Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

Mitch Connor · 14-12-2018 11:02AM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/13/jose-mourinho-increasingly-angry-manchester-united-lack-transfer/

Jose Mourinho, the Manchester United manager, is on a fresh collision course with executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward over transfers as he grows increasingly angry about a lack of activity.

More in the article.

And so it begins.... Jose vs Woodward in the press. If the club don't want to back Jose, again, in the transfer market, they really do need to sack him. They either back his judgement or they don't. They either believe the players are the problem or he is.

bangkok · 14-12-2018 11:17AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/13/jose-mourinho-increasingly-angry-manchester-united-lack-transfer/

More in the article.

And so it begins.... Jose vs Woodward in the press. If the club don't want to back Jose, again, in the transfer market, they really do need to sack him. They either back his judgement or they don't. They either believe the players are the problem or he is.

Or they are stringing him along as the manager they want (poch) is not available at this time..

Your Airbag · 14-12-2018 11:31AM

I wouldn't give Jose another penny for transfers based on how the players he bought have preformed and how he's treated them.

Just sack him and get it over and done with.

yourdeadwright · 14-12-2018 11:40AM

So who are guys expecting to start on Sunday ?
would I be right in saying there are a few injuries ?

As a Liverpool fan I think Salah will play through the middle, probably due to the great job Young has done on him in the past ,

I think you lot will target our right hand side of defence, Lovren and Milner look most likely to play as the right sided Cb and right full,

pjohnson · 14-12-2018 12:33PM

bangkok wrote: »

Or they are stringing him along as the manager they want (poch) is not available at this time..

Which would show just how mindnumbingly stupid they are.

Mitch Connor · 14-12-2018 12:34PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

So who are guys expecting to start on Sunday ?
would I be right in saying there are a few injuries ?

As a Liverpool fan I think Salah will play through the middle, probably due to the great job Young has done on him in the past ,

I think you lot will target our right hand side of defence, Lovren and Milner look most likely to play as the right sided Cb and right full,

I expect a full on park the bus job. Not sure on injuries.

De Gea

Bailly--Jones--Rojo
Dalot

Shaw

Matic----Fellaini
Lingard

Rashford

Lukaku.

I expect we are going to get battered, but fook knows with this side. We could jam our way to a win like vs Juve.

Whatsisname · 14-12-2018 12:35PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I expect a full on park the bus job. Not sure on injuries.
De Gea
Bailly--Jones--Rojo
Dalot
Shaw
Matic----Fellaini
Lingard
Rashford
Lukaku.

I expect we are going to get battered, but fook knows with this side. We could jam our way to a win like vs Juve.

I'll actually be sick if Phil ****in Jones starts.

Mitch Connor · 14-12-2018 12:36PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Which would show just how mindnumbingly stupid they are.

Plus, it only makes any sense if they KNOW they will get Poch in the summer.

If we continue as we are, we'll certainly not make the CL - will Poch want to come? will he want to come enough to force Spur's hand? Will Woodward be able to negotiate getting him from Spurs?

Mitch Connor · 14-12-2018 12:37PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

I'll actually be sick if Phil ****in Jones starts.

Lindelof out. Smalling maybe out injured too - know he missed midweek through injury. Suppose we couldnt be surprised if Jose decides to put McTominay in there.

14-12-2018 12:44PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

I'll actually be sick if Phil ****in Jones starts.

United were far better in defense last season when Jones and Bailly was the first choice pairing.

yourdeadwright · 14-12-2018 12:46PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I expect a full on park the bus job. Not sure on injuries.
De Gea
Bailly--Jones--Rojo
Dalot
Shaw
Matic----Fellaini
Lingard
Rashford
Lukaku.

I expect we are going to get battered, but fook knows with this side. We could jam our way to a win like vs Juve.

Didn't Jose say yesterday Rojo would not be available and named 3 starters one was Young ?

Mitch Connor · 14-12-2018 12:50PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Didn't Jose say yesterday Rojo would not be available and named 3 starters one was Young ?

He could well have done. I've near given up on listening to anything coming out of the club.

bangkok · 14-12-2018 12:51PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I expect a full on park the bus job. Not sure on injuries.
De Gea
Bailly--Jones--Rojo
Dalot
Shaw
Matic----Fellaini
Lingard
Rashford
Lukaku.

I expect we are going to get battered, but fook knows with this side. We could jam our way to a win like vs Juve.

Dont think rojo will be anywhere near it. He is also useless. Id say young will start.
Mata should also start

yourdeadwright · 14-12-2018 12:55PM

bangkok wrote: »

Dont think rojo will be anywhere near it. He is also useless. Id say young will start

Ye I can't see him or Dalot starting , Full backs will surely be Shaw and Young ,

Mitch Connor · 14-12-2018 12:55PM

bangkok wrote: »

Dont think rojo will be anywhere near it. He is also useless. Id say young will start

Will be interesting to see if we go with 4 or 5 at the back.

What I would like to see is:

De Gea
Dalot---Whoever-Doesn't matter-Shaw

Matic

Herrera--Mata
--Lingard

Rashford

Martial

However, if Shaw is fit then Young will start over Dalot at RB, otherwise Young at LB.
Fellaini will also start - whether in for Herrera (with Pogba - I reckon he will start) or Mata.
Lukaku will start up top as well - Rashford on the left, Martial on the bench.

pjohnson · 14-12-2018 01:00PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Plus, it only makes any sense if they KNOW they will get Poch in the summer.

If we continue as we are, we'll certainly not make the CL - will Poch want to come? will he want to come enough to force Spur's hand? Will Woodward be able to negotiate getting him from Spurs?

Imagine most of those answeres will be no. Honestly he'd be insane to leave Spurs for this dumpsterfire unless he had cast iron guarantees that if unmet would let him walk.

Woodward tryna negotiate with Levy would be hilarious at least.

14-12-2018 02:38PM

Going off physioroon

Sanchez and Linderof are out 100%

And Rojo, McTominay, Smalling, Dalot, Martial, Darmian and Shaw are all doubtfull

fatherted1969 · 14-12-2018 02:39PM

bassy wrote: »

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

He'll be getting paid to talk about United and Liverpool not for managing them.

i was on about him getting paid as a manager/assistant in he,s failures not on about punditry.

He's had some success as a manager no ??

Trigger · 14-12-2018 02:55PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

He's had some success as a manager no ??

I think people like to skirt over his decent showing at Sunderland to get them promotion, to serve agendas when it comes to Keano, he's not a failed manager as such, more an average one

Liam McPoyle · 14-12-2018 02:58PM

Keano is no better or worse than any of the journey men managers like Hughes or Allardyce. He just doesn't do the politics of the game as well as others.

14-12-2018 03:10PM

I think Keane would actually do well enough at a high level team where players would be able to play at his old level but will never get the experience of managing at that level so it's a bit moot.

Your Airbag · 14-12-2018 04:28PM

More gas talk

Jose Mourinho says this Manchester United team is "far" from being in his image. "A football team is about more than that. (money spent). It is like a house, not just about buying new furniture. You have to spend money on the house, then you spend money on the best furniture."

Jose wants the "best furniture", its seems he forgotten the house is filled with furniture that he picked out. Whats he trying to say here exactly? is it basically we need to buy a new first team again, the one I bought didn't work out so let me bring that total spend up to 1bn and replace all my previous signings?

J. Marston · 14-12-2018 04:36PM

Mourinho Construction Inc. and all his labourers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUHunfH0XbI

fatherted1969 · 14-12-2018 05:06PM

astradave wrote: »

fatherted1969 wrote: »

He's had some success as a manager no ??

I think people like to skirt over his decent showing at Sunderland to get them promotion, to serve agendas when it comes to Keano, he's not a failed manager as such, more an average one

If you want sitting on the fence punditry then Roy Keane isn't your man. Himself and Scholes namely are openly critical of our team for the last while and I see nothing wrong with that. I'd much prefer honesty to the ****e I usually have to witness on sky sports

Relikk · 14-12-2018 05:22PM

Liam O wrote: »

United were far better in defense last season when Jones and Bailly was the first choice pairing.

So the stats said. But in reality the defence was still very leaky and the fact Utd conceded so few goals was more down to the oppositions inability to take their chances, and De Gea.

yourdeadwright · 14-12-2018 05:30PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

If you want sitting on the fence punditry then Roy Keane isn't your man. Himself and Scholes namely are openly critical of our team for the last while and I see nothing wrong with that. I'd much prefer honesty to the ****e I usually have to witness on sky sports

I have to agree on Monday night football they done a combined Liverpool/united 11 and Neville had four united players which is fair enough but two of which where Pogba and Bailly two who currently can't get into the United team ,

When questioned on how the 2 of them where in the team he didn't really have an answer , I think you'd have to be a bit stupid if you don't realise he was told by Sky to have more United players in , there is no way they can promote the game the weekend how they want if there faces on Sky are saying only 2 united players get in the team,

Sky are not biased they report on where the money is ,
They make more money when United are playing well due to there huge fan base , its well documented in recent years they have lost subscription when United are struggling going nto the new Year and because of this you get pundits who can't say how they really feel Its not by chance that Keane is never on there

DM_7 · 14-12-2018 06:23PM

Even Jose's talk today generated little talk here. I know some have issues with the place but speaking for myself I can't remember feeling no sense of nerves or excitment for a United v Liverpool game. Just expecting nothing good to happen. Even a good result would just be like 'grand', means nothing for the season really.

RobbingBandit · 14-12-2018 08:13PM

Ibra not signing for AC Milan could we convince him to come back for a few months and dig us out of this hole

14-12-2018 09:40PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

. We could jam our way to a win like vs Juve.

That was some amazing jam

Drumpot · 14-12-2018 09:50PM

DM_7 wrote: »

Even Jose's talk today generated little talk here.

I’d of thought that’s not a bad thing.

There isn’t much for united fans to discuss that hasn’t been already said. Different people will interpret what he says depending on what they think of him. You could copy and paste most of the arguments we have all had here over the season. I’m not really sure why people get so wound up about his interviews TBH.

So let’s say united lose heavily against pool. Will fans who have been supporting him turn against him ? Maybe, but if they don’t, I’m not sure he will be sacked. Who can replace him mid season? Is there a benefit to an interim manager for the year? Maybe, but are the owners going to give Jose a massive payoff and hire a good manager for half a season?

So if Jose stays or not , why wouldn’t they sign a top class defender in January (if rumors are true). The club doesn’t need the manager to want a player to sign him and I doubt Jose would be unhappy actually getting a top quality defender. So why not sign a top defender and be able to offer a potential new manager a better/stronger squad in the summer?

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

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