Who'd live in a house like this? Part 2

HeidiHeidi · 10-12-2018 12:23am

Deleted User wrote: »

The asking price is just an expectation, if there's a lot of interest, buyers can outbid eachother and the price goes up and none the sellers have to drop the price until someone buys, or take it off the maket.

My guess is the former in this case.

Graces7 · 10-12-2018 7:46am

And if your life is lacking colour? Cavan has the ideal home...

https://www.daft.ie/cavan/houses-for-sale/virginia/cliffin-virginia-cavan-1807502/

Graces7 · 10-12-2018 7:49am

Thargor wrote: »

No but running a dehumidifier and a bit of basic DIY will, then repaint, still yet to see anyone post what they think the price should be for a house that size in that location should be...

That damp means leaks. Rebuilding needed.

10-12-2018 10:05am

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

My guess is the former in this case.

You're probably right, someone will buy it slap on a bit of paint and fill it with bunk beds.

Thargor · 10-12-2018 10:18am

Graces7 wrote: »

That damp means leaks. Rebuilding needed.

Lol, wrong.

10-12-2018 10:26am

Thargor wrote: »

Lol, wrong.

Is it your place, you really seem to like it.

Tordelback · 10-12-2018 10:31am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The asking price is just an expectation, if there's a lot of interest, buyers can outbid eachother and the price goes up and none the sellers have to drop the price until someone buys, or take it off the maket.

I'd be surprised if it didn't exceed that asking price. If I had the (any!) dosh I'd be tempted - so much room to play with, just off the South Circular!

fritzelly · 10-12-2018 11:10am

Graces7 wrote: »

And if your life is lacking colour? Cavan has the ideal home...

https://www.daft.ie/cavan/houses-for-sale/virginia/cliffin-virginia-cavan-1807502/

Woodies must have had a very good sale on all their odd pots of paint and wallpaper rolls.

10-12-2018 4:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The very fact that such a grotty house, that the best thing to do with would be to bulldoze and rebuild is priced at half a million euros. Really brings into focus the lack of affordable housing there is in this country.

Of course, the beneficiaries of these high prices are sitting pretty, while others are paying hundreds a month for a bunk bed in a shared house in the city due to the lack of affordable accommodation.
I wonder how many bunk beds a slumlord could fit into that garage.

Have you viewed the house or had a survey done on it? Are you a house builder? What puts you in position to say the best thing for it is to be knocked down? Do you think a 'slumlord' is going to go through that effort?

I really think you're totally missing the point of why it's valued as it is. Location, potential, the land, the size, etc. It being grotty is neither here nor there, you can fix that. Nobody buys a house for the decor.

ButtersSuki · 10-12-2018 4:52pm

retalivity wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/dublin-8/19-greenville-avenue-dublin-8-dublin-1937257/

Wood panelled room - check
Crazy retro style bathroom design - check
carpets & damp everywhere - check check check

I can't understand the hate for this. This is a developer's dream and there is so much potential with this that I'd be astonished if it sells for asking.

You could remodel, revamp and rent in a very short period of time

Or, given the site space, you could do the above and simultaneously apply for planning to get a second dwelling on that site, the A and B property address types.

Or knock/amend the existing property and add property No. 2 on the site.

I'd imagine it would be difficult (given planning laws) to fully knock the existing property but that's also an option I guess.

If I had the capital right now I would give that site serious consideration.

Deebles McBeebles · 10-12-2018 5:12pm

Remember when houses were bought by owner occupiers. Good times.

ButtersSuki · 10-12-2018 5:20pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Remember when houses were bought by owner occupiers. Good times.

Yes. And that was an absolutely perfect system.......:rolleyes:

Taking one of my suggestions from the last post, if someone built 2 properties on that site and sold them would you still have an objection to it?

Deebles McBeebles · 10-12-2018 5:35pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Yes. And that was an absolutely perfect system.......:rolleyes:

It worked far better than what is going on these days.....:rolleyes:

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Taking one of my suggestions from the last post, if someone built 2 properties on that site and sold them would you still have an objection to it?

No objection as long as they are bought by owner occupiers and not yet another opportunistic landlord who will fleece people for as much as possible.

10-12-2018 5:40pm

Aarav Prickly Rodeo wrote: »

Have you viewed the house or had a survey done on it? Are you a house builder? What puts you in position to say the best thing for it is to be knocked down? Do you think a 'slumlord' is going to go through that effort?

I really think you're totally missing the point of why it's valued as it is. Location, potential, the land, the size, etc. It being grotty is neither here nor there, you can fix that. Nobody buys a house for the decor.

I've built one house for what it's worth.
Because of it's "prime location" the best thing would be for an ambitious developer to come in and buy the whole street and replace them all with a couple of genuinely (not Celtic tiger poop) high quality blocks of flats for rent. Thus providing accommodation for far more families, couples & singles than the current housing on the same footprint.

ButtersSuki · 10-12-2018 5:50pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

It worked far better than what is going on these days.....:rolleyes:

No objection as long as they are bought by owner occupiers and not yet another opportunistic landlord who will fleece people for as much as possible.

Not all landlords are like this.

skooterblue2 · 10-12-2018 9:04pm

Graces7 wrote: »

And if your life is lacking colour? Cavan has the ideal home...

https://www.daft.ie/cavan/houses-for-sale/virginia/cliffin-virginia-cavan-1807502/

Ohhhh what a site for a Meth Lab!!!! No neighbours, discrete, developing forrestry, wide open fresh air. Jessie Pinkertons dream

Graces7 · 11-12-2018 10:50am

and how about this for a fixer upper?

https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/

Graces7 · 11-12-2018 10:51am

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Ohhhh what a site for a Meth Lab!!!! No neighbours, discrete, developing forrestry, wide open fresh air. Jessie Pinkertons dream

from the colour "scheme" it already has been !

Deebles McBeebles · 11-12-2018 10:56am

Graces7 wrote: »

and how about this for a fixer upper?

https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/

I quite like that one. Would need massive amounts of work though obviously.

tara73 · 11-12-2018 10:59am

Graces7 wrote: »

and how about this for a fixer upper?

https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/

100.000 for a site... most probably not allowed to demolish as it's listed...close to a million to rebuild this sh***.

woa, what a money grave..

TomSweeney · 11-12-2018 11:41am

zell12 wrote: »

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

F*cking disgusting!
There was a primetime special on this about a year ago, did anything happen to the landlord ?

are they allowed to just do this with no consequences ? surely 6 people in one room is illegal ?

Graces7 · 11-12-2018 11:49am

tara73 wrote: »

100.000 for a site... most probably not allowed to demolish as it's listed...close to a million to rebuild this sh***.

woa, what a money grave..

Somebody will snap it up and revel in the restoration.

dee75 · 11-12-2018 12:10pm

tara73 wrote: »

100.000 for a site... most probably not allowed to demolish as it's listed...close to a million to rebuild this sh***.

woa, what a money grave..

A million to rebuild? Not a chance you'd need to spend anywhere close to that. 200k would do a huge amount

tara73 · 11-12-2018 12:27pm

dee75 wrote: »

A million to rebuild? Not a chance you'd need to spend anywhere close to that. 200k would do a huge amount

yeah, dream on. Sewage system is probably completely rotten or never existed and has to be renewed for x amount of length. They don't show a map, could be somewhere remote.

Did you ever rebuild a listed building? stuff like stucco ornaments have to be rebuild. And this building seemd to have a few of them..
also doors, windows need to be rebuild like they were. do you know what such pieces cost?

good luck with 200.000€

unkel · 11-12-2018 12:54pm

200k would get you a decent 2 storey extension for your Dublin semi

Not a rebuild for a listed house like that, man!

BattleCorp · 11-12-2018 4:23pm

Graces7 wrote: »

and how about this for a fixer upper?

https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/

The sad thing about this house is that the preservation order probably means that nobody will do it up and it will just fall asunder.

That would be an absolute moneypit.

tara73 · 11-12-2018 4:32pm

Graces7 wrote: »

and how about this for a fixer upper?

https://www.daft.ie/kilkenny/houses-for-sale/castlecomer/the-laundry-house-castlecomer-kilkenny-1614500/

good lord, just read the property description in full. if your not already deterred by the photo, you will after reading that waffling.

Graces7 · 11-12-2018 4:38pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

The sad thing about this house is that the preservation order probably means that nobody will do it up and it will just fall asunder.

That would be an absolute moneypit.

There are those for whom it would be a lasting joy to restore this magnificent historic house.

Nothing sad about the preservation order. A great protection to the beauty. ,

Have a look at some of the properties on this site many of which have been lovingly and expensively restored by individuals with a great sense of Irish history

https://www.formerglory.ie/period-property-for-sale-in-ireland/

and Ashford Castle...

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/ashford-castle-reopening-after-50m-makeover-by-new-owner-1.2174627

Graces7 · 11-12-2018 4:40pm

tara73 wrote: »

good lord, just read the property description in full. if your not already deterred by the photo, you will after reading that waffling.

We differ greatly thankfully! lol

BattleCorp · 11-12-2018 4:45pm

Graces7 wrote: »

There are those for whom it would be a lasting joy to restore this magnificent historic house.

Nothing sad about the preservation order. A great protection to the beauty. ,

Have a look at some of the properties on this site many of which have been lovingly and expensively restored by individuals with a great sense of Irish history

https://www.formerglory.ie/period-property-for-sale-in-ireland/

and Ashford Castle...

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/ashford-castle-reopening-after-50m-makeover-by-new-owner-1.2174627

While I don't have any photos to prove it because I can't be arsed getting into my car but within about 5 miles of me, there must be at least 10 places let fall to ruin because of preservation orders. Some places have been beautifully restored and look fabulous but an awful lot of them tend to be too expensive to restore.

tara73 · 11-12-2018 4:57pm

Graces7 wrote: »

We differ greatly thankfully! lol

we differ greatly thankfully lol?? what do you mean...??please explain!

if you are familiar with estate agent ads you can see that this differ from the usual waffle!

Graces7 · 11-12-2018 4:59pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

While I don't have any photos to prove it because I can't be arsed getting into my car but within about 5 miles of me, there must be at least 10 places let fall to ruin because of preservation orders. Some places have been beautifully restored and look fabulous but an awful lot of them tend to be too expensive to restore.

Hey it is fine to see these things differently! It really is. Yes I disagree with knocking down heritage historical buildings that have architectural and social value...too many have been destroyed wantonly. Preservation orders are a vital protection

This particular house has a great grace and beauty in an age when this is no longer created.

I used to explore the ruins of the old workhouse at Bawnboy in Cavan, and now a group is working on some restoration there.

https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Attraction_Review-g1389184-d15092452-Reviews-The_Workhouse_Bawnboy_Ballyconnel-Bawnboy_County_Cavan.html

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-12-2018 5:00pm

tara73 wrote: »

100.000 for a site... most probably not allowed to demolish as it's listed..

if there is a faulty handbrake on a JCB anything can happen

BBFAN · 11-12-2018 9:40pm

Has everyone forgotten the title of this thread?

retalivity · 11-12-2018 11:41pm

BBFAN wrote: »

Has everyone forgotten the title of this thread?

Tbf I pissed myself laughing at this

The property being offered for sale is known as the Wandesforde Laundry House and in fairness the name gives away this property's usage. The property recently suffered fire damage, but the style and character is still clearly visible

jamesbondings · 12-12-2018 3:38am

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

if there is a faulty handbrake on a JCB anything can happen

Reminds me of a certain property in Drumcondra. Protection order on it and the owner wasn't pleased..... Bull dozer ended up going through it by mistake. Courts ordered the building to be propped up, which was done.
.. Few years later the building went on fire.... Haven't been around there in years. Wonder if it is still standing.

BattleCorp · 12-12-2018 12:13pm

We'd a local guy who wanted to knock down an old house and build a small housing estate where the old house and garden stood. He was refused planning permission. A few months later some ahem....naughty scallywags (who certainly weren't acting on the instructions of the owner..ahem.. sore throat.) burned down the house. The owner was then able to reapply for planning permission and a nice little housing estate now stands where the old house used to be.

Deebles McBeebles · 12-12-2018 12:30pm

Good old Irish ingenuity, if you can't find a loophole, make one.

skooterblue2 · 12-12-2018 11:50pm

tara73 wrote: »

100.000 for a site... most probably not allowed to demolish as it's listed...close to a million to rebuild this sh***.

woa, what a money grave..

Ask Jeremy Irons who spent 10 years and unlimited cash doing up his castle in West Cork, but he is probably registered here as tax free and claiming it back in some other form. He said it nearly broke his heart.

Who in their right mind would take that on? granted a lovely site near water but not near a major city and back water like Castlecomer. Seriously in need of architectural salvage. You couldnt piss on the site without An Bord Pleanala and An Taisce breathing down your neck.

zell12 · 13-12-2018 2:20pm

I like this :pac:
DailyMail: £250k London studio flat with kitchen in bedroom is most popular

13-12-2018 2:47pm

^^ very optimistic table for four there

tara73 · 13-12-2018 3:16pm

zell12 wrote: »

I like this :pac:
DailyMail: £250k London studio flat with kitchen in bedroom is most popular

what a bulsh**t floor plan. misleading as out of scale.

that makes 2200 pound /sft or almost 24.000,00 pound /m². mind boggles.

chewed · 13-12-2018 3:17pm

Deleted User wrote: »

^^ very optimistic table for four there

Very optimistic apartment for one!

Minnie Snuggles · 13-12-2018 3:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

^^ very optimistic table for four there

I was thinking something similar, aside from the ridiculous price tag for a "studio appartment", why the need for so much delph?

Cantona's Collars · 13-12-2018 3:47pm

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Ohhhh what a site for a Meth Lab!!!! No neighbours, discrete, developing forrestry, wide open fresh air. Jessie Pinkertons dream

Did anyone notice the John 3/17 painted on the wall behind the house or the crying chair in the shed?

Grayson · 13-12-2018 4:13pm

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Did anyone notice the John 3/17 painted on the wall behind the house or the crying chair in the shed?

I didn't. That's weird

i did notice it has a BER of G.

mikhail · 13-12-2018 4:24pm

https://www.daft.ie/tipperary/houses-for-sale/clonmel/croan-cottage-kilganey-clonmel-tipperary-1897831/

Kudos to the agent who decided that one of the key selling points of this property is "mature boundaries".

The bathroom looks like a biohazard.

The side view of the house shows the staged development, like the tiers of a depressing grey wedding cake that's fallen on its side.

The settee faces the stove so you can huddle near the only warm spot in the whole place during the winter.

skooterblue2 · 13-12-2018 4:31pm

mikhail wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/tipperary/houses-for-sale/clonmel/croan-cottage-kilganey-clonmel-tipperary-1897831/

The side view of the house shows the staged development, like the tiers of a depressing grey wedding cake that's fallen on its side.

The settee faces the stove so you can huddle near the only warm spot in the whole place during the winter.

Looks more like Miss Havishams place in Great expectations ..... only with more cheer. Its sad to think someone lived there in their final days

Deebles McBeebles · 13-12-2018 4:41pm

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Looks more like Miss Havishams place in Great expectations ..... only with more cheer. Its sad to think someone lived there in their final days

That was my first thought too. Some lonely old dear living there on her own.

Think happy thoughts, think happy thoughts.

13-12-2018 9:46pm

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

That was my first thought too. Some lonely old dear living there on her own.

Think happy thoughts, think happy thoughts.

With that huge flat screen TV, looks like the current occupier(s) could be much younger.

Who'd live in a house like this? Part 2

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