The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

carsfan2 · 30-11-2018 03:01PM

I bought a manual gti PP in 2015 after years of autos. I had this idea I would get back to really driving a car and it would be more involving and fun,
Reality was, I was sorry after a couple of months. Day in day out an auto is nicer to live with. It’s also quicker and you get nicer exhaust rasps on gear changes.
I would go dsg every time.

drunkmonkey · 30-11-2018 03:06PM

Head, shoulders, heel and toe, heel and toe.

30-11-2018 03:44PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They say the mk 8 will have fuel saving technology and autonomous driving. If your looking at a 2019 GTi performance those upgrades are about as useful as a gold fish bowl under the drivers seat.

I’d have no issue buying the current model with a new one coming but that being said I’d disagree with the above.

The reality is we spend most of the time commuting or just driving around normally in the car and having things like dsg, Acc (or the potential autonomous driving) and something that saves fuel for the mundane commute to work then I think that’s an excellent addition.

I’ve a manual mk5 Gti for many years now and always said I’d never want dsg but (having not even driven one, auto cars yes but not a dsg) my next car* will be dsg without doubt, chances are it won’t be a gti either but will likely be a vag group car so will go for dsg. If it was a gti/gtd or R I wouldn’t go for anything but dsg either, having a bit of a dodgy back is another reason also.

*Next purchase but I’ve more or less decided to just keep the mk5 Gti for good too.

drunkmonkey · 30-11-2018 06:26PM

It's all going to boil down to the Co2 figures, if the DSG drops vrt and tax bands I'll probably go that route but if it remains 3k more than the manual I'll be going manual.
Hate traffic avoid it all costs, served my time slogging the M50, never again.

carsfan2 · 30-11-2018 07:38PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's all going to boil down to the Co2 figures, if the DSG drops vrt and tax bands I'll probably go that route but if it remains 3k more than the manual I'll be going manual.
Hate traffic avoid it all costs, served my time slogging the M50, never again.

If you buy on pcp does the dsg not hold a good bit of its value thus reducing the price difference?

DaveyDave · 30-11-2018 07:50PM

Just to note the CO2 on the GTI:

Manual - NEDC: 153g, WLTP: 168g
DSG - NEDC: 140g, WLTP: 165g

I'll be interested in seeing pricing next year.

SaintsYB · 30-11-2018 07:56PM

carsfan2 wrote: »

If you buy on pcp does the dsg not hold a good bit of its value thus reducing the price difference?

I thought come GMFV time, it doesn't matter whether you went for a manual, DSG or options for that matter?

drunkmonkey · 01-12-2018 02:18PM

DaveyDave wrote: »

Just to note the CO2 on the GTI:

Manual - NEDC: 153g, WLTP: 168g
DSG - NEDC: 140g, WLTP: 165g

I'll be interested in seeing pricing next year.

Are they right, isn't the current GTi dsg performance 144g and the manual 150.

Those rates above jump them both into the €570 tax bracket and would also mean a 4% Vrt hike on both.
VW said if I order now they'll hold the price I pay. Hard to know what to do but if there right the manual is still the one to go for.

bazz26 · 01-12-2018 02:39PM

WLTP has been a right headache for VAG, their figures are all over the place at the moment. If you can get a guaranteed price from a dealer/VW then that's what I'd work off.

DaveyDave · 02-12-2018 03:24AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

DaveyDave wrote: »

Just to note the CO2 on the GTI:

Manual - NEDC: 153g, WLTP: 168g
DSG - NEDC: 140g, WLTP: 165g

I'll be interested in seeing pricing next year.

Are they right, isn't the current GTi dsg performance 144g and the manual 150.

Those rates above jump them both into the €570 tax bracket and would also mean a 4% Vrt hike on both.
VW said if I order now they'll hold the price I pay. Hard to know what to do but if there right the manual is still the one to go for.

These are for the 245hp GTI Performance from the German site. Keep in mind they have the OPF engines so emissions may be slightly lower than ours without the petrol particle filter.

Keep in mind VW make changes on the sly, the CO2 on the 1 litre engine has changed twice in the last year.

DaveyDave · 02-12-2018 11:50PM

My poor heart...

SaintsYB · 03-12-2018 12:06AM

The simultaneous heartbreak and anger with yourself when you curb an alloy is too great.

dar83 · 03-12-2018 12:44PM

At least that looks pretty minor and you also have the bonus of it not being diamond cut finish!

(On the plus side... now you have an excuse to go wheel shopping and convert those to winters :pac: )

drunkmonkey · 03-12-2018 01:30PM

I'm thinking of going the Seville alloys think they might be easier keep than the diamond cut. There not on the options list here though..

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JoeA3 · 03-12-2018 01:54PM

You'll probably need to dig around on Google and see if you can find the option code for them. Try VW Italy or VW France... you might need to do a bit of google translating. Then if you do find the code, give it to the dealer and ask them to ask VW Irl to spec them.

Not sure they'd be easier keep though. Black wheels. Will show every little mark.

kooga · 03-12-2018 02:39PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I'm thinking of going the Seville alloys think they might be easier keep than the diamond cut. There not on the options list here though..

Sevilla option code PJH 225/40/18 they are an €820 option on the GTI in France in lieu of 17 inch alloys

Neilw · 03-12-2018 04:47PM

kooga wrote: »

Sevilla option code PJH 225/40/18 they are an €820 option on the GTI in France in lieu of 17 inch alloys

If the car comes with 18's already there might not be much cost to change.

DaveyDave · 03-12-2018 04:55PM

Neilw wrote: »

kooga wrote: »

Sevilla option code PJH 225/40/18 they are an €820 option on the GTI in France in lieu of 17 inch alloys

If the car comes with 18's already there might not be much cost to change.

Probably won't be as cheap as getting Prets but hopefully won't be €800-900.

SaintsYB · 03-12-2018 05:03PM

Going from 18" to 19" on the GTI and GTD is about €770, so if you're sticking with the same size, I can't imagine it being more than €400.

dar83 · 03-12-2018 05:15PM

They look fun to clean. :eek:

JoeA3 · 03-12-2018 06:03PM

SaintsYB wrote: »

Going from 18" to 19" on the GTI and GTD is about €770, so if you're sticking with the same size, I can't imagine it being more than €400.

19" Cadiz to 19" Prets on the R is only €130 or something... Whereas in the UK, the Prets cost around a grand, as the standard Cadiz are only 18's there!

SaintsYB · 03-12-2018 06:25PM

JoeA3 wrote: »

19" Cadiz to 19" Prets on the R is only €130 or something... Whereas in the UK, the Prets cost around a grand, as the standard Cadiz are only 18's there!

Yeah, the UK is getting shafted on that alright

easyvision · 04-12-2018 09:19AM

I have a 2015 Golf GTD, I know I need at least 2 new tyres but possibly 4 depending on wear since last service. Any advice on good tyres that will hopefully last a bit longer? Dont mind spend 'decent' money. Any recommendations??

hooch-85 · 04-12-2018 06:45PM

easyvision wrote: »

I have a 2015 Golf GTD, I know I need at least 2 new tyres but possibly 4 depending on wear since last service. Any advice on good tyres that will hopefully last a bit longer? Dont mind spend 'decent' money. Any recommendations??

Depends what you are looking for but in general you normally have to compromise on longevity if you want the best grip.

At the minute Michelin PS4 are highly recommended, I haven't tried them but the reports are excellent. They would be one of the more expensive tyres to buy but you get what you pay for as the saying goes.

Goodyear Eagle F1 AS3, are very good too and should be a bit cheaper, great grip in wet and dry weather, and I managed to get 30k out of a set on the front of my old car.

Mid range - i can recommend Hankook Ventus Evo 2, found these as good as the Goodyears in almost every department except wet grip.

Kumho KU39 are not bad too either.

I've a 151 GTD myself and it came with new Toyo Proxes Sports, they are okay as well but i'd categorise them as mid range, i'll probably replace them with the Michelin's or Goodyears when the time comes, they seem to be wearing quite well in the 10k i've had the car.

easyvision · 04-12-2018 06:55PM

Cheers thanks for the post! I may price different ones so! Thinking of going to advanced pitstop, or is there somewhere better/cheaper to quote and fit?

hooch-85 · 04-12-2018 08:04PM

Where are you based?

Rattlehead_ie · 04-12-2018 08:34PM

easyvision wrote: »

Cheers thanks for the post! I may price different ones so! Thinking of going to advanced pitstop, or is there somewhere better/cheaper to quote and fit?

While not a VW, I have a Focus-ST Diesel. Put the GY AS3 on and cant complain grip as mentioned in dry and wet are great, not as good as the PS4 but there is a price difference and very lil performance difference. I ended up finding them cheap and getting them sent to me, got them fitted elsewhere

easyvision · 04-12-2018 08:40PM

Based in South Dublin, work north Dublin so fairly easy where to go!

shanec1928 · 04-12-2018 09:08PM

easyvision wrote: »

Based in South Dublin, work north Dublin so fairly easy where to go!

Discount tyres in blanch! They may still have a deal on vouchers for the Mitchlens

hooch-85 · 04-12-2018 09:14PM

shanec1928 wrote: »

Discount tyres in blanch! They may still have a deal on vouchers for the Mitchlens

I was going to recommend Discount Tyres too seen as the OP was based in Dublin.

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