Clare GAA discussion thread

windy shepard henderson · 19-11-2018 12:16AM

Dickie9 wrote: »

Derrick lynch is a spoofer
#myownopinion!

yeah he likes his twitter page alright , think he is not a patch on nicholas rynne or jim conlon on RCB in terms of insight and information , all the clare tv youtube videos i place on here are done by rynne after games

to be fair to derrick he is not a bad commentator but the twitter stuff i wouldn't pay much attention to

Clareman · 19-11-2018 10:19AM

It's a joke that 1 player can hold up a competition and that a competition goes until the middle of November before it's finished.

ready4liftoff · 20-11-2018 05:51PM

Any word on whether the Clare senior footballers will take part in the pre-season McGrath Cup in 2019? Also confirmation via The Clare People, that former All-Ireland winning goalkeeper Declan O'Keeffe will replace James Hanrahan, as Clare senior football goalkeeper coach, for the upcoming season ahead.

A big week for Clare football ahead, with St Josephs Miltown in the Munster senior club final against hot favorites Dr. Crokes on Sunday in the Gaelic Grounds. Also this weekend, a crowd of over 1,000 people is expected for the Clare Oskars set to take place at Traceys West County Hotel. This is a fundraising drive by both the Clare senior football and ladies football teams, in order to raise much needed funds for both teams. Expect the unexpected, that's all I say for the event that will take place this Friday.

ready4liftoff · 21-11-2018 04:08PM

Very disappointing end to St Flannans College Harty Cup campaign as they were well beaten by Midleton CBS today in Hospital. The full time score was Midleton CBS 2-19 St Flannans College Ennis 1-10. Serious reviews into how to improve hurling standards in the Ennis school need to take place, or else a continued and gradual decline in the hurling fortunes of Flannans will continue to deepen. Is Brendan Bugler and Jamesie O'Connor still coaching and teaching in the school, does anyone know?

It is clear that football is doing very well in the school and are expected to challenge for Corn Ui Mhuiri honours this season. That is obviously very welcome. But a root and branch review must take place in Flannans, to ensure that hurling standards from U14 up need to improve. Or else the only alternative is for St Flannans to drop a level to the B grade, which the hierarchy there are extremely reticent to do.

Clareman · 21-11-2018 04:28PM

ready4liftoff wrote: »

Very disappointing end to St Flannans College Harty Cup campaign as they were well beaten by Midleton CBS today in Hospital. The full time score was Midleton CBS 2-19 St Flannans College Ennis 1-10. Serious reviews into how to improve hurling standards in the Ennis school need to take place, or else a continued and gradual decline in the hurling fortunes of Flannans will continue to deepen. Is Brendan Bugler and Jamesie O'Connor still coaching and teaching in the school, does anyone know?

It is clear that football is doing very well in the school and are expected to challenge for Corn Ui Mhuiri honours this season. That is obviously very welcome. But a root and branch review must take place in Flannans, to ensure that hurling standards from U14 up need to improve. Or else the only alternative is for St Flannans to drop a level to the B grade, which the hierarchy there are extremely reticent to do.

The lack of borders is affecting Flannan's massively, they have done nothing to look to work with neighbouring clubs to develop any kind of strategy, the complete arrogance regarding clubs around Ennis is still well in place. 1 or 2 people taking teams isn't going to turn Flannan's around, a complete review and strategy is needed to be put in place, engagement with neighbouring clubs and then they might start to feature again.

ready4liftoff · 21-11-2018 05:04PM

Clareman wrote: »

The lack of borders is affecting Flannan's massively, they have done nothing to look to work with neighbouring clubs to develop any kind of strategy, the complete arrogance regarding clubs around Ennis is still well in place. 1 or 2 people taking teams isn't going to turn Flannan's around, a complete review and strategy is needed to be put in place, engagement with neighbouring clubs and then they might start to feature again.

Well said Clareman. To be honest I thought around 18 months ago when Flannans got to the final of the U15 A hurling final where they were narrowly beaten by a point by the highly rated Thurles CBS side, that they turned a corner. But clearly these issues regarding the lack of boarders plus not putting a plan in place, with the likes of the Banner and Eire Og Inis in Clare's county town, to ensure to maintain high standards on the hurling side is hurting them big time.

Personally I don't see that changing anytime soon. You talk about arrogance Clareman re clubs. To me the biggest arrogance falls on the face of the school hierarchy thinking that the U19 team are good enough for the Harty Cup A grade. Dropping to the B grade in all hurling grades will benefit the school hugely in the short, medium and long term. If they continue this reticence regarding dropping down to B grade then I wish them no luck in the future.

The young lads that played today against Midleton CBS tried their very best. But whoever is responsible for the decline of Flannans hurling must put their egos aside and put the interests of the school first. Big decisions lie ahead, that's for sure.

On a separate note, it is very disappointing to see our Clare schools struggling in the respective schools hurling competitions. Also many of our best young hurlers play for Ard Scoil Ris. They are also out of the Harty Cup. So no Clare representation it appears on the playing side for the knockout stages of the Harty Cup.

I have been saying for a few years now, that standards in underage Clare hurling are falling. It is up to those who have control of improving standards to raise their games again. That means more from both administrators and coaches to make sure that the right people are over the respective development squads, that can harness the potential of the players involved in these squads. We are falling back, but whether the current executive of the county board and the likes of Coiste na nOg Iomaint are doing enough to address the slide is very debatable.

Clareman · 21-11-2018 05:18PM

ready4liftoff wrote: »

Well said Clareman. To be honest I thought around 18 months ago when Flannans got to the final of the U15 A hurling final where they were narrowly beaten by a point by the highly rated Thurles CBS side, that they turned a corner. But clearly these issues regarding the lack of boarders plus not putting a plan in place, with the likes of the Banner and Eire Og Inis in Clare's county town, to ensure to maintain high standards on the hurling side is hurting them big time.

Personally I don't see that changing anytime soon. You talk about arrogance Clareman re clubs. To me the biggest arrogance falls on the face of the school hierarchy thinking that the U19 team are good enough for the Harty Cup A grade. Dropping to the B grade in all hurling grades will benefit the school hugely in the short, medium and long term. If they continue this reticence regarding dropping down to B grade then I wish them no luck in the future.

The young lads that played today against Midleton CBS tried their very best. But whoever is responsible for the decline of Flannans hurling must put their egos aside and put the interests of the school first. Big decisions lie ahead, that's for sure.

On a separate note, it is very disappointing to see our Clare schools struggling in the respective schools hurling competitions. Also many of our best young hurlers play for Ard Scoil Ris. They are also out of the Harty Cup. So no Clare representation it appears on the playing side for the knockout stages of the Harty Cup.

I have been saying for a few years now, that standards in underage Clare hurling are falling. It is up to those who have control of improving standards to raise their games again. That means more from both administrators and coaches to make sure that the right people are over the respective development squads, that can harness the potential of the players involved in these squads. We are falling back, but whether the current executive of the county board and the likes of Coiste na nOg Iomaint are doing enough to address the slide is very debatable.

Flannan's are Harty royalty, they won't be dropping down anytime soon. Historically Flannan's were always stronger than the Clare minors, there used to be an argument that the Clare minors would never feature because there was more of a focus on getting up for the Harty than for the Munster championship but the Flannan's team was boosted by borders from outside of Clare.

Eire Og have won the under 14 and seem to be doing great things with their academy so thatshould feed into Flannan's over the next few years but without proper linkage between clubs and schools there isn't going to be anything happening any time soon, Ard Scoil in Limerick did great work a few years back and worked with East Clare teams, that should go through.

If I was put in charge I would get rid of a lot of these stupid development squads and use the schools teams as feeder teams, the county board should have coaches going into every school to help coach teams but because of the politics this won't happen.

Figerty · 22-11-2018 12:12AM

Clareman wrote: »

Flannan's are Harty royalty, they won't be dropping down anytime soon. Historically Flannan's were always stronger than the Clare minors, there used to be an argument that the Clare minors would never feature because there was more of a focus on getting up for the Harty than for the Munster championship but the Flannan's team was boosted by borders from outside of Clare.

Eire Og have won the under 14 and seem to be doing great things with their academy so thatshould feed into Flannan's over the next few years but without proper linkage between clubs and schools there isn't going to be anything happening any time soon, Ard Scoil in Limerick did great work a few years back and worked with East Clare teams, that should go through.

If I was put in charge I would get rid of a lot of these stupid development squads and use the schools teams as feeder teams, the county board should have coaches going into every school to help coach teams but because of the politics this won't happen.

It's a long time since Flannans were Harty royalty. Brian Geary left Ard Scoil Ris to join Flannans years ago, he was probably the last to leave for hurling. Since the Borders numbers declined, the poaching of hurlers from others schools has ended. The Gantleys were another example. Even when Clare were doing well at minor grade Flannans were getting well beaten in the past few years.

Clareman · 22-11-2018 01:48PM

Figerty wrote: »

It's a long time since Flannans were Harty royalty. Brian Geary left Ard Scoil Ris to join Flannans years ago, he was probably the last to leave for hurling. Since the Borders numbers declined, the poaching of hurlers from others schools has ended. The Gantleys were another example. Even when Clare were doing well at minor grade Flannans were getting well beaten in the past few years.

Flannan's and the North Mon will always be considered Harty royalty.

Fellas used to come from far and wide to Flannan's, Davy used to get the bus from the Bridge to Flannan's every day. Fellas used to repeat their leaving just to play Harty as well, I remember Martin Daly repeated his leaving in 91 and once the All Ireland was over he never came back again.

BnB · 23-11-2018 12:05PM

Clareman wrote: »

...Fellas used to repeat their leaving just to play Harty as well....

That's not necessarily something I think the school should be proud of.....

Clareman · 23-11-2018 12:16PM

BnB wrote: »

That's not necessarily something I think the school should be proud of.....

Nope but it was done

finbarrk · 23-11-2018 05:50PM

Anyone else on here going to the Oskars thing tonight? Looking forward to it now.

ready4liftoff · 25-11-2018 04:00PM

Result: Munster Club Senior Football Final

Dr Crokes Killarney 1-21 St Joseph's Miltown 2-9

A brave but ultimately disappointing end to St Joseph's Miltown Munster campaign, as they lose by 9 points to an outstanding Dr Crokes team. The Killarney men now go on to the All-Ireland series. As for the West Clare men, a great campaign, culminating in their second Jack Daly title in 3 years. Hard luck lads. They have done their club, parish, families and their fans exceptionally proud in 2018.

Dickie9 · 25-11-2018 08:25PM

It's time Darragh Mc Donagh is called up to Clare Seniors

Clareman · 25-11-2018 09:20PM

Clareman wrote: »

They could run up a big score again but 10 points is a massive amount this time of year, bookies don't often make mistakes but I think that could be 1.

They just beat the spread

windy shepard henderson · 25-11-2018 11:36PM

Dickie9 wrote: »

It's time Darragh Mc Donagh is called up to Clare Seniors

i imagine he will , he was there a few years ago before he got injured , had a good year in fairness

Dickie9 · 26-11-2018 12:17AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i imagine he will , he was there a few years ago before he got injured , had a good year in fairness

He's still a young lad I now he's been troubled by serious injuries still a massive talent

windy shepard henderson · 26-11-2018 12:25AM

ready4liftoff wrote: »

Result: Munster Club Senior Football Final

Dr Crokes Killarney 1-21 St Joseph's Miltown 2-9

A brave but ultimately disappointing end to St Joseph's Miltown Munster campaign, as they lose by 9 points to an outstanding Dr Crokes team. The Killarney men now go on to the All-Ireland series. As for the West Clare men, a great campaign, culminating in their second Jack Daly title in 3 years. Hard luck lads. They have done their club, parish, families and their fans exceptionally proud in 2018.

cant fault miltown , best team in the county all year , excellent win in the semi final against the nire but one thing annoyed me today that i would like to see clare sides ditch against better opposition

i have no problem with the bad start , its when miltown had there period of dominance they brought the game back to 1-09 to 1-04 , miltown missed 2 or 3 scoring opportunities directly after that and crokes tagged on another score before half time , within 5 minutes of the second half crokes kicked 3 more and it was game over really

i know miltown played well enough today but the game would have changed completely had the scoreline been say 1-09 to 1-06 at half time it would have been game on ,
like miltown portlaoise kicked 11 scores today and missed a late penalty to level there game against the dublin champions and gave them a real scare

this is the one area where clare football needs to improve next year so we can at the very least offer a serious challenge to any team club or county , that bit more efficient and to strike while the iron is hot is all that's needed

the one pleasing aspect from miltown as the game petered out was they kept playing , stuck to the game plan didn't get cynical and looked for scores , crokes are a serious outfit and have hammered most teams this year they met but its just a pity it wasnt closer at the break , it would have asked serious questions of crokes in the second half

windy shepard henderson · 26-11-2018 12:28AM

Dickie9 wrote: »

He's still a young lad I now he's been troubled by serious injuries still a massive talent

collins had him on the panel after the last county final win a few years ago ao i expect him to be back on the panel next year

Dickie9 · 26-11-2018 12:38AM

Suprised with Kevin Keavey been taking off at half time seems to get thru a fair shift and always seems to be the first to be taking off

Reminds me off Peter Duggan wen things not going well

He's d scapegoat

windy shepard henderson · 26-11-2018 12:43AM

Dickie9 wrote: »

Suprised with Kevin Keavey been taking off at half time seems to get thru a fair shift and always seems to be the first to be taking off

Reminds me off Peter Duggan wen things not going well

He's d scapegoat

not sure what age he is but he has a fair bit of milage on the clock he seems to be around with years , there is a lot of good young lads on the miltown bench too, but today the crokes half forward line was serious in the first half

Dickie9 · 26-11-2018 12:46AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

not sure what age he is but he has a fair bit of milage on the clock he seems to be around with years , there is a lot of good young lads on the miltown bench too, but today the crokes half forward line was serious in the first half

Keavey is at least 32/33 seems to give his all the time goes thru massive amount I'd be leaving him on till least 45/50 mind

As for Graham Kelly it's just a pity about his temperament a serious footballer in his day it's just that always let him down

Dickie9 · 26-11-2018 12:49AM

I no we've some serious forwards In the county coming thru. ...

Noel Downes and Seanie o meara had it all in d day with the clubs it's a pity they never showed that dedication to the county esp Downes the lad had it all

ready4liftoff · 28-11-2018 04:23PM

Result Corn Ui Mhuiri Munster Post Primary Schools Senior A Football

St Flannans 6-12 High School Clonmel 1-8

A very impressive 19 point win for the Ennis School as they comfortably booked their place in the last 8 of the Corn Ui Mhuiri. As I said previously, they are genuine contenders for the championship. They play great football and a stat that is very interesting, is in their last 2 wins in their group, they have racked up 10 goals and 24 points. Most impressive stuff from Flannans so far.

ready4liftoff · 28-11-2018 05:27PM

ready4liftoff wrote: »

Result Corn Ui Mhuiri Munster Post Primary Schools Senior A Football

St Flannans 6-12 High School Clonmel 1-8

A very impressive 19 point win for the Ennis School as they comfortably booked their place in the last 8 of the Corn Ui Mhuiri. As I said previously, they are genuine contenders for the championship. They play great football and a stat that is very interesting, is in their last 2 wins in their group, they have racked up 10 goals and 24 points. Most impressive stuff from Flannans so far.

Match report below:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/st-flannans-seal-corn-ui-mhuiri-quarter-final-spot-with-six-goal-showing-888548.html

ready4liftoff · 29-11-2018 09:25PM

A North Clare amalgamation that consists of Kilfenora, Ballyvaughan and Michael Cusacks and a West Clare combo of O'Currys and Naomh Eoin, will compete in the 2019 Clare senior football championship. That's 14 teams that will take part in the race for Jack Daly. There will be a round robin format for the championship in 2019, with 2 groups of 4 and 2 groups of 3. The top 2 in each group will qualify for the 1/4 finals. All 4 semi-finalists of this year's Clare senior football championship will be seeded

Also in Clare football related news, Clare will open their 2019 McGrath Cup campaign against Waterford on the 6th of January in Fraher Field with a 1 pm throw-in. Limerick and Cork will play in the other semi-final.

In the Munster U20 Hurling news, Clare will play the winners of Limerick and Cork, in the semi-final of the championship.

windy shepard henderson · 29-11-2018 09:46PM

Yeah the hope for 16 teams was based on 2 sets of two teams in north clare joining together not all 4 together , and coolmeen and kildysart joining , that amalgamation looks to have run its course at underage level also , there has been a fall out since the intermeadite semi final.between both sides it seems

Its a shame kilkee did not join up with there neighbours they would have 2 or 3 really good young lads that could add to that squad , north clare should be a strong amalgamation though

ready4liftoff · 29-11-2018 09:49PM

Good to see that Derrick Lynch will be part of the Clare Champion newspaper sports team. The Champion's sports coverage throughout 2018 has been deplorable and hopefully Lynch can breath new life into the paper, which has let its high standards slip over the past 6 months or so.

Clareman · 29-11-2018 09:57PM

ready4liftoff wrote: »

Good to see that Derrick Lynch will be part of the Clare Champion newspaper sports team. The Champion's sports coverage throughout 2018 has been deplorable and hopefully Lynch can breath new life into the paper, which has let its high standards slip over the past 6 months or so.

The new Seamus Hayes I guess

Gael85 · 30-11-2018 11:09AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Yeah the hope for 16 teams was based on 2 sets of two teams in north clare joining together not all 4 together , and coolmeen and kildysart joining , that amalgamation looks to have run its course at underage level also , there has been a fall out since the intermeadite semi final.between both sides it seems

Its a shame kilkee did not join up with there neighbours they would have 2 or 3 really good young lads that could add to that squad , north clare should be a strong amalgamation though

What happened there? Shannon Gaels or Killimer could have joined that amalgamation too? Very surprised Kilkee not in that West Clare merger. How come Lisacannor not in with the North Clare amalgamation?

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