Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

Sand wrote: »

Which fans (apart from the neutrals) are supporting Mourinho as Man United manager? Even you claim that Mourinho has to be sacked if I understand your position correctly. The only faction that views Mourinho in a somewhat favourable light are the auld lads who think military conscription ought to be reintroduced and the only respectable haircut is a short back and sides. There is a grim loyalty to the merits of hardship, suffering and misery.

If draws against Crystal Palace, Southampton, Wolves and defeats against Brighton and West Ham aren't enough to disabuse them of their faith in the martinet methods of Mourinho, then a defeat to the leaders of the Premier League is hardly going to be an issue. The excuses are already built in.

Mourinho is here for the duration, until whatever calculations the board employs finally align with reality. While Mourinho is the most pressing and immediate problem for results, the board is incredibly lethargic when it comes to recognising the manager has failed and needs to be replaced. They seem content to write off entire seasons, when more active decisions makers could have nipped this trainwreak in the bud either in the summer or at least in either of the international breaks. The season could still have been arguably rescued, with a new manager able to evaluate the squad and achieve a top 4 finish.

I’ve got splinters from my position on Mourinho. I don’t see it as black and white as you suggest and don’t feel strongly about him remaining or being sacked. Perhaps it’s an apathetic response to a club that I don’t think is going anywhere fast with any manager while it’s such a sh*theap.

I’m not looking for him to be sacked but I’m not sure how things can go on the way they are. If the board aren’t going to support him in January like they haven’t in other football matters over the last 5 months then I don’t see what good it is that he is kept as manager.

I actually think good can come from this season if the w*nkers at the top have been shocked into change. Whether you like or hate him, Jose has shaken the club and no player can be sitting as comfortable in mediocrity like they had been under Moyes or LVG. Woodward also prob got a bit of a shock and I don’t see how that’s a bad thing if he fecks off back to flogging the club to noodle companies in Asia and we get proper football people into bigger positions.

If the Glazers run united like they do their American football team (which so far it looks like they have) then sacking Jose could actually make things worse. The presumption has always been that sacking him will make things better cause he’s the cancer and some other manager is just the tonic we need. Maybe we needed a world class manager like Jose to f*ck sh*# up and challange the failed club structure and already under performing squad and signings.

As I said, I’m not sure what’s the best thing right now but I don’t necessarily think our misery ends with Jose leaving. I hope I am proven wrong but I don’t trust the powers that be to make the call the first team needs so whether Jose stays or goes I think they aren’t doing it for football reasons which means nothing has changed. It will be a moving around the deck chairs, maybe nicer football but top 4 and the odd minor cup win will be our ambitions.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Zlatan is a Jose man

If the club back him and he wants it then fine.

But if the club plan on moving on from Jose or are not sure of the future then they should consider how bringing in Zlatan would impact the future plans of Lukaku, Martial and Rashford.

You can tell them to suck it up, be professional, but the club and mamagent showing such an obvious lack of faith would be a blow, imo, and for a short term (couple of months) gamble that might achieve nothing.

I agree to a degree. It’s once again you back or sack Jose, I want the owners to pick a side and support it. Looks like they don’t know what to do and are just hoping everything sorts itself out somehow.

Personally I don’t see how Pogba and Jose remain after January. They are incompatible and there looks to be no salvaging anything. Doesnt Matter whose fault anybody thinks it is, it’s clear Pogba won’t play for Jose and Jose has given up trying to work with him. So one of them needs to go to give the other a chance to salvage something from the season. We all have our sides on that but I think retaining both after January just guarantees a continuation of what we have gotten this season.

He would definitely not be an answer to the problems at the club at the minute. But there was certainly a better feeling about the club when he was there. You actually seen players smiling and enjoying the football on the pitch, now they look as if the 90 minutes cant go quickly enough . He gave a sense of comradary when he was on the pitch.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Implication being he was the reason for that? Don't agree. Jose wasn't as consistently negative and down on all the players. This season jose's attitude has been a disgrace.

Maybe. But a player like him is great to have around a club. I remember being at old Trafford's and ibra started to warm up to come on, you could hear the noise increasing and the sense of something great was about to happen. King Eric had the same effect. Jose is by a mile not the only problem at the club at the minute as I said ibra will not solve this but might bring a small spark of something back into the team.