’d have a very realistic chance of getting him too

All depends on Mourinho leaving of course...

Your Airbag · 16-12-2018 08:03PM

Econ__ wrote: »

Finally you are now seeing what some of us saw many months ago.

He just said tactics are not the problem. He has a way to go yet.

fatherted1969 · 16-12-2018 08:04PM

It's not as bad as it looks, of that I'm certain. Players are completely shot of confidence at the moment. They are way better than we're witnessing. Change needs to happen though and it needs to happen now to have any sort of a chance to claw anything out of this season

Econ__ · 16-12-2018 08:05PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

He just said tactics are not the problem. He has a way to go yet.

Oh I have no doubt that he's still confused as to why, but recognising that he needs to go & there's no way back is at least a start.

16-12-2018 08:05PM

"In Hong Kong, you'd already be dead."

It's all fúcking Lethal Weapon 4 again.

LiamoSail · 16-12-2018 08:06PM

astradave wrote: »

I'd actually take Blanc as an interim till the summer with a view of a short term contract after 2 years or so.

Jardim is available to start tomorrow

Can they speak English?

I assumed Mourinho had a few years left on his contract, but apparenty it's only until 2020. Sacking him wouldn't cost a fortune

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

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