Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2018

Utopia Parkway · 04-12-2018 10:44PM

Reaching the stage with City where I think a lot of sides are content to take the L against them and move onto the next more winnable game. How long until teams start resting players against them?

dogbert27 · 04-12-2018 10:44PM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Don’t think too many would’ve expected it, more of an outside possibility. I wouldn’t be expecting them to drop points at the weekend either.

I think the annoying thing from our position is how many teams are beaten before they even step onto the pitch. Watford were well up for it against us but tonight just want to take their beating and get onto the next game.

It's like watching teams play United in the late 90's all over again.

Sofa Spud · 04-12-2018 10:45PM

watford got one back - 5mins+ to make our day

Turtyturd · 04-12-2018 10:48PM

dogbert27 wrote: »

It's like watching teams play United in the late 90's all over again.

Funnily enough they’re now one of the poorer teams who’ll roll over for them but show up for their cup final against us.

magma69 · 04-12-2018 10:51PM

dogbert27 wrote: »

Stop ruining his hyperbole you ruiner you!!

Firstly, it's an opinion, not hyperbole. I can't see Liverpool KEEP the pace. The season doesn't end now. And if it did, we still wouldn't have beaten City to the league so no, we literally haven't kept the pace with them as we were behind them going into this round of fixtures. But that's neither here nor there, I'm not going to be pedantic.

My point is that I don't think Liverpool are good enough to sustain the form City will for an entire season. It's not a remotely controversial opinion and wouldn't be met with any kind of hostility if it had be posted anywhere other than this thread.

noodler · 04-12-2018 10:53PM

I'd say it's hard motivation against Burnley tomorrow seeing City eek through like that.

Utopia Parkway · 04-12-2018 10:54PM

Watford had a go in the end albeit very late on. Might have been different had Deeney taken his chance in the first half. Ah well.

Agent Coulson · 04-12-2018 10:54PM

I'll take a one nil win tomorrow with a 94th minute winner.

murpho999 · 04-12-2018 11:14PM

2nd league game in a row that City have conceded and Deeny had a chance.

Decline has started. Still Liverpool's league to lose.:P

Potential Underachiever · 04-12-2018 11:41PM

The only hyperbole I'm seeing is people thinking that teams are just gonna roll over and let City beat them or that teams will start resting players against them , it's like the whole world is against the mighty Liverpool. They are winning their games with pure quality nothing more nothing less. Any talk of teams raising their game to face Liverpool and not trying against them is just delusional paranoia imo.

ERG89 · 04-12-2018 11:47PM

Teams don't roll over against City but they definetly have a fear factor over other teams. They are the first team in England to have that in quite a while.
All we can keep doing is picking up results.

gafferino · 05-12-2018 12:03AM

City away to Chelsea on Saturday evening will be a big test for them. Can see a draw or even a Chelsea win with the crowd behind them in an evening kickoff.

dogbert27 · 05-12-2018 12:23AM

magma69 wrote: »

Firstly, it's an opinion, not hyperbole. I can't see Liverpool KEEP the pace. The season doesn't end now. And if it did, we still wouldn't have beaten City to the league so no, we literally haven't kept the pace with them as we were behind them going into this round of fixtures. But that's neither here nor there, I'm not going to be pedantic.

My point is that I don't think Liverpool are good enough to sustain the form City will for an entire season. It's not a remotely controversial opinion and wouldn't be met with any kind of hostility if it had be posted anywhere other than this thread.

By two points. :rolleyes:

It seems to be the general consensus that City are an unstoppable machine that are playing unbelievable football and will only get better as the season progresses.

It also seems to be that Liverpool have been getting lucky results due to poor performances and seem to not be deserving of being 2 points behind city.

The Liverpool midfield and strikers aren't clicking so far this season compared to last but have the skill levels to improve on current performances, i.e. they have capacity to improve in the second half of the season.

Liverpool have the best defensive record in the league. That's not by luck or accident.

fyfe79 · 05-12-2018 12:25AM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

The only hyperbole I'm seeing is people thinking that teams are just gonna roll over and let City beat them or that teams will start resting players against them , it's like the whole world is against the mighty Liverpool. They are winning their games with pure quality nothing more nothing less. Any talk of teams raising their game to face Liverpool and not trying against them is just delusional paranoia imo.

Agreed. Slagging off other teams playing City is a little short-sighted when you consider City should have beaten us at Anfield a few weeks ago - only a botched penalty spurning 3 points for them. Did Liverpool roll over?? Of course not.

dogbert27 · 05-12-2018 12:27AM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

The only hyperbole I'm seeing is people thinking that teams are just gonna roll over and let City beat them or that teams will start resting players against them , it's like the whole world is against the mighty Liverpool. They are winning their games with pure quality nothing more nothing less. Any talk of teams raising their game to face Liverpool and not trying against them is just delusional paranoia imo.

when a sign says, ‘Do Not Feed the Bears’, man, you’d better not feed the bears.

Why oh why did I have to use the word hyperbole!! :pac::pac:

dogbert27 · 05-12-2018 12:40AM

fyfe79 wrote: »

Agreed. Slagging off other teams playing City is a little short-sighted when you consider City should have beaten us at Anfield a few weeks ago - only a botched penalty spurning 3 points for them. Did Liverpool roll over?? Of course not.

Liverpool didn't roll over but City changed their normal game plan when they came to Anfield.

They had 1 attempt at goal in the first which was a cross/shot that was blocked.
If not for that they would not have had a shot at goal registered in the first half of a game since 2010.

Their first shot on target was in the 62nd minute.

If they had a legitimate goal wrongfully ruled out I would say that they should have beaten us but they missed a penalty.

A draw was a fair result in that game and Guardiola came determined not to lose more than coming to win.

sabat · 05-12-2018 12:49AM

City can be got at-Man Utd and Liverpool (several times) last season and many European teams have shown this. On paper a Stones/Otomendi/Kompany combo is nowhere near as good as their goals conceded total would suggest but the problem is that the opposition is too often busy fighting fires at the other end to take a gung-ho approach.

HandsomeBob · 05-12-2018 08:02AM

City's time to drop points will come....the challenge is making sure we're still within distance when they do.

The next month presents as a ridiculous challenge. I hope Klopp just takes each game as it comes and limits rotation to 2/3 max changes per game, even tonight. We don't have the luxury of trying to be clever and say we can rest such and such for one game because we have these two games coming up afterwards. Klopp unfortunately needs to get the maximum out of what he has and I've a feeling this why he has them playing more subjued.

ThunbergsAreGo · 05-12-2018 09:11AM

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

The only hyperbole I'm seeing is people thinking that teams are just gonna roll over and let City beat them or that teams will start resting players against them , it's like the whole world is against the mighty Liverpool. They are winning their games with pure quality nothing more nothing less. Any talk of teams raising their game to face Liverpool and not trying against them is just delusional paranoia imo.

Bought with lots and lots of oil money while ignoring ffp.

Think this might be the season full in city hatred is born

gimli2112 · 05-12-2018 09:19AM

naughtb4 wrote: »

Bought with lots and lots of oil money while ignoring ffp.

Think this might be the season full in city hatred is born

They've hated us for years apparently, may as well get on board. It's so difficult as a Liverpool fan having all these nemeses.

murpho999 · 05-12-2018 09:56AM

magma69 wrote: »

Firstly, it's an opinion, not hyperbole. I can't see Liverpool KEEP the pace. The season doesn't end now. And if it did, we still wouldn't have beaten City to the league so no, we literally haven't kept the pace with them as we were behind them going into this round of fixtures. But that's neither here nor there, I'm not going to be pedantic.

My point is that I don't think Liverpool are good enough to sustain the form City will for an entire season. It's not a remotely controversial opinion and wouldn't be met with any kind of hostility if it had be posted anywhere other than this thread.

How can you say what City's form will be all season? They may get injuries, they may lose form. They may focus on Champion's League.

City have 23 games to go so I wouldn't hand them the title yet despite making them strong favourites.

No need to criticise Liverpool or say they're not good enough. City's form so far would equate to 103 points at the end of the season which is ridiculous and probably not achievable whilst Liverpool's works out at 97 which would be our best ever in the premier league and would normally win the league comfortably.

So I don't see how we can do much more than what we're doing and just make sure we're there if City do falter. Imagine what would happen if Liverpool started playing well as they have played so badly in winning their 36 out of 42 pointsl.

54and56 · 05-12-2018 10:07AM

murpho999 wrote: »

How can you say what City's form will be all season? They may get injuries, they may lose form. They may focus on Champion's League.

City have 23 games to go so I wouldn't hand them the title yet despite making them strong favourites.

No need to criticise Liverpool or say they're not good enough. City's form so far would equate to 103 points at the end of the season which is ridiculous and probably not achievable whilst Liverpool's works out at 97 which would be our best ever in the premier league and would normally win the league comfortably.

So I don't see how we can do much more than what we're doing and just make sure we're there if City do falter. Imagine what would happen if Liverpool started playing well as they have played so badly in winning their 36 out of 42 pointsl.

This.

The PL is a marathon and it's very hard to win a marathon wire to wire. The important thing for us is to make sure we're on their shoulder down the home straight and in position to take advantage of any slip up they make and odds are they will have one or two unexpected results at some stage.

Bit like this lad ack in the day :P

SlickRic · 05-12-2018 11:19AM

there is definitely something in the notion that many teams just take the L against City, but they do for us too.

Southampton this season was a prime example. i scarcely remember a more pathetic performance.

For 12 teams in the League, it's about survival. the financial incentive is too great for most teams to even care about anything other than staying in the Premier League - so much so that teams are happy just to not be battered by City in particular. Commentators say it in commentary all the time - "they'll be delighted that they put up a solid performance and didn't get humiliated".

that's what it's come to. The Premier League is getting to the stage where it's Super League in all but name only. half the teams just take the L and move on to the next game. i doubt they even care.

05-12-2018 11:21AM

murpho999 wrote: »

......... City's form so far would equate to 103 points at the end of the season which is ridiculous and probably not achievable whilst Liverpool's works out at 97 which would be our best ever in the premier league and would normally win the league comfortably..............

I reckon we are less likely to hit 97 points then City are to hit 103.

murpho999 · 05-12-2018 11:26AM

Augeo wrote: »

I reckon we are less likely to hit 97 points then City are to hit 103.

Of course we won't hit 97 and I don't think City will get to 103.

The point is that we can't ask for much more results wise than we have now and just need to keep doing the best we can to stay close to City and take advantage of any lapses in form that may come.

HandsomeBob · 05-12-2018 11:40AM

SlickRic wrote: »

there is definitely something in the notion that many teams just take the L against City, but they do for us too.

Southampton this season was a prime example. i scarcely remember a more pathetic performance.

For 12 teams in the League, it's about survival. the financial incentive is too great for most teams to even care about anything other than staying in the Premier League - so much so that teams are happy just to not be battered by City in particular. Commentators say it in commentary all the time - "they'll be delighted that they put up a solid performance and didn't get humiliated".

that's what it's come to. The Premier League is getting to the stage where it's Super League in all but name only. half the teams just take the L and move on to the next game. i doubt they even care.

Certainly a fear factor there with most teams against City. Was the same with United under Ferguson where some managers just rolled over and purred while Fergie rubbed their belly. Villa and Tottenham are two teams in particular committing Horrendous bottle jobs.

I think that's just the way things go when you're at the top and so far away from your nearest rivals. I do hope however as the season pans out and teams begin to realise where they're at in terms of honours / relegation that more teams will come out and have a go at City.

citytillidie · 05-12-2018 12:02PM

Liverpool win next two games and they go top again for a few hours

rob316 · 05-12-2018 12:21PM

Just keep in touch with them by no more than 3 points that will keep the pressure on them.

By the end of game week 15 last season, United were already 8 points off them, win today and we'll be only 2.

By the start of January that gap had stretched to 15 points, the league was over then, we can not loose ground to city before we play them at away on the 3rd Jan. If we were to be 5 or 6 points off them by then and they beat us, game over.

murpho999 · 05-12-2018 12:25PM

rob316 wrote: »

Just keep in touch with them by no more than 3 points that will keep the pressure on them.

By the end of game week 15 last season, United were already 8 points off them, win tomorrow and we'll be only 2.

By the start of January that gap had stretched to 15 points, the league was over then, we can not loose ground to city before we play them at away on the 3rd Jan. If we were to be 5 or 6 points off them by then and they beat us, game over.

Just to let you know we're playing tonight so you don't miss the match.

magma69 · 05-12-2018 12:29PM

murpho999 wrote: »

How can you say what City's form will be all season? They may get injuries, they may lose form. They may focus on Champion's League.

It's an opinion. I don't think they will drop many points this season. After Chelsea they'll have played all their rivals away from home already. They're on the back of a record breaking points tally and have sustained that form into this season. That's what I'm basing my opinion on.

City have 23 games to go so I wouldn't hand them the title yet despite making them strong favourites.

Anything can happen in football but I consider them strong favourites too. This comment is basically agreeing with me.

No need to criticise Liverpool or say they're not good enough. City's form so far would equate to 103 points at the end of the season which is ridiculous and probably not achievable whilst Liverpool's works out at 97 which would be our best ever in the premier league and would normally win the league comfortably.

I didn't criticise Liverpool. You're being hypersensitive (as are a few others here). I said they're not quite good enough to beat a team I consider the greatest team of the Premier League era to the league. 103 points would be 3 points more than their haul last year. 97 would be 22 points more than Liverpool's finish last year. Also, I said this Liverpool team would be good enough to win the league in past seasons.

So I don't see how we can do much more than what we're doing and just make sure we're there if City do falter. Imagine what would happen if Liverpool started playing well as they have played so badly in winning their 36 out of 42 pointsl.

We're doing fantastically. I've not been remotely critical of Liverpool. I expect things will click and we'll start winning games by wider scores but I also expect we'll have a few bad results along the way, a few more bad results than I expect City to make.

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