Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 Part Two

bangkok wrote: »

'Klopp charged over derby celebrations'

http://www.skysports.com/share/11570823

beno619 wrote: »

Why do you keep bringing up McTominay ? Rojo was the only other fit centre half which you're well aware of.

Paul Pogba complained to Josourinho that his tactics restrict the movement of the side during an exchange with the Manchester United manager after their 2-2 draw with Southampton on Saturday.
Mourinho claimed in an interview with RedeTV, the Brazilian broadcaster, that it would be “almost a miracle” if United finished in the top four this season thanks to their woeful start. They are eight points adrift of the Champions League places after the draw on the south coast.
More details have emerged of what happened in the away dressing room on Saturday night. It is understood that Mourinho criticised Pogba, the France midfielder, in front of his team-mates, telling the £89 million signing that he was disrespecting the United shirt by playing so poorly and giving the ball away so often.
Pogba is thought to have responded to Mourinho by complaining that he had no one to pass to because his manager’s tactics do not allow players to move around freely in front of him. The midfielder’s riposte is said to have been delivered in a calm manner and the exchange did not get heated, according to sources.
The 25-year-old was not the only one to receive a dressing-down after the draw, which leaves United in seventh place, 16 points shy of Manchester City, the league leaders. Mourinho is also understood to have castigated other players in the dressing room.
After the game at St Mary’s, Mourinho opened up about the frustration he feels at his team being so far off the pace. When asked what his aspirations were for the season, he said: “Try to win as many points as possible and try what would be almost a miracle to finish fourth.”
To emphasise his point, he claimed that finishing runners-up to City last season, even with a 19-point deficit, should be regarded as a success because his squad lack the quality of their rivals.
“Finishing second was a fantastic thing because of the qualities we had in comparison to the quality of the other teams that are fighting for the top four,” he said. “And this year with more problems that we have had, it proves what I said at the beginning of the season, that it would be a very difficult season.”
It is believed that the atmosphere within the United dressing room has soured over the past couple of weeks. Mourinho’s claim, in an interview with Hristo Stoichkov, that Luke Shaw, Marcus Rashford, Jesse Lingard and Anthony Martial lack “character” and “personality” went down badly with the squad, mainly because the four players that the Portuguese called out have played well this season.
Some United players are bemused by Mourinho’s treatment of Fred. United paid £52 million to sign the Brazil midfielder from Shakhtar Donetsk last summer, but he has started only six of the 14 league matches United have played this season. It puzzles some players that the fourth-most expensive signing in the club’s history has spent most of his time on the bench.
Mourinho wanted to sign a centre back in the summer but Ed Woodward, the club’s executive vice-chairman, vetoed the idea.
Mourinho complained during his interview with RedeTV that he was forced to play Nemanja Matic and Scott McTominay, two midfielders, at centre back because of injuries to Eric Bailly, Chris Smalling and Victor Lindelof, who is undergoing the first stage of his rehabilitation for a thigh injury with a United physio in Dubai.
Mourinho claimed that even though McTominay and Matic did not know how to operate in defence, he had no option but to play them out of position. His argument was undermined, however, by him naming Marcos Rojo, the Argentina centre back, on the bench.
“In the absence of more central defenders to play, we had to occupy that area with players who are midfielders, who do not know how to play in defence, but who occupied that area in a zonal way, tried to hide the weaknesses that everyone knew we had,” Mourinho said.
If United lose at home to Arsenal tomorrow and other results go against them, they could drop as low as tenth.
Mourinho will be without Ashley Young, the full back, for the Arsenal game owing to suspension. Shaw, the United left back, may miss out because of an injury he suffered in the second half of Saturday’s draw against his former club.

Drumpot wrote: »

I never said I approved of the manner in which Jose trys to motivate or manage players. You are welcome to go through my posts to find me saying that. You guys seem to confuse not presuming the worst on everything on Jose as absolving him of responsibility for his actions. You know what goes on behind closed doors no more then I do, the difference is how we interpret what little information we get.

I have no problem with Pogba talking these things over with the manager either, but thats not what happened is it ? Pogba was whinging in interviews for a month complaining after every game ? How is that progressive or calm ? He looked for a public spat with the manager and when Jose finally responded (he shouldn't have) some people ignored what Pogba had been doing and jumped to "aha, see Jose is a bad manager".

In terms of character, Jose is correct. The amount of times people agree wit what Jose says and then turn it against him in a "you cant say that" is quite remarkable. Feeds into the weak snowflake feel of this squad.

A lot of the united squad has shown a lack of character long before Jose joined so why are people upset with Jose shaking things up?. I don't agree in him making it public but that's what he has always done and its worked for him so what the f**k do I or anybody hear know?. People constantly focusing on it and saying we don't like it doesn't make him a bad manager , its just means we don't approve of his techniques.

Jose doesn't make it easy for players, hes a hard manager to work for but if players respond they come out better for it. That's why Hazzard said hes the best coach and why Deshamps said to to Pogba that Jose will make him a better player . .

As unpopular as this is, I would be happy to see the back of Pogba in January. Sends a massive signal to the squad that any challenge to a manager wont be tolerated. Whether we get a new manager or not, hes a player who wont perform when, to use his own words, hes not happy. He has not been good enough for united on or off field to have the authority to challenge the manager.