Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

Osmosis Jones · 11-12-2018 12:01AM

It's outrageous how small the margin for error is this season

garra · 11-12-2018 12:06AM

These lads are no mugs. Unbeaten in 12, tough to break down.

We will have Hendo. We need Keita. Will it be Milner, or Fabinho, or Shaqiri for the goal? For the first time we can do what the f*ck we want with our setup in midfield, with the 3 hooligans up top.

Knex* · 11-12-2018 12:14AM

https://twitter.com/George___Owen/status/1072251358668079110

Raisins · 11-12-2018 12:26AM

Ardent wrote: »

So is it just him, or are they targeting all black wealthy footballers in the same way?

There’s no wealthier more high profile black English player in the game. Neville was on sky tonight saying the racist abuse sterling got was blatant and that he tried to help him deal with it when he was an assistant. He said it was above Gaza’s and Beckham and that he’ll never get the acclaim they got because he’s black. Maybe you know better than sterling himself and people working within the game who say they see it first hand. I’m not gonna post about it again it’s an unprovable point.

Ardent · 11-12-2018 01:01AM

Raisins wrote: »

There’s no wealthier more high profile black English player in the game. Neville was on sky tonight saying the racist abuse sterling got was blatant and that he tried to help him deal with it when he was an assistant. He said it was above Gaza’s and Beckham and that he’ll never get the acclaim they got because he’s black. Maybe you know better than sterling himself and people working within the game who say they see it first hand. I’m not gonna post about it again it’s an unprovable point.

I don't want to discuss it anymore either, because I don't really care. I DO care about racism though and I accept that the game is still rife with it. And I accept that everything you wrote above is true. The incident with the banana skin recently was beyond belief and disgusting. I just don't see proof that the English media is racist as is claimed.

54and56 · 11-12-2018 01:23AM

Ardent wrote: »

If it's clear as day, please explain how those articles are racist?

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king!!

Two workmates get a decent bonus.

First guy who is a born and bred Anglo Saxon Londoner goes out celebrating in Chelsea and splashes a load of cash drinking, gambling and womanising.

Newspaper headline is "Hard working Johnny and his mates paint the town red after landing a well earned bonus."

Second guy who is a born and bred Irishman from Cavan (or Kerry, Dublin, Louth etc) goes out celebrating in Chelsea and splashes the exact same load of cash drinking, gambling and womanising.

Newspaper headline is "Drunken Irishman photographed leaving casino at 4am after a booze filled night of debauchery."

Sterling is pointing out similarly (possibly subconscious) stereotypical reporting of an almost identical story about two young footballers buying expensive houses for their mothers by journalists and they don't like being called out on it.

I say fair play to him.

Ardent · 11-12-2018 02:12AM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king!!

Two workmates get a decent bonus.

First guy who is a born and bred Anglo Saxon Londoner goes out celebrating in Chelsea and splashes a load of cash drinking, gambling and womanising.

Newspaper headline is "Hard working Johnny and his mates paint the town red after landing a well earned bonus."

Second guy who is a born and bred Irishman from Cavan (or Kerry, Dublin, Louth etc) goes out celebrating in Chelsea and splashes the exact same load of cash drinking, gambling and womanising.

Newspaper headline is "Drunken Irishman photographed leaving casino at 4am after a booze filled night of debauchery."

Sterling is pointing out similarly (possibly subconscious) stereotypical reporting of an almost identical story about two young footballers buying expensive houses for their mothers by journalists and they don't like being called out on it.

I say fair play to him.

First off, the question was about the Sterling articles.

Secondly, you can't take two articles and say they are evidence of systemic racial bias, you need a much larger sample size...

Oh f**k it, I give up.

Osmosis Jones · 11-12-2018 02:47AM

mosstin · 11-12-2018 03:30AM

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

At last, a post about football. This is an allusion to United's probable approach on Sunday, isn't it?

Grayditch · 11-12-2018 04:52AM

There's Sturridge begging for an opening.

cj maxx · 11-12-2018 07:00AM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king!!

Two workmates get a decent bonus.

First guy who is a born and bred Anglo Saxon Londoner goes out celebrating in Chelsea and splashes a load of cash drinking, gambling and womanising.

Newspaper headline is "Hard working Johnny and his mates paint the town red after landing a well earned bonus."

Second guy who is a born and bred Irishman from Cavan (or Kerry, Dublin, Louth etc) goes out celebrating in Chelsea and splashes the exact same load of cash drinking, gambling and womanising.

Newspaper headline is "Drunken Irishman photographed leaving casino at 4am after a booze filled night of debauchery."

Sterling is pointing out similarly (possibly subconscious) stereotypical reporting of an almost identical story about two young footballers buying expensive houses for their mothers by journalists and they don't like being called out on it.

I say fair play to him.

A Cavan man spending a load of cash is worthy of headline though , However unlikely !

HandsomeBob · 11-12-2018 08:08AM

Hope we overwhelm Napoli early on. Don't want to be getting into a drawn out struggle with an Ancellotti team. I am feeling positive about though and feel Salah is primed to run amok tonight.

facehugger99 · 11-12-2018 08:21AM

The wider debate around the Sterling incident had me thinking over the last couple of days.

I've brought both my young kids to a couple of Liverpool matches over the last few years. Once was in the dedicated family section and once was in the Anfield Road stand.

I've gone a good few times on my own too. Never witnessed any behaviour I thought was unacceptable. Obviously there was some fruity language in the air but noting you wouldn't hear in a gym changing room.

I don't doubt there are some Liverpool fans that are racist morons - every club no doubt harbours a few Neanderthals, but I've never witnessed it personally.

I've heard people say they would never bring their kids to a football match because of the hate and vitriol on display - what do others feel? - is it an issue at Anfield?

rob316 · 11-12-2018 08:55AM

Been to loads of matches worst I've heard is gay slurs towards players never anything racist.

It's just beyond idiotic shouting racist remarks at opposition players when half the team your support is probably full of black players. Liverpool have 6 black players in there first choice 11.

gimli2112 · 11-12-2018 09:21AM

It's not so much the racist piece that bothers me (I am not a racist) it's the total hate they have for the player. It happened to Sterling but I've seen it before with other players, fans screaming at them their hate filled faces scrunched up in utter disgust.

ERG89 · 11-12-2018 09:21AM

I'd consider tonight's game the biggest of the season so far. So many ways the match could progress depending on who scores first and when.
Bad result would be a blow going forward, we have a few big games in the second half of the season at home to other teams so I'm hoping we can make those count.
I'd love to see a well timed 10-15 minute blitz again like we did last season as holding on to a 1-0 lead will be filled with tension, for me anyway.
Expect Keita, Alexander Arnold & Mane to start tonight but maybe not Fabinho or Lovren.

gimli2112 · 11-12-2018 09:23AM

Matip played well on Saturday by all accounts. It's difficult to justify changing CBs with one who has been out a few weeks. If he starts Mingolet, Clyne and Moreno we'll know the league is the priority.

facehugger99 · 11-12-2018 10:01AM

gimli2112 wrote: »

Matip played well on Saturday by all accounts. It's difficult to justify changing CBs with one who has been out a few weeks. If he starts Mingolet, Clyne and Moreno we'll know the league is the priority.

I can pretty much 100% guarantee this won't happen.

Knex* · 11-12-2018 10:11AM

My aul fella somehow got it into his head yesterday that Klopp was going to start Moreno tonight. Had to calm him down on that one :pac:

dogbert27 · 11-12-2018 10:18AM

Sorry lads I'm still confused with this one nil win being enough.

Napoli, 9 points, W 2, D 3, L 0. Beat Liverpool 1-0 at home. GD +3.

Liverpool 6 points, W 2, D 0, L 3. GD +1.

If Liverpool win tonight 1-0 then the head to head games are equal. GD + 2 equal.

So will the 1-0 win put us through purely on winning 3 games versus 2?

TitianGerm · 11-12-2018 10:22AM

Anyone see the MNF combined 11 for the game next Sunday.

The lads included two United players who can't even get in their own team never mind a combined one.

Anyway it was

De Gea
TAA, Bailey, VVD, Robertson
Kieta, Matic, Pogba
Salah, Bobby, Mane

I don't want to say they are wrong but no way De Gea, Bailey, Matic or Pogba deserve to be in that team based on performances this season.

Ardent · 11-12-2018 10:25AM

Gonna be a tough mother****ing game tonight. Napoli will park the bus. Have to start Keita IMO.

A midfield 3 of Fab, Keita and one of either Milner or Gini. Would love see Shaqiri start in midfield but that's probably leaving us too open to the counter.

facehugger99 · 11-12-2018 10:38AM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Anyone see the MNF combined 11 for the game next Sunday.

The lads included two United players who can't even get in their own team never mind a combined one.

Anyway it was

De Gea
TAA, Bailey, VVD, Robertson
Kieta, Matic, Pogba
Salah, Bobby, Mane

I don't want to say they are wrong but no way De Gea, Bailey, Matic or Pogba deserve to be in that team based on performances this season.

It was Wijnaldum in midfield instead of Matic and Martial instead of Mane, no?

Fitz* · 11-12-2018 10:40AM

to be fair, the only one they both had was DDG, and the Gary Neville said he included Bailly & Pogba just because he wanted some Man Utd players in his team! Carragher had Matic in his team alright.

TitianGerm · 11-12-2018 10:43AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

It was Wijnaldum in midfield instead of Matic and Martial instead of Mane, no?

Not on the image I saw.

11-12-2018 10:46AM

garra wrote: »

...............
We will have Hendo. We need Keita. Will it be Milner, or Fabinho, or Shaqiri for the goal? For the first time we can do what the f*ck we want with our setup in midfield, with the 3 hooligans up top.

I dunno ............. our midfield has more often than not been the reason the 3 hooligans haven't been 3 hooligans this season, IMO.

facehugger99 · 11-12-2018 10:54AM

Will be interesting if Liverpool get a first half goal as to what tactics Klopp adopts.

We finally have a solid defense that could potentially close out the match.

8-10 · 11-12-2018 10:56AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

The wider debate around the Sterling incident had me thinking over the last couple of days.

I've brought both my young kids to a couple of Liverpool matches over the last few years. Once was in the dedicated family section and once was in the Anfield Road stand.

I've gone a good few times on my own too. Never witnessed any behaviour I thought was unacceptable. Obviously there was some fruity language in the air but noting you wouldn't hear in a gym changing room.

I don't doubt there are some Liverpool fans that are racist morons - every club no doubt harbours a few Neanderthals, but I've never witnessed it personally.

I've heard people say they would never bring their kids to a football match because of the hate and vitriol on display - what do others feel? - is it an issue at Anfield?

I was at the Man City game last season, the CL quarter final and there was a guy in the row behind me who kept inserting the line "and Raheem Sterling's gay" into the last chorus line of Allez Allez Allez

Wouldn't say it's racist or anything and I'd agree with you in general you don't hear much at games ordinarily but the childishness of this grown man with his schoolyard insult really irked me at the time that I did turn around and said lightheartedly (as I thought that would have the best chance of success) "here no need for that" or something to that effect.

It was a bit of a different one in that situation anyway as it was clear all the stick Sterling was getting was because he's an ex-player who left for money rather than racism. I didn't hear or see anything racist at that game, just that neanderthal who thinks homophobic slurs are appropriate to shout at other grown men.

dogbert27 · 11-12-2018 11:12AM

Ardent wrote: »

Gonna be a tough mother****ing game tonight. Napoli will park the bus. Have to start Keita IMO.

A midfield 3 of Fab, Keita and one of either Milner or Gini. Would love see Shaqiri start in midfield but that's probably leaving us too open to the counter.

I don't know is Ancelloti a park the bus kind of manager. For them the best form of defence is attack.
Parking the bus means we have to be lucky with one shot. If they score first we have to score 3 and they have control of the game.

8-10 · 11-12-2018 11:16AM

dogbert27 wrote: »

I don't know is Ancelloti a park the bus kind of manager. For them the best form of defence is attack.
Parking the bus means we have to be lucky with one shot. If they score first we have to score 3 and they have control of the game.

I don't expect them to be any more defensive than the game in Napoli was. They just have to do the same thing they did then. Will be tough game for both sides though.

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